Winnipeg Roads & Infrastructure - Page 290

YWG-RO · #**5781** Posted **Jul 27, 2021, 10:58 PM**

Roadworks on SB Henderson between McLeod and Leighton finishing up.

Good news: the crosswalk is replaced by a traffic signal. I’m very happy to see this as pedestrians have been killed here.

Bad news: the new traffic signal has 5, yes 5, lights both SB and NB. Most traffic signals along Henderson have 2 lights, some 3, and Chief Peguis 4. Five seems a bit over the top.

Are there any other traffic signals in Winnipeg with this many lights?

Eric19 · #**5782** Posted **Jul 28, 2021, 12:16 AM**

I believe the intersection at Kenaston and Sterling Lyons have 6 sets of lights on one side (technically 9 if you count the ones for the dedicated right hand turn) but that is also a huge intersection.

bomberjet · #**5783** Posted **Jul 28, 2021, 12:52 PM**

It sounds like a pedestrian half signal. Same as what is in place at Main and Assiniboine, for example. There are 5 traffic light heads going north there as well. Only 2 going south though.

bomberjet · #**5784** Posted **Jul 28, 2021, 12:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by Spocket

Yeah, I don't know why I forgot about that fact. Ha ha.

That being said, does anybody have any idea how they're going to configure the mess? I mean, the sensible thing would be to just have it all go straight over the tracks and continue on as Plessis but I guess that's not going to happen.

We chatted about this recently. Even drew up some plans, maybe in this thread. Seems like limited options. And there is an industrial park going in on the north side of Fermor at Plessis. They've already started site works. Really hoops the Cities chances over there. They'd likely have to push further east through some of the businesses.

Spocket · #**5785** Posted **Jul 28, 2021, 10:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by bomberjet

We chatted about this recently. Even drew up some plans, maybe in this thread. Seems like limited options. And there is an industrial park going in on the north side of Fermor at Plessis. They've already started site works. Really hoops the Cities chances over there. They'd likely have to push further east through some of the businesses.

Ah, right. I thought that that was just hopes and prayers. I guess it still is.

bomberjet · #**5786** Posted **Jul 29, 2021, 3:04 PM**

Just hopes and prayers haha.. The City had planned a ring road study starting 3 years ago. But it's been pushed back indefinitely.

LilZebra · #**5787** Posted **Aug 21, 2021, 1:20 PM**

On my way to Seven Oaks Hosp. for dialysis I travel via taxi along
Sturgeon Rd. Some place north of Portage is what appears to be a roundabout intersection, except its not. I dont know what street this is due to my poor eyesight.

Why was that intersection designed that way? Its weird.

esquire · #**5788** Posted **Aug 21, 2021, 2:15 PM**

^ Sounds like the junction of Sturgeon, Silver and Murray Park. They turned it into a traffic circle some years back, like maybe 10 years ago. I'm not sure why, maybe too many collisions there?

Lars65 · #**5789** Posted **Aug 21, 2021, 9:31 PM**

It's an intersection that gets heavy traffic at particular times of the day due to nearby factories shifts. Flows much better now.

bomberjet · #**5790** Posted **Aug 23, 2021, 7:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by LilZebra

On my way to Seven Oaks Hosp. for dialysis I travel via taxi along
Sturgeon Rd. Some place north of Portage is what appears to be a roundabout intersection, except its not. I dont know what street this is due to my poor eyesight.

Why was that intersection designed that way? Its weird.

It's a round about with a bypass lane for the EB to NB route.

LilZebra · #**5791** Posted **Aug 26, 2021, 1:15 PM**

I was just laying diwn for a nap and "Sault St. Marie" word phrase came into my mind. A minute later I see in my mind's eye a lift bridge with black girders. The image appeared for a split second. Doing a YouTube search, I found what I think I remote viewed just a few minutes ago...

• Video Link

Which got me thinking...

I remember, decades ago, in the late 1960s and 70s, Winnipewg had a lift bridge somewhere, at the old Provencher or another Bridge. Does anyone remember it?

esquire · #**5792** Posted **Aug 26, 2021, 1:41 PM**

^ I don't recall Winnipeg having a lift bridge like the one in the Soo, but there is one in Selkirk. I'm not sure about its operational status, though.

cheswick · #**5793** Posted **Aug 26, 2021, 2:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by LilZebra

I was just laying diwn for a nap and "Sault St. Marie" word phrase came into my mind. A minute later I see in my mind's eye a lift bridge with black girders. The image appeared for a split second. Doing a YouTube search, I found what I think I remote viewed just a few minutes ago...

• Video Link

Which got me thinking...

I remember, decades ago, in the late 1960s and 70s, Winnipewg had a