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Old Posted Oct 18, 2020, 2:59 AM
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^ Could be a luxury brand, that's the most obvious assumption.

However, it could also be a mainstream auto company looking to create a flagship, like a permanent auto show display. Mag Mile real estate is so expensive that it's hard to make a profit on sales alone - usually part of the rent is subsidized as a marketing expense. But car dealerships are operated independently so they don't have f***-you level marketing budgets to work with. That suggests the involvement of the automaker itself. The automaker is prohibited from selling direct to the customer, they can't compete with their own dealerships, but they can promote their products and provide a list of nearby dealerships.

The Best Buy space isn't really large enough to show physical cars anyway (and it's on two levels without an auto ramp) but they can do infographics, virtual displays, etc.
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I used to go to that Best Buy a bit when I lived nearby. While its not as big as a regular Best Buy, it can definitely fit some cars in it. The permit estimated cost is over $200K as well. If the Tesla showroom nearby can fit a handful of cars then so can this. Not the same set up but there should be a small handful at least. Also consider that the layout of BB made it seem smaller than it really is. The entire store is 35,000 sq ft. The Bentley, Lamborghini, etc dealership nearby is 11,000 sq ft and the Tesla one near that is even smaller.

As far as the brand goes I guess it could be anything. I won't put my money on a supercar dealership. Could easily be something like Honda or Hyundai or maybe even a brand from China like Geely or another foreign manufacturer trying to break into the American market. Although my money is on someone like GM...
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I don’t see why GM, Ford, etc types would want a Mag Mile showroom

I see it being a company that really wants to get their name brand out there into the mainstream. I think it will be Tesla
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I don’t see why GM, Ford, etc types would want a Mag Mile showroom

I see it being a company that really wants to get their name brand out there into the mainstream. I think it will be Tesla
Tesla was supposed to have one at 800 N Michigan which fell through. They already have a showroom nearby at Delaware & Rush. I suppose they could move but I'm guessing it's not them.

I am saying someone like GM because they aren't as fashionable as a Tesla or others. My guess is a brand like that trying to win certain people over again. Perhaps a big brand pushing their electric brands to compete with Tesla.

Either that or a higher end type of car from another country like Geely, trying to establish a US footprint. Although my wife (probably rightly) points out not many people in the US currently would buy a brand like Geely.
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I am saying someone like GM because they aren't as fashionable as a Tesla or others. My guess is a brand like that trying to win certain people over again. Perhaps a big brand pushing their electric brands to compete with Tesla.
If not this, I'd say Rivian
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2020, 4:51 PM
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If not this, I'd say Rivian
Yeah but they said they don't want showrooms. Unless they changed position..
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Yeah but they said they don't want showrooms. Unless they changed position..
I think that was for dealers, I came across this quote in a Bloomberg article from September of this year:
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Plug-in truck maker Rivian, which aims to begin selling its R1T pickup and R1S SUV next year without a franchised dealer network, likely will open its first showrooms in California and Illinois, states that are friendly to its business model, Chen said.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ct-sales-fight
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2020, 9:20 PM
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I think that was for dealers, I came across this quote in a Bloomberg article from September of this year:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ct-sales-fight
Nice. Might be them then...
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I've always thought that if French cars come back to the US, high end "design showrooms" like what we're talking about would be cool. I could totally see a Citroen showroom on Mich Ave, promoting them as unique and different.
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The link to my permit map in my signature was all messed up. Hope it works now..
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I've always thought that if French cars come back to the US, high end "design showrooms" like what we're talking about would be cool. I could totally see a Citroen showroom on Mich Ave, promoting them as unique and different.
When the topic about an auto dealer moving into 875 N. Michigan came up, my first thoughts went to Peugeot, but they are not scheduled to re-enter the US market until 2023 at the earliest.
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I just read that Lucid Motors is planning to open up a Chicago showroom in 2021 along with a handful of other cities..
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I just read that Lucid Motors is planning to open up a Chicago showroom in 2021 along with a handful of other cities..
I suspect it's Lucid. They've been opening up stores in high profile retail destinations across some US city centers recently.
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I never heard of Lucid Motors until I just Googled them now. I guess that's why they need a showroom.

On another note, Detroit better watch out. California seems to be dominating the trend of electric vehicles, which seems to be the future.
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I never heard of Lucid Motors until I just Googled them now. I guess that's why they need a showroom.

On another note, Detroit better watch out. California seems to be dominating the trend of electric vehicles, which seems to be the future.
I only heard about them in passing but their cars look pretty nice. Apparently their newest battery has a range of over 100 miles more than Tesla. Very close to cars like Honda Accord now. Some of their top people used to be at Tesla, Mazda, etc. Well funded..

Michigan or Detroit (forget which) wants to ban direct sales of Lucid and I think even Tesla. Evolve or die. These industries around a cleaner energy will happen sooner or later where there's a job boom. Tesla, Lucid, Rivian, etc are all based in CA. They will take over Detroit eventually unless companies like GM can be successful in their electric vehicle plans. Thats one reason I think this could easily be a GM showroom for electric vehicles as something like Lucid. Also the architect of record for Lamar Johnson Collaborative did something for GM near Detroit about a decade ago. Probably doesn't mean anything but..fun fact.
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I only heard about them in passing but their cars look pretty nice. Apparently their newest battery has a range of over 100 miles more than Tesla. Very close to cars like Honda Accord now. Some of their top people used to be at Tesla, Mazda, etc. Well funded..

Michigan or Detroit (forget which) wants to ban direct sales of Lucid and I think even Tesla. Evolve or die. These industries around a cleaner energy will happen sooner or later where there's a job boom. Tesla, Lucid, Rivian, etc are all based in CA. They will take over Detroit eventually unless companies like GM can be successful in their electric vehicle plans. Thats one reason I think this could easily be a GM showroom for electric vehicles as something like Lucid. Also the architect of record for Lamar Johnson Collaborative did something for GM near Detroit about a decade ago. Probably doesn't mean anything but..fun fact.
In the United States, direct manufacturer auto sales are prohibited in almost every state by franchise laws requiring that new cars be sold only by authorized independent dealers. Tesla has been fighting these laws and asking for exemptions via their lobbyists and has had some success but I'm not sure how much or in which states.
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In the United States, direct manufacturer auto sales are prohibited in almost every state by franchise laws requiring that new cars be sold only by authorized independent dealers. Tesla has been fighting these laws and asking for exemptions via their lobbyists and has had some success but I'm not sure how much or in which states.
Sorry not sure why I said direct sales. I think they were trying to ban Tesla sales period in Michigan. However I am behind. They struck a deal earlier this year.
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I've always thought that if French cars come back to the US, high end "design showrooms" like what we're talking about would be cool. I could totally see a Citroen showroom on Mich Ave, promoting them as unique and different.
Citroen used to have a cool showroom on the Champs-Élysées (Paris's Mag Mile). Something similar would very much fit in on the Mag Mile. More museum/brand experience showcase than a dealership. Was a nice spot to get out of the sun and connect to free wifi during a recent trip.

https://www.architonic.com/en/projec...-paris/5100183
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Officials from Chicago-based Belgravia Group said its latest condominium development, CA6 West Loop, is 35% sold. The firm plans to break ground on the 72-unit, seven-story building at 305-323 South Racine Ave. later this fall.
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