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I LOVE the extra outdoor seating all over the city. It would be really vibrant if we did this going forward, weather pending.
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They should just go ahead and pedestrianize Fulton Market permanently outside of morning delivery hours. The streetscaping is already in place to make it a well-designed public space even without cars.

It's probably too late to add retractable bollards, but New Orleans pedestrianized Royal and Bourbon Streets with some cheap-but-attractive movable barricades made of wrought iron at each intersection. They look a hell of a lot better than the orange construction barriers. They just have a city employee put them out every day.

I've been really disappointed with the lack of creativity or "urban solutions" out of the Lightfoot administration... here's hoping they step it up during the Covid recovery. People talk about NYC recovering after 9/11, but that didn't just happen... it was also the period that Bloomberg was working overtime to lure people back to the city, with new bike lanes, pedestrian plazas everywhere, the High Line opened, etc. The leadership had to create new and exciting reasons to come back to the city center after that major tragedy.
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I don't want to get into a political debate, but I don't think that is one of our current mayor's strength. To be fair, she has a lot on her plate.

Now, Rahm...
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Survey markers have gone up in the grassy patch of land at the end of the culdesac on 9th street off clark between amli lofts, amli 900, and elevated metra tracks. I remember it was once planned for townhomes, but I’ve always hoped someone could think of something better for it. The skyline to the northwest is pretty killer.
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They should just go ahead and pedestrianize Fulton Market permanently outside of morning delivery hours. The streetscaping is already in place to make it a well-designed public space even without cars.

It's probably too late to add retractable bollards, but New Orleans pedestrianized Royal and Bourbon Streets with some cheap-but-attractive movable barricades made of wrought iron at each intersection. They look a hell of a lot better than the orange construction barriers. They just have a city employee put them out every day.

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Yes, the normal good weather outdoor dining setups on Fulton already push you into the street when there is any kind of crowd around in the evenings. Same thing over on Randolph with the service lanes.

I do like these rolling retractable barriers that NYC is using in some spots. A more permanent version of this would be good for Fulton.

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I noticed the Census Flow Mapper for 2018 came out sometime recently which shows inbound and outbound between counties in the US. I put together data based on which metro areas and states people moved to the Chicago MSA from in 2018. This is a study so there's a margin of error.

https://flowsmapper.geo.census.gov/map.html#

2018, number of people who moved to Chicago MSA from MSAs located outside of Illinois

1. NYC MSA: 7307 people
2. Los Angeles MSA: 4753 people
3. St. Louis MSA: 4479 people
4. Indianapolis MSA: 4319 people
5. Milwaukee MSA: 4122 people
6. Washington DC MSA: 3531 people
7. Atlanta MSA: 3271 people
8. Minneapolis MSA: 3049 people
9. Detroit MSA: 2899 people
10. San Francisco MSA: 2865 people
11. Boston MSA: 2677 people
12. Phoenix MSA: 2587 people
13. Dallas MSA: 2569 people
14. Miami MSA: 2534 people
15. Houston MSA: 2518 people
16. Madison, WI MSA: 2098 people
17. Cincinnati MSA: 2011 people
18. San Diego MSA: 1928 people
19. Virginia Beach MSA: 1745 people
20. Denver MSA: 1723 people
21. Philadelphia MSA: 1616 people
22. Seattle MSA: 1607 people
23. Nashville MSA: 1579 people
24. Cleveland MSA: 1515 people
25. Charlotte MSA: 1462 people

2018, number of people who moved to Chicago MSA from states not named Illinois

1. Indiana: 24,562 people
2. Wisconsin: 14,737 people
3. California: 13,693 people
4. Texas: 9532 people
5. Florida: 9106 people
6. Michigan: 8804 people
7. Ohio: 6788 people
8. New York: 6428 people
9. Missouri: 4994 people
10. Virginia: 4627 people
11. Georgia: 4356 people
12. Iowa: 3904 people
13. Minnesota: 3825 people
14. Pennsylvania: 3712 people
15. Arizona: 3666 people
16. North Carolina: 3486 people
17. Tennessee: 3408 people
18. Massachusetts: 3398 people
19. Colorado: 3342 people
20. New Jersey: 2833 people
21. Washington: 2260 people
22. Maryland: 2166 people
23. South Carolina: 1481 people
24. Puerto Rico: 1428 people
25. Nevada: 1425 people

2018, number of people who moved to Chicago MSA from MSAs all or mostly located within Illinois
Champaign: 3657 people
Ottawa: 2678 people
Rockford: 2554 people
Peoria: 1909 people
Davenport, IA: 1329 people (mostly located within Illinois, but not 100%)
Springfield: 1296 people
Carbondale: 1226 people
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Survey markers have gone up in the grassy patch of land at the end of the culdesac on 9th street off clark between amli lofts, amli 900, and elevated metra tracks. I remember it was once planned for townhomes, but I’ve always hoped someone could think of something better for it. The skyline to the northwest is pretty killer.
Townhomes? No, that patch of land is reserved for an underpass beneath the Metra tracks.

