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Prezrezc · #**701** Posted **Jun 24, 2018, 5:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by chris08876

Yes. Its been the hot spot for a lot of new business and tenant relocation. Even to the point of threatening the power balance in Midtown East.

Well, to be kinda fair, HY has been a work in progress for quite some time now, whereas MtE is a comparatively much newer response to present needs.

Plusthe fact that the Yards has a more resi-friendly appeal. And certainly that aspect of the City's continued development into a 21st Century viable place needs addressing.

chris08876 · #**702** Posted **Jun 24, 2018, 9:37 PM**

Its also ground up construction (HY). So not taking existing towers and either renovate/converting them OR taking an existing tower, demolishing it, and building from the ground up. One is arguably cheaper, timetable wise quicker, the other is time-consuming, and expensive. So one could say Midtown West is a bigger bargain. Folks also like new. Speed of delivery is important, and thats what HY offers, along with all of the in-demand modern necessities for corps and establishments alike. Not that Midtown East can't offer that, but at a cost, and most importantly, time.

Barney Greengrass · #**703** Posted **Jun 25, 2018, 5:46 AM**

https://newyorkyimby.com/2018/06/tis...son-yards.html

Gotta love this rendering where the rest of HY has been raptured....

And uh, I'm pretty sure the Sherry Netherland hasn't moved down to W 34th St, lol!

^pretty nice rhd driverless Ferrari, too!

artspook · #**704** Posted **Jun 26, 2018, 12:44 AM**

Bjarke Ingels has designed 2 spectacular medium-sized tower projects . .
both very sophisticated, for the westside riverfront of Manhattan . .
one is finished, a pyramid structure at W57th St . . and a two twisting-towers project,
around the high-line & W18th St, now under construction . .
both outrageously fun, innovative, confident, even serious masterpieces . .

but I'm no fan of his super-tall NYC tower work . .
His psyche must change working at the more impressive scale . .
Does he get overwhelmed & defensive or something . .
it seems to come out all self-important and self-conscious . .
like he wants to force some sophomoric statement, with impunity . .
with immature, clunky bad buildings . . bad Gargantuan buildings . .

2 WTC & the Spiral are "So What !", "I don't care", unresolved work . .
dug-in small ideas (different than sublime simplicity) . .
at a full, can't ignore 1000+ft. scale . . and bothof these Ingels supertalls,
will seriously compromise the dignity, of a nearby soaring giant landmark,
(1WTC & 30HY). . with bombastic mediocrity . .

the attitude seems to be . .
I'm a big-shot bad-boy, super-starchitect, designing Super-talls in Manhattan . .
whatever I do is great . . so I'm punking your skyline with 2 of my biggest farts . .
just 'cause I can . . Sorry Bjarke, we don't all have to bow down . .

some artists just work better on smaller canvasses . .
doesn't mean that the work is any less significant . .
it can be just as important as monumental work . .
Bjarke, your smaller work is fantastic . . lots more of that please . .

chris08876 · #**705** Posted **Jul 2, 2018, 4:02 PM**

Credit: bleak

ILNY · #**706** Posted **Jul 5, 2018, 4:15 AM**

509 West 34th Street (The Spiral) by NyConstructionPhoto, on Flickr

aquablue · #**707** Posted **Jul 6, 2018, 12:46 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by artspook

Bjarke Ingels has designed 2 spectacular medium-sized tower projects . .
both very sophisticated, for the westside riverfront of Manhattan . .
one is finished, a pyramid structure at W57th St . . and a two twisting-towers project,
around the high-line & W18th St, now under construction . .
both outrageously fun, innovative, confident, even serious masterpieces . .

but I'm no fan of his super-tall NYC tower work . .
His psyche must change working at the more impressive scale . .
Does he get overwhelmed & defensive or something . .
it seems to come out all self-important and self-conscious . .
like he wants to force some sophomoric statement, with impunity . .
with immature, clunky bad buildings . . bad Gargantuan buildings . .

2 WTC & the Spiral are "So What !", "I don't care", unresolved work . .
dug-in small ideas (different than sublime simplicity) . .
at a full, can't ignore 1000+ft. scale . . and bothof these Ingels supertalls,
will seriously compromise the dignity, of a nearby soaring giant landmark,
(1WTC & 30HY). . with bombastic mediocrity . .

the attitude seems to be . .
I'm a big-shot bad-boy, super-starchitect, designing Super-talls in Manhattan . .
whatever I do is great . . so I'm punking your skyline with 2 of my biggest farts . .
just 'cause I can . . Sorry Bjarke, we don't all have to bow down . .

some artists just work better on smaller canvasses . .
doesn't mean that the work is any less significant . .
it can be just as important as monumental work . .
Bjarke, your smaller work is fantastic . . lots more of that please . .

No, it's far better than 50HY, 55HY, 3HY(recent render), and many other office towers. Foster's next door is outdated looking and he should be lambasted for desiging a dull tower given his talents and reputation for making imaginative buildings. Rant about him rather than Bjarke who is imaginative and bringing new ideas to the typical corporate box. It's very likely given trends that without BIG, this would have been a boring conventional box.

Some heavy psuedo-psychobabble in there about Ingles too.

aquablue · #**708** Posted **Jul 12, 2018, 7:14 PM**

The base facade on this one is pretty good. Good tower all around, better than the adjacent towers that are rather dull imo.

What is the tower to the left on the render?

jsbrook · #**709** Posted **Jul 12, 2018, 7:24 PM**

I don't think this is a bad tower. The same design would look much better if it was slimmer. But, here, form must follow function. As a modern office tower, it needs this breadth and large floor plates. I suppose you could say the design should have been different given its function, but it's not terrible.

aquablue · #**710** Posted **Jul 12, 2018, 8:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by jsbrook

I don't think this is a bad tower. The same design would look much better if it was slimmer. But, here, form must follow function. As a modern office tower, it needs this breadth and large floor plates. I suppose you could say the design should have been different given its function, but it's not terrible.

Going to disagree there. NY has enough pencil towers going up. Time for them to start building more real skyscrapers, with some presence. I do think that the tower cold look better if it were about 50m taller though

mrnyc · #**711** Posted **Jul 18, 2018, 5:16 PM**

yesterday

gramsjdg · #**712** Posted **Jul 19, 2018, 12:26 AM**

This tower is a waste of air rights and a waste of space.

To quote Blackadder, "Utter crap"

UTEPman · #**713** Posted **Jul 19, 2018, 6:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by gramsjdg

This tower is a waste of air rights and a waste of space.

To quote Blackadder, "Utter crap"

Have to agree.

Of all the bland/clunky looking towers going up in this district, this has got to be the most egregious one of the bunch. It's form literally makes me cringe. It's somehow worse than a plain box.

So much wasted opportunity at such prominent sites right on the waterfront. It's disheartening

UTEPman · #**714** Posted **Jul 19, 2018, 6:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by chris08876

The DOB rendering looks like some sort of mine craft experiment.

Lol. This building looks like it was designed using Windows98 paint.

chris08876 · #**715** Posted **Jul 21, 2018, 6:34 PM**

Credit: atlasacon

JMKeynes · #**716** Posted **Jul 21, 2018, 7:07 PM**

Six one thousand foot+ towers rising simultaneously in one limited area. Only in NY, the Capital of the World!!!

TechTalkGuy · #**717** Posted **Jul 23, 2018, 1:53 AM**

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Originally Posted by JMKeynes

Six one thousand foot+ towers rising simultaneously in one limited area. Only in NY, the Capital of the World!!!

Not one city comes to mind that could equal NYC.

JMKeynes · #**718** Posted **Jul 23, 2018, 3:25 AM**

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Originally Posted by TechTalkGuy

Not one city comes to mind that could equal NYC.

I agree.

NYguy · #**719** Posted **Aug 1, 2018, 4:27 AM**

http://chelseanow.com/2018/07/spiral...ards-district/

Spiral-Inspired Tower Will Rise in Hudson Yards District

Added by Scott Stiffler
July 31, 2018

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.....In 2016, real estate developer Tishman Speyer unveiled the concept for The Spiral. They had bought the Hudson Yards District property and its surroundings in 2014, and a year later, paid a multimillion-dollar settlement to two tenants who would not vacate an apartment in a four-story tenement on 10th Ave. near W. 34th St.

Pfizer recently inked a 20-year lease to become the anchor tenant of the 2.85 million-square-foot office tower. Global headquarters for the pharmaceutical giant will relocate from E. 42nd St., to occupy 15 or so floors of the supertall upon completion in 2022, in what the realtor bills as “the world’s most connected and collaborative office environment.”

Surrounding the areas of Hudson Yards District construction, low-rise structures dot the streets. Midblock, on the south side of 10th Ave. across from the Spiral, stand two older, five-story buildings housing small businesses, the kind that bring personality to a neighborhood. Family-owned Veteran’s Chair Caning & Repair, and Downtown Tire Shop, once mainstay trades for Midtown West, now appear incongruous and could be in peril among the luxury high-rises.

In this era of rampant development, the drama of the city continues to unfold on our streets and across the skyline.

NYguy · #**720** Posted **Aug 10, 2018, 2:59 AM**

Hard to see here, but I believe 50 and the Spiral are going to put on a great show as they both rise into the sky...

https://www.instagram.com/p/BmR8Xc7l...n-by=ozedigger