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[odinthor]

As it happens, I'm super-familiar with this location, as my mother worked for a couple of decades a block away, and my father a couple of decades half a block away. e_r, it's Long Beach, adjacent to Signal Hill:


Google Maps

Here's a view from the side, from Orange Avenue:


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Most of the oil derricks and so on are long gone, but it used to be a forest of derricks there.

(I verified my thoughts at Find-a-Grave for young Miss Burnett; it's Long Beach Municipal Cemetery.)

[ethereal_reality]

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Thanks, odinthor. I was stumped.
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[ethereal_reality]

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Here's another mystery location from abesbooks

"Original Photograph- Los Angeles Street Scene With Scavanger, Produce District"


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A closer look.


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[HossC]

Ringo Bros Produce (Samuel and Dominick) appears at either 1110 or 1112 San Julian Street in the CDs from the early 1930s to the mid-1950s.

[CaliNative]

Originally Posted by Bristolian

These things constantly blow my mind but the equivilant of a 1930 car in 1955 is a 1998 car today.
It just doesn't seem right but it's reality.

When I was a kid in the 1950s and early 1960s it was still common to see cars and trucks from the 1930s being driven around, and it was not unusual to see some 1920s cars as well in traffic. A lot of these 1920s cars were being converted into "hot rods" as well. During WW2 almost no passenger cars were made, so the pre war cars were still common and in demand. After the late 1950s and early 1960s, the older pre war cars were rapidly retired from use and junked, but there were a few still around.

[Earl Boebert]

Originally Posted by CaliNative

When I was a kid in the 1950s and early 1960s it was still common to see cars and trucks from the 1930s being driven around, and it was not unusual to see a some 1920s cars as well in traffic. A lot of these 1920s cars were being converted into "hot rods" as well. During WW2 almost no passenger cars were made, so the pre war cars were still common and in demand. After the late 1950s and early 1960s, the older pre war cars were rapidly retired from use and junked, but there were a few still around.

My first car, bought when I got my license in 1956, was a 1932 Model A Ford.

Cheers,

Earl

[Lwize]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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You're absolutely right, Martin_Pal.

Here's the Hamburger Habit the year I moved to Los Angeles. (1982)

I remember that Hamburger Habit being pretty good. They gave playing cards for order numbers.
(Sadly, the WLA location at National & Sepulveda is just terrible, even with the "Best Burger in LA" banner on the building for the past 35 years.)

[Martin Pal]

In the film The Opposite Sex, with Christina Ricci, there's a scene with Lisa Kudrow behind Hamburger Habit (clearly visible) on the alley side.
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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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But I always ate at the stand on the opposite corner.

This one. I never realized the name was Red-E-Go Foods.



The WeHo website includes this description: "Red E Go Foods on the southeast corner of Santa Monica and Robertson Boulevards in 1982, soon to become Lisa Vanderpump's P.U.M.P."

so. .um. . .I've seen Vanderpump Rules in the tv listings and always wondered what it was. Is it about the P.U.M.P. place?
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That "soon to be" in the caption is very premature, it was several other kinds of unsuccessful small eateries, before it became PUMP in 2014. I'm not an expert on this subject, but this is what I looked up: Before moving to the U.S., Vanderpump designed 26 of the London-based restaurants, bars and clubs that she co-owned with her husband. The couple currently own 3 restaurants in California; SUR Restaurant & Lounge (the focus of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills spin-off Vanderpump Rules) is based in West Hollywood along with Pump Restaurant and Tom Tom Restaurant & Bar.

[Martin Pal]

Originally Posted by Martin Pal

That was Hamburger Habit. That whole block is now under construction.
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This is what I mean... Here's a rendering of the construction taking place in this area. You can see in this rendering they still have the red Hamburger Habit in the bottom right corner of Santa Monica Blvd. and Robertson. It is not there now.



Above: This is looking west along Santa Monica Blvd.; across the street is Pavilions grocery store, which went by Safeway before that, and above that in the photo is where the Palm Restaurant used to be. The construction has finished and it's now a several story apt. or condominium bldg. with possible businesses on the first floor.

The first crosswalk (in the above) is La Peer and the second Almont, at which point this construction is also underway; below:



This is looking southeast along SMB and Melrose where it intersects with Doheny. This is the area where folks were trying to save the art deco veterinary building located there.

