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Old Posted Nov 10, 2020, 5:33 PM
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I think it looks cool for what amounts to a passageway. I'm curious how it will age. The longer I photograph, the more I become curious about how materials seem to decay.

Take Navy Pier for instance. If you've been on that formerly-new wave wall/grand staircase, it looks cool from far, but up close it's already decrepit. The glass walls are hazy, streaky, and dirty. The wood treads are worn, and the steel slats that make up the wall/under the stairs are a trap for massive spider webs, leaves, and trash.

I think if this space stays clean and bright, it'll be quite nice, but I do worry a bit about what sort of crud may worm its way into the seams of the slats. Thankfully, most of this space isn't totally exposed to the elements so I think they should hold up well, but time will tell.

Relatedly, the older I get, and the quicker time seems to pass, the faster things seem to age. I remember when Millennium Park felt brand spanking news, and now, I can see signs of aging everywhere. I know nothing lasts forever, but when it comes to material selection and design, how much consideration is given to how long something will look "good." And how long should things look new?

Another example is the "new" Rush Hospital. At once it was a gleaming white edifice, but you can already see some staining. Even worse, the older wing next door is stained and discolored.

McCormick Place is yet another. How much of this is dirt that can be cleaned vs. actual facade damage that can't be reversed.
Ditto for Ohare Terminals, Thompson Center, MoMO on state!
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yeah i dunno about "really fantastic" or "really nice"... maybe "passable" or "functional" ... all that grey and the low, wide proportions contributes to a feeling of compression and sterility IMHO... a little color wouldn't have killed anyone... hard to tell from photos but here's hoping it's leans more futuristic-sleek than hospital waste disposal alley!
Lol, I agree with passable/functional. Everyone does realize what is all the way on the other side of the lowest bowels of Wacker drive correct? It will never be pretty no matter what they do to it. Wacker is 3 levels deep in front of Vista (upper, middle, and lower). The lowest level is pretty dingy on a good day.
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Some warmer tones ...possibly wood colored paneling's would of added a nice effect...I agree it could of been done better wtih some simple color changes for a rather dank cut through.
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Hopefully the wrap the concrete columns in stainless steel or something.
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Old Posted Nov 10, 2020, 8:21 PM
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Some warmer tones ...possibly wood colored paneling's would of added a nice effect...I agree it could of been done better wtih some simple color changes for a rather dank cut through.
I could see using warmer tones or a wood pattern anything more on the interior of a space, unless it's some sort of beadboard ceiling for a single family home porch.

I think context is key, and as others have mentioned, it's primarily a utilitarian space, that nevertheless still came out looking pretty nice and clean.

Also, 'dank' is the last word I would use to describe that underpass. I can show show you examples of PLENTY of other underpasses in Chicago that would be textbook definitions of 'dank' LOL
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You are spreading blatant misinformation: bKL is the Architect of Record.
This doesn't mean that they are responsible for the design. It doesn't matter who hired the structural engineers contractually, etc. It was solely Studio Gang who designed the building and was responsible for the lack of shear along with the engineering consultant.

bKL is responsible for the CD's and had absolutely nothing to do with the form making of the project.
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The curve really works to open up the space and make it seem bigger. It's like an illusion / psychological thing.
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Sorry if I missed it, but what is taking so long with that unfinished corner at the top?
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wow coming in from the northwest Vista certainly helps fill in that gap between the peaks of 875 N. Michigan and 400 N. Wabash, One Chicago will add to our new mountain range!
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Sorry if I missed it, but what is taking so long with that unfinished corner at the top?
I was thinking the same thing. Maybe windy conditions over the past couple weeks, but would have thought they would have worked multiple areas simultaneously to get this building enclosed especially after all the troubles with the glass from the beginning.
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looks like they added a few floors yesterday. before that last floor added was Nov 7
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Pics for the underpass to the riverwalk. Haven't seen any work done in the last few days. Looks like they are ready to open this part when everything else opens.





I wish this opening was at least double the height it currently is.
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It does feel rather cramped.
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And what’s up with those two random black pipes?
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They're bounded by lower wacker above. This was maximum height. I think the swoop works well. An attempt at enhancing the vertical. It would be a total troll cave if it was just that low opening.
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It does feel rather cramped.
Keep in mind this is basically a cut thru under the building not a main entrance.
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Old Posted Nov 18, 2020, 4:02 PM
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^ Exactly. I'm wondering if some of the commentors know what they are looking at--that's not the Wacker Drive cut through that cars will be passing though regularly. This is literally the lowest level of the complex--a simple tunnel connecting the Chicago riverwalk to the Lakeshore East neighborhood.

It's more than tall enough for passengers, vehicles, etc. I don't think pictures give justice to the true ceiling height if you were walking through there in person.
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