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Old Posted May 26, 2023, 4:40 AM
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357 N Green has received a height bump. We should probably now give this project it's own thread

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A proposed Business Planned Development, submitted by Onni 357 North Green LLC, for the property generally located at 357-359 North Green Street. The applicant proposes to combine and rezone two sites, a northern site, currently zoned M3-3 (Heavy Industry District) and a southern site, previously Subarea E of PD 643, to DX-7 (Downtown Mixed-Use District) underlying and then to a Business Planned Development. The applicant proposes to construct a 495’-tall office building with amenity space on the upper floors, ground floor commercial space, and open space plazas. A maximum of 329 parking spaces, and a minimum of 50 bicycle parking spaces are proposed. A 4.5 FAR (Floor Area Ratio) bonus will be taken and the overall FAR of the planned development will be 11.5.
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Old Posted May 26, 2023, 2:23 PM
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357 N Green has received a height bump. We should probably now give this project it's own thread


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Most defining project in the pipeline IMO. Will really shape FM from many views
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Old Posted May 26, 2023, 4:18 PM
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What's wrong with ceiling murals?
In the case of this one especially, it's looking like it's going to contain some inane platitude (like 'It's All Good!" or some other toxic-positivity mantra), and I imagine the intention of this one from the development team is to signal that the development is contemporary (and under the pretense that it's to "inspire" people or "enliven the space").

In general, the one's I've seen are almost always kitsch. A ceiling is not a proper medium for a piece of painted art, unless incorporated into the building in synthesis with the architecture, and even then, I'd rather have a beautiful structure that I can appreciate in and of itself rather than to have a prescribed--and usually contrived--visual experience of something.
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Old Posted May 26, 2023, 6:39 PM
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I doubt there would be text. Since it's on a ceiling, the text could be sideways or upside down depending on where you are standing (Randolph, Morgan, Carpenter). It'll probably just be an abstract composition like Brown's other recent work.
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Old Posted May 26, 2023, 6:48 PM
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In the case of this one especially, it's looking like it's going to contain some inane platitude (like 'It's All Good!" or some other toxic-positivity mantra), and I imagine the intention of this one from the development team is to signal that the development is contemporary (and under the pretense that it's to "inspire" people or "enliven the space").

In general, the one's I've seen are almost always kitsch. A ceiling is not a proper medium for a piece of painted art, unless incorporated into the building in synthesis with the architecture, and even then, I'd rather have a beautiful structure that I can appreciate in and of itself rather than to have a prescribed--and usually contrived--visual experience of something.
I for one say if they are going to use text, at least make fun of the typical text sayings. Maybe something like:
"Live
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Fart"
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In the case of this one especially, it's looking like it's going to contain some inane platitude (like 'It's All Good!" or some other toxic-positivity mantra), and I imagine the intention of this one from the development team is to signal that the development is contemporary (and under the pretense that it's to "inspire" people or "enliven the space").

In general, the one's I've seen are almost always kitsch. A ceiling is not a proper medium for a piece of painted art, unless incorporated into the building in synthesis with the architecture, and even then, I'd rather have a beautiful structure that I can appreciate in and of itself rather than to have a prescribed--and usually contrived--visual experience of something.
This reads a lot like "I don't like that kind of thing." As you noted, you haven't even seen the finished product and are reading all sorts of things into it. Get off my lawn. Well, it's not your lawn unless you live there.
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Old Posted May 26, 2023, 6:58 PM
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This reads a lot like "I don't like that kind of thing." As you noted, you haven't even seen the finished product and are reading all sorts of things into it. Get off my lawn. Well, it's not your lawn unless you live there.
I was directly asked "What's wrong with murals?" by you, and I answered you.
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I was directly asked "What's wrong with murals?" by you, and I answered you.
Specifically, you ranted about how a mural that isn't finished might include text you detest despite the said mural not having any text painted on it at all. So your answer revealed a lot about your personal taste more than anything else. My original question was generalized to ceiling murals. So if a ceiling mural is painted in an artistic style you like, would you say all ceiling murals are good? This just strikes me as a chance for you to gripe about something that isn't a bad thing, it's just different.
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In the case of this one especially, it's looking like it's going to contain some inane platitude (like 'It's All Good!" or some other toxic-positivity mantra), and I imagine the intention of this one from the development team is to signal that the development is contemporary (and under the pretense that it's to "inspire" people or "enliven the space").

In general, the one's I've seen are almost always kitsch. A ceiling is not a proper medium for a piece of painted art, unless incorporated into the building in synthesis with the architecture, and even then, I'd rather have a beautiful structure that I can appreciate in and of itself rather than to have a prescribed--and usually contrived--visual experience of something.
It's pretty clear that inane platitudes are in fact what most of the city wants for its public art. No reason to expect anything else.
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It's pretty clear that inane platitudes are in fact what most of the city wants for its public art. No reason to expect anything else.
This has nothing to do with the city, its on the ceiling of a common area in an apt building. And as for art on a ceiling I think Michelangelo would say it is fine, it is just a pain in the neck.
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I dunno,. I really like the ceiling mural at RICE cube. In this case a flashy mural will draw attention to the angled columns. Could be pretty cool
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Curious. Is it just me, but has this development stalled the last few weeks? I have yet to notice any moment on the site.

p.s. Thanks for the updates, SolarWind

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Old Posted May 31, 2023, 12:29 AM
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Curious. Is it just me, but has this development stalled the last few weeks? I have yet to notice any moment on the site.

p.s. Thanks for the updates, SolarWind
I've noticed as well. I think this project's been topped out since I moved nearby about two months ago but zero action on cladding so far. Most of the work since then has been material staging on each floor and some random HVAC work on the roof.
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