I do see that the city has allocated $3M for design/engineering, so the survey markers may be connected to that.
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Townhomes? No, that patch of land is reserved for an underpass beneath the Metra tracks.

I do see that the city has allocated $3M for design/engineering, so the survey markers may be connected to that.
Thank goodness... I always thought it was ridiculous that there was no underpass there.
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Oh good, an underpass would be more use to me and my dog than a building. Maybe they’ll add a traffic signal on Clark to stop the drag racers who’ve discovered the city’s longest stretch of straightaway.
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^ Yeah, an underpass has been planned there for decades, along with a new river bridge at Taylor.

Also, part of the plans for The 78 include “taming” Clark south of Roosevelt with a landscaped median, parking lanes and wider sidewalks on both sides.
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I notice there are no stakes west of the tracks, so I suspect this is for some utility project rather than the Ninth Street underpass—much less a new building.
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^ Possibly. It's encouraging that the city Capital Improvement Plan includes money for this explicitly, no? I know those plans are just a rough outline and not binding, but the underpass was identified as a "2019" budget item instead of a "future/within 5 years" budget item, so CDOT wants to start this sooner than later.

Granted, that plan was prepared before we had a Covid-sized hole in the city budget... but most of those projects come out of TIF so the money is there unless Lightfoot wants to declare a TIF surplus.
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A few zoning applications out of note:

1) Plumbers Local 130 with a zoning application out to build a new 85 foot tall parking garage with nearly 15,000 sq ft of ground floor commercial space on the surface lot at Randolph and Ada (next to Kaiser Tiger). I could be wrong but the Randolph street side looks like they might be making it look more like a residential building even if it's not.

2019 streetview:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/13...!4d-87.6610104

2) Existing 7 story vacant warehouse at 1819 N Major in Galewood - 282K sq ft - looking to rehab the entire thing for commercial uses. Name of the project is White Cap Lofts.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/18...!4d-87.7679755

3) Lake View Lutheran Church at 835 W Addison to be torn down and a new 69 foot tall building with 37 affordable housing units and 12 parking spaces to go in its place. It looks as if religious assembly space (probably from the same church) would go in on the ground floor.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/83...!4d-87.6509451

4) Proposed 2 new buildings with 20 total units and 18 parking spaces at 2208 W Lawrence. Currently a vacant lot used for parking and a few blocks east of Western Ave. Next to Roots Pizza.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/22...9!4d-87.684549

5) Currently vacant building(s) at 2008-12 S Ashland in Pilsen to be torn down for a new 4 story, 14 unit building. One of the buildings on this site right now is set back many feet from Ashland with a small surface parking lot in front on Ashland. Developer is The Resurrection Project

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8546...7i16384!8i8192

6) Our favorite former Pizza Hut at North & Western is back at it again. Unfortunately before it was only going to become a convenience store (7-11). Now it's back to also include a new 4 story, 9 unit building on the site. While not as good as before, at least it's better than only a 1 story retail building on the site.

The former pizza hut was already torn down:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/16...!4d-87.6869622

7) Currently vacant lot at 4301 W Milwaukee (& Cullom) to become 4 story (49 feet) building with 9 units and ground floor commercial space on Milwaukee Ave. Building formerly on this parcel was torn down in 2017 or 2018.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/43...!4d-87.7526215


ALSO Hogsalt (Au Cheval, Maude's, Gilt Bar, etc) has an application up to convert the building at 1352 W Lake St near Ogden (close to West End on Fulton) to a restaurant with outdoor patio.
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The Hogsalt project is another Small Cheval. It’s close-ish to Au Cheval but definitely feels like a world away.

That end of Fulton Market is pretty sleepy except for Kaiser Tiger and some more traditional sit downs like Macello, Smyth and Elske. it’ll be interesting to see if they can breathe some life into it.
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