A couple articles about these places:

https://commercialobserver.com/2021/...opment/#slide1

https://la.urbanize.city/post/west-h...-gets-new-look

https://faring.com/portfolio/robertson-lane

[Hollywood Graham]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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Here's another mystery location from abesbooks

"Original Photograph- Los Angeles Street Scene With Scavanger, Produce District"


abesbooks



A closer look.


abesbooks


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When I was young in the 50's I went with my father many times to the wholesale produce markets on San Julian St, my father knew many of the Chinese merchants there. We would have lunch in the kitchen at Paul's Cafe usually having a Chinese Pork sandwich with Mayo.. Good memories.

[odinthor]

As long as we're on San Julian, there's a very unusual brickwork pattern along the top of the building across the street at address 1125:


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I don't believe I've ever seen that pattern before.

[Martin Pal]

I like it! The earthquake retrofitting doesn't help the look, but it is necessary. I enjoy looking for movies and TV that takes place in, say NYC, but filmed in L.A. and noticing times when you'll see this retrofitting that isn't in those actual cities. (Not required, but I guess it could be done for other reasons in those places.) I don't recall which one, but in one of the Spiderman movies there's a whole retrofitted brick building I noticed.

[CaliNative]

Originally Posted by Earl Boebert

My first car, bought when I got my license in 1956, was a 1932 Model A Ford.

Cheers,

Earl

A classic. Hope you kept it. Just goes to show, things once regarded as junk can later become treasures. Fortunately I kept my baseball card collection. Had some cards in there that became valuable, e.g. Sandy Koufax as a Brooklyn Dodger, Don Drysdale as Brooklyn Dodger, early Mickey Mantle and Willie Mays etc. Advantages of being a packrat. Unfortunately, lost some years later in a move, and most of the rest I sold years later for thousands of dollars but if I had saved them, would probably be worth tens of thousands or more.

[Engineeral]

Originally Posted by odinthor

As long as we're on San Julian, there's a very unusual brickwork pattern along the top of the building across the street at address 1125:


gsv

I don't believe I've ever seen that pattern before.

Known as "basket weave" (obviously) now mainly seen in paving-stone patterns.

[1612havenhurstdrive]

Originally Posted by Martin Pal

I like it! The earthquake retrofitting doesn't help the look, but it is necessary. I enjoy looking for movies and TV that takes place in, say NYC, but filmed in L.A. and noticing times when you'll see this retrofitting that isn't in those actual cities. (Not required, but I guess it could be done for other reasons in those places.) I don't recall which one, but in one of the Spiderman movies there's a whole retrofitted brick building I noticed.

the mere presence of a Spider-Man requires extensive retrofitting throughout the city...

[Martin Pal]

LOL!

[ethereal_reality]

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A mystery location.

"Goodhue" shows up often in a search of NLA but the posts all concern Bertram Goodhue, the architect of the Los Angeles Central Library.



eBay

. . .and not one post on the Goodhue Baking Co.

Does anyone know where this bakery company was located?

[HossC]

The 1909 and 1910 CDs have the Goodhue Baking Co (C F & R T Goodhue) located at 1138 W 17th Street. It was run by Chas F Goodhue of 3432 Budlong Avenue and Ralph T Goodhue of 2706 S Normandie Avenue. Both are listed as bakers in the 1908 CD, but there's no business address.

It looks like Charles must've died around 1910, because the 1911 CD has his widow, Vashti C Goodhue listed as president and Ralph as VP. Ralph is still listed as a baker in 1915, but I couldn't find the bakery. BTW Ralph appears to have moved in with Vashti. I didn't look any later.

When I was young, we acquired a cat called Vashti (named by the original owners). I believe that Vashti was a queen of Persia.

[riichkay]

In re: Vashti C. Goodhue.....




Apoplexy = cerebral hemorrhage or stroke.

[odinthor]

Mr. Goodhue died of apoplexy as well:


LA Herald, 5/10/1910

He died just about a year after this item:


LA Herald, 5/19/1909

About 1138 W. 17th (I wonder if the house behind the delivery wagon in the original photo is perhaps the Goodhue home on W. 17th?), we have some Maurices and Mauricios to talk about:

1906 CD: Maurice C. Mauricio, baker, Superior Bakery, res 1138 W. 17th (the Superior Bakery itself was at 442 S. Spring)

1907 CD: Maurice C. Mauricio, baker, at 1138 W 17th

[Goodhue years intervene at the address]

1912 CD: Maurice C. Mauricio (Mauricio & Fox) at 1138 W. 17th

1913 CD: We find at 1138 W. 17th Maurice C. Mauricio as well as Anthony Maurice machinist