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Old Posted Jul 12, 2024, 5:44 PM
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If you were to wave a magic wand and have all this work completed, we would now live in a world where San Fran, Sacramento, LA, San Diego, and Las Vegas are all connected by HSR. Looking at the map, I struggle to see another city that makes sense to connect to this system via further expansion. Does anyone see the system moving further beyond the existing cities?
It'd be cool to see HSR connect to Palm Springs/Coachella Valley. From there, I guess it could theoretically get extended to Phoenix, but that might be pushing it a bit given the distance and literal nothingness in between the low desert CA cities and Phoenix.
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Old Posted Jul 12, 2024, 5:56 PM
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^ Would be nice to be able to access the Coachella Valley via rail. Probably could be handled via electrification and expansion of Metrolink.
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Old Posted Jul 12, 2024, 6:11 PM
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I think continuing HSR up the Valley Subdivision would be good and service the population centers. It could end in Redding and link up with HSR in Oregon if they ever have plans on doing it for the PNW. Electrifying the other lines that aren't upgraded to HSR would be a good trade-off.
There's the ROW along 5 too, but again the same issue is there's just not as many population centers.
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Old Posted Jul 12, 2024, 6:17 PM
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I think continuing HSR up the Valley Subdivision would be good and service the population centers. It could end in Redding and link up with HSR in Oregon if they ever have plans on doing it for the PNW. Electrifying the other lines that aren't upgraded to HSR would be a good trade-off.
There's the ROW along 5 too, but again the same issue is there's just not as many population centers.
That makes sense. If the PNW were to create a HSR connecting Vancouver to Portland we could eventually link that up with CAHSR.
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Old Posted Jul 12, 2024, 10:50 PM
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The plan is for one-seat rides from Union Station to Las Vegas if/when they ever build the section from Union Station to Palmdale.
Very cool! Thanks for the information. The last time I checked, the Phase 2 alternatives between LA and San Diego are still very preliminary, but most went near Rancho Cucamonga, so I would imagine they will want to link the two systems there as well when the time comes.

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If you were to wave a magic wand and have all this work completed, we would now live in a world where San Fran, Sacramento, LA, San Diego, and Las Vegas are all connected by HSR. Looking at the map, I struggle to see another city that makes sense to connect to this system via further expansion. Does anyone see the system moving further beyond the existing cities?
I recall that way back when Brightline was being planned as DesertXpress, the company was looking at the possibility of Vegas as a HSR hub. The basic concept was that, since ROW acquisition may be easier in the desert, or where the federal gov. owns the land, Vegas is well positioned to offer possible extentions to Phoenix and even SLC. I don't know if this is still Brightline's plan though.

It makes me curious what an LA to Phoenix travel time linking through Vegas would be. A southern route out of San Diego would be more direct, but I bet would have some serious engineering challenges. It's possible Brightline could complete a Vegas to Phoenix link much sooner.
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Old Posted Jul 15, 2024, 2:55 PM
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If you were to wave a magic wand and have all this work completed, we would now live in a world where San Fran, Sacramento, LA, San Diego, and Las Vegas are all connected by HSR. Looking at the map, I struggle to see another city that makes sense to connect to this system via further expansion. Does anyone see the system moving further beyond the existing cities?
HSR to Tahoe/Reno would be fantastic, or as fast as you could get in the mountains. It would require a lot of tunneling.
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