[Halifax] Moxy Hotel & The Trinity (5415 Cogswell) | 64 m | 21 fl | U/C

[mleblanc]

Originally Posted by Northend Guy

Drove by this morning around 9 am. Emergency crews were on site. Fire, police & ambulance. Always turns my stomach when I see stuff like that. Hoping for the best for whoever needed the emergency response...

Looks like there was another accident at this site today. They actually used the main crane to lift someone on a stretcher out of the site.

source: https://www.reddit.com/r/halifax/com...omeone_at_the/

[MastClimberPro]

Second crane has been up for a week now. Not sure why the site requires a second one. Speed?

[kph06]

Originally Posted by MastClimberPro

Second crane has been up for a week now. Not sure why the site requires a second one. Speed?

They haven’t quite fully installed it yet, it still is missing the boom. They added a few tower sections and cab last week. They took the same slow approach with the second crane when they built the Roy. I assume it’s a 2 crane site due to confines of the site and amount of concrete to pour. It’s a sizeable site, and the building is bulky, getting all corners might be hard with one crane, it would be sited in the middle of the building, which can be disruptive for fitting out lower floors and the boom length for far reaches might exceed load limits. I think it has taken a while to get the second crane active because excavation is still on going on the east side. They have to “dig themselves out” removing the access ramp as they go, so until that is gone, they cannot pour concrete on all of the basement slab.

[someone123]

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[Jonovision]

Originally Posted by someone123

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That was my old view! I miss that apartment.

[KnoxfordGuy]

Renderings?

[stevencourchene]

https://www.facebook.com/26099633723...648592820/?d=n

[HRMjoe]

those renderings are quite old. not sure how to upload images, but there has been an evolution in the design.

[stevencourchene]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/urba...6771367330633/



This is what was on the construction fence.

[mleblanc]

Originally Posted by HRMjoe

those renderings are quite old. not sure how to upload images, but there has been an evolution in the design.

Interesting! You can go to https://imgur.com/upload to upload the photo, and to share it click the options in the top corner of the photo, click 'Get share links', then click "BBCode (Forums)" for the link!

[HRMjoe]

Yes you’re right.. we are slow on the updates for the fence renderings.

Check out Templeton Properties Facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/18503422154...363441884/?d=n

Posted a few up there

Originally Posted by stevencourchene

https://www.facebook.com/groups/urba...6771367330633/



This is what was on the construction fence.

[mleblanc]

Originally Posted by HRMjoe

Yes you’re right.. we are slow on the updates for the fence renderings.

Check out Templeton Properties Facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/18503422154...363441884/?d=n

Posted a few up there

Thanks, Joe. Just for ease I'll repost the main ones here. I was hoping that MASSIVE Brunswick St. facing street wall would be fixed, but I guess not. I can't imagine it's going to be pleasant walking by with 21 stories of downward wind coming at you. Did we not learn anything from the Maritime Centre?

[HRMjoe]

Sorry you don’t approve of the design. We have made it as good as possible given all the city planning requirements, setbacks, view planes etc.

If permitted We would have preferred to set the tower deeper into the site, but the rules require buildings located as designed.

Planning rules tie developers and architects hands behind their backs. But putting realities of design restrictions aside, we are very proud of the quality the building will be designed to, and I’m confident it will be a excellent addition to the area.

We have added cornice details along the Brunswick face to break up the wind effects, and will ensure a pleasant experience inside and around the site.

[Jonovision]

It kind of looks like a hot mess to be honest. I realize there are viewplanes and restrictions on the site but a good architect can use the planning regulations to their advantage to come up with a good design. I do not see that when I look at this. All I see is a blocked out simple massing that is cut out with the viewplanes with little regard for the pedestrian experience around the building.

[mleblanc]

Originally Posted by Jonovision

It kind of looks like a hot mess to be honest. I realize there are viewplanes and restrictions on the site but a good architect can use the planning regulations to their advantage to come up with a good design. I do not see that when I look at this. All I see is a blocked out simple massing that is cut out with the viewplanes with little regard for the pedestrian experience around the building.

100% agreed. Even with the Maple - with as obnoxiously wide as it is - it has a nice, human scale podium.

This is coming from someone who is incredibly pro-development: this is one of the worst looking proposals in terms of massing I've seen in years here in Halifax. I hope you're going to spend the money to make up on finishes because the overall design isn't doing you any favours.

[HRMjoe]

Originally Posted by mleblanc

100% agreed. Even with the Maple - with as obnoxiously wide as it is - it has a nice, human scale podium.

This is coming from someone who is incredibly pro-development: this is one of the worst looking proposals in terms of massing I've seen in years here in Halifax. I hope you're going to spend the money to make up on finishes because the overall design isn't doing you any favours.

Remind me what developments of yours I should study to make sure the next building is more to your liking?

Im confident the pedestrian experience will be pleasant, and even more so, the residents experience is going to be second to none. The renderings posted do not show the courtyard off cogswell st. clearly. The courtyard is going to be a amazing gathering space and very much activated with art, lighting and entertainment.

Hopefully when the finish product is on display you’ll come down for a tour.

[yal]

I only read the forums, never post but I had to resurrect my account to come in just to say how horrible this building looks.. So bland and boring on such a prominent spot..

[Good Baklava]

Originally Posted by HRMjoe

Remind me what developments of yours I should study to make sure the next building is more to your liking?

I think the trinity site should draw inspiration from this apartment complex in Vladivostok, basically the Russian version of Halifax. Given how wide this development already is, the trinity site is practically already halfway there! Vladivostok sets the precedent the 5415 Cogswell can only hope to emulate - good attempt but not quite there! More people could be given views of the downtown and harbour. It would definitely be an improvement over the existing pedestrian experience. Slender buildings are so 2010’s, glad to see the 70s make a comeback!


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[atbw]

Originally Posted by HRMjoe

Remind me what developments of yours I should study to make sure the next building is more to your liking?

Im confident the pedestrian experience will be pleasant, and even more so, the residents experience is going to be second to none. The renderings posted do not show the courtyard off cogswell st. clearly. The courtyard is going to be a amazing gathering space and very much activated with art, lighting and entertainment.

Hopefully when the finish product is on display you’ll come down for a tour.

With all due respect, Templeton does not have a great reputation when it comes to tasteful design or having finished products meet renderings. The renderings vs. reality for the Aya are unrecognizable, and the bright pink signage and lettering on top of the Vuze makes it look more like a hotel or a casino than someplace someone would call home.

On this, the main mass is huge and the complicated shape makes it look unrefined and hard to define. There's no rhyme or reason to it - every side looks like it could be a picture of a different building. Exposed pilars

This vs. the Maple which others have noted has a very defined podium and good pedestrian experience, or the Alexander which has an interaction with the street that actually focuses on the street-level presence with fantastic detail - such that you forget it's even a tower. Dexel has also shown their ability to break up large building while still having it be a cohesive product with their project on Robie.

Working within the viewplanes, I can imagine taking that angled section at the corner all the way down to street level for a flatiron effect, and bringing the mid-rise portion closer to the street and making parts of them townhouses interacting with the hill, like Flynn Flats. Could have also made a bit of a townhouse courtyard, referencing the other eras of townhouses up and down Brunswick.

[someone123]

It seems a bit unrealistic to blame developers for building out to the envelope that the municipality allows. Aside from giving up profit the development potential tends to influence land costs and cities have norms for price per unit.

We have a lot of people arguing for affordable housing and smaller buildings on multimillion dollar land parcels.