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gsjansen · #**4021** Posted **Jun 11, 2011, 12:05 AM**

this is one of the ground floor elevator lobby sconces

Source: Library of Congress

hyperionredcar · #**4022** Posted **Jun 11, 2011, 2:11 AM**

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yep, still there, albeit looking a tad disheveled from years of wear and tear though, (enter at your own risk

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I loved driving home to Glendale and coming through the tunnels. Back in the 70's there was a skull artistically spray painted on the cylinder of the stair support.

I believe it could be seen in the opening sequence of "Dual" with Dennis Weaver.

gsjansen · #**4023** Posted **Jun 11, 2011, 1:28 PM**

images of the construction of the edison building, 5th and grand 1929-1930.

the site at the corner of 5th and grand before work commenced

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clearing the site for the edison

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Raker beams to keep the sherwood from ending up in the edison foundation

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foundation work begins

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buttressed north and west foundation walls, (it looks like they used almost as much concrete as the boulder dam!)

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Ta-Da!

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gsjansen · #**4024** Posted **Jun 11, 2011, 1:40 PM**

another image showing the outpost sign above hollywood

this 1928 photograph is taken from the 1st national bank building at highland and hollywood looking north west. the outpost sign is visible to the left and above center of the photograph

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of further interest, (particularly to Mr. Bariscale), the franklin garden apartments is visible through the trees beyond the armor arms and to the right of the magic castle

a 1924 aerial clearly showing the franklin garden apartments to the right of the magic castle

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The North One · #**4025** Posted **Jun 11, 2011, 4:30 PM**

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Look at that pedestrian traffic...

gsjansen · #**4026** Posted **Jun 11, 2011, 4:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by The North One

Look at that pedestrian traffic...

i'm actually shocked by the lack of vehicular traffic on broadway!

ahhhhh much better

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sopas ej · #**4027** Posted **Jun 11, 2011, 5:38 PM**

Hehe a horse and wagon in the mix, too.

Isn't that an amazing photo? Prior to traffic lights and more established driving rules and laws, the way traffic moved in the early days of motoring was the way it had been moving for hundreds of years in busy cities, where an intersection was a free-for-all. If you look at film footage from the 1910s and early 1920s of big American cities and the way people drove, it was really no different than the way traffic moves in third world countries today, like in say, Indonesia.

Great photos, by the way, of the Edison Bldg. construction!

Ninja55 · #**4028** Posted **Jun 12, 2011, 4:44 AM**

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Bert Rovere's Paris Inn about 1952 on N. Broadway

Ninja55 · #**4029** Posted **Jun 12, 2011, 4:46 AM**

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Two years later, Bert's retired, Paris Inn closed.

Ninja55 · #**4030** Posted **Jun 12, 2011, 4:47 AM**

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2010 the building remains. Built in 1904, renovated in 1940.

Ninja55 · #**4031** Posted **Jun 12, 2011, 4:57 AM**

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Little Joe's started in 1897 as the Italian-American Grocery Co. They changed their name to Little Joe's in the early '40's. Closed in 1998. But.........

Ninja55 · #**4032** Posted **Jun 12, 2011, 5:01 AM**

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The parking lot was owned, by, yes you guessed it.....Bert Rovere! He rented the space out for many years to Little Joe's. When Bert's wife Virginia passed in 1963, Little Joe's had first dibs on the lot. My father, Lawrence Rovere (Bert's nephew), and many other family members filed a suit against the last will of Virginia. Unfortunately it was thrown out in court. They valued the lot at $ 200,000 back in 1963!!

gsjansen · #**4033** Posted **Jun 12, 2011, 12:27 PM**

somehow, i thought we had talked about little joe's, 900 n. broadway. located at the north east corner of college and broadway. i can't seem to locate any postings about it though..........................

anyway.............

In 1908 Robert Nuccio opened the Italian American Grocery store at 450 Hewitt Street.

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In 1922 he sold the business to his best friend John Gadeschi and Joe Vivalda, they purchased the n. broadway building and relocated the store there in 1927.
prevoulsly the 900 n. broadway building housed the d.w. davis grocery and provisions store

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The upper floors served as a hotel

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In 1933 they opened up the little joe's restaurant at the north side of the building. The expansion of the grocery business into the restaurant business was necessitated in the early 1930s by an increasing number of construction workers frequenting the grocery store for meals and driving away other customers from the grocery business. By expanding to the cafe next door, John and Joe were able to keep their grocery customers and accomodate an increasing number of restaurant/meal customers.

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According to well established family stories, the basement room was used to dress or clean wild game caught at Joe Vivalda's ranch near Ft. Tejon, to be served at the restaurant. Kneeling at right: Joe Vivalda.

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after the construction of union station, chinatown relocated and centered itself around n. broadway. this photograph looking east on college across broadway was taken in 1941

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at some point in either the late 40's or early 50's, the building was completely remodeled

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an additional dining catering room was added on the north side of the building

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in the late 60's the building was once again heavily remodeled, removing the upper hotel portion of the building.

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in the late 70's i ate at little joe's, and this 1977 family portrait photograph, looking north on broadway across college, is exactly how i remember it.....

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even though Robert Nuccio had sold the business back in 1922 to John Gadeschi and Joe Vivalda, the Nuccio family was always involved with the restaurant. On the left are John Albert Nuccio, Steve Nuccio, photograph was taken some time on the late 70's early 80's

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sopas ej · #**4034** Posted **Jun 12, 2011, 6:03 PM**

Great set of photos, gsjansen!

Little Joe's has always fascinated me. I regret not ever having eaten there before it closed; I remember the local news even covered its closing.

When I was young, before I learned the history of LA's Chinatown, I always thought it was odd that there'd be an Italian restaurant in Chinatown. And when I first learned what the building used to look like, I thought that it was a shame that it was remodeled.

Those Who Squirm! · #**4035** Posted **Jun 12, 2011, 11:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by gsjansen

the old footbridge that spanned the cornfield yards between spring and broadway

Thank you for the great pictures and link.

Is my memory of it still being there around 1980 correct?

Ninja55 · #**4036** Posted **Jun 12, 2011, 11:41 PM**

Thanks gsjansen! Amazing history for one small business. I knew one of you old la timers would come up with more info and pics.

ethereal_reality · #**4037** Posted **Jun 13, 2011, 12:18 AM**

This snapshot from ebay was simply labeled the 1925 Hollywood Christmas Parade.

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I can pick out Santa Claus (far right), but the parade seems to be in downtown Los Angeles (unlike the famous Hollywood Christmas Parade).

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below: Details of the above photos.

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below: So what is this building under construction? Is it the Pacific Mutual Building?
In the detail below, I can make out 'new head office' and 'pacific'.

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below: This small photo shows a corner of the building that is under construction in the above photos.

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A view of the same area found in the USC Digital Archive.

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ethereal_reality · #**4038** Posted **Jun 13, 2011, 1:08 AM**

Label this one under 'kitsch'.

The Jail Cafe at 4212 Sunset Blvd. in 1927.

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below: Notice the faux guard in the central tower. The 4212 address is on the white globe below the 'tower'.

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below: Cells for nonsupport and speeding?? This has to be the worst idea for a restaurant ever!

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What did they serve....bread and water?

ethereal_reality · #**4039** Posted **Jun 13, 2011, 2:03 AM**

below: The Lucca Cafe at 501 S. Western Ave.

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I wonder if all the signs down the street are referring to the Lucca Cafe.
The signs include 'dancing'......'grotto'.....and 'coffee shop'.

ethereal_reality · #**4040** Posted **Jun 13, 2011, 2:28 AM**

A mysterious Los Angeles snapshot from ebay.

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Notice the unusual street light with the twin globes. Can anyone place this photograph in it's proper location?