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Old Posted Nov 28, 2020, 8:04 PM
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This site will join with Grand Central to form one, qualifying site under the east midtown rezoning. That's why the lot size will be more than twice that of 270 Park (about 204,000 sf). In that case, even with the full tower, the site would be underbuilt. A lot that size, with the given FAR of 27 would allow for a tower of 5.5 msf of floor area, likely well above 6 msf total. But that would entail transferring more development rights onto the site, more money for public improvements, etc. The base FAR of 15, which all the sites have, would give a tower of just over 3 msf, close to what they would be building.

Otherwise, if the Hyatt site alone was used, the FAR for the proposed building would be at 39. A look at this site as compared to other potential and projected sites in the GC area...


Grand Hyatt site, 57,000 sf FAR of 27





One Vanderbilt, 44,000 sf FAR of 30





Roosevelt Hotel, 43,000 sf FAR of 30





237 Park Avenue, 65,000 sf FAR of 23 (or 25), a little larger in size because of Depew Place





250 Park Avenue, an unusual site, the lot size larger than the buildable area at 50,000 sf (actual lot is about half that size, probably due to Vanderbilt Ave). This is a projected site, and a building I would like to remain. But with a FAR of 27, it would generate enough floor area to rival One Vanderbilt, on a smaller lot. Anything built here would be very tall, much taller than 343 Madison. I still want it to remain.





270 Park Avenue, 80,000 sf, with a FAR of 23





277 Park Avenue, one I can't figure out, with a lot size of double what it should be, at 162,672 sf.

With the same FAR as 270 Park at 23, that would generate a floor area of 3.74 msf. A tower of that size would be well over 4 msf if built.






But those are just projections using the available zoning, doesn't mean anything has to happen, or will happen anytime soon. But it does open the door up for it, and we are seeing that play out. First order of business is getting this through, and on to the next project.
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Old Posted Nov 30, 2020, 3:01 AM
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Greatly anticipating the improvments to the terminal.



NOVEMBER 29, 2020


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Ground level view of pedestrian improvements in and around the terminal...








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The beautiful Vanderbilt Hall





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Shoppers above, in the Apple store






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Here we see the low ceilings of the Lexington Passage, which runs beneath the Hyatt. Plans are to rebuild this, with greater ceiling heights. It could use it.





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On the opposite side of the market, the Graybar Passage (running beneath the landmarked Graybar Building) is more in line with the appearance of the rest of the terminal.





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People stand in line to get into the Apple store, but at least they have a nice view.





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I've always wanted to see the spaces within the arches on the left (and the empty upper arches on the right) covered with mirrors that replicate the ones on the right.
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I've always wanted to see the spaces within the arches on the left (and the empty upper arches on the right) covered with mirrors that replicate the ones on the right.


I feel like mirrors would cheapen the space. I know that they will be adding skylights to the expanded and enlarged 42nd Street passage. It was something I was hoping they could do with the Lexington passage. But the higher ceilings will greatly improve that space. I've also been studying the ground and second floor diagrams, and there will be an entrance to the 2nd floor office lobby from both 42nd St and the Lexington passage, similar to the Met Life entrance on the main concourse.
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I feel like mirrors would cheapen the space. I know that they will be adding skylights to the expanded and enlarged 42nd Street passage. It was something I was hoping they could do with the Lexington passage. But the higher ceilings will greatly improve that space. I've also been studying the ground and second floor diagrams, and there will be an entrance to the 2nd floor office lobby from both 42nd St and the Lexington passage, similar to the Met Life entrance on the main concourse.
I’ve envisioned something that would precisely parallel what’s in the arches on the south side of that corridor, but instead of having clear glass between the black grids, there would be mirrors. The stone looks too heavy.

Since I don’t take the New Haven line, I rarely go to that area, but I’d still like to see it get more light.
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I’ve envisioned something that would precisely parallel what’s in the arches on the south side of that corridor, but instead of having clear glass between the black grids, there would be mirrors. The stone looks too heavy.

Since I don’t take the New Haven line, I rarely go to that area, but I’d still like to see it get more light.

That heavy look it what makes the station look like it does. No more glass, unless it's to bring in more natural light from above.











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It's pretty amazing just how built up this looks currently, when really it's only the tip of the iceberg for what's to come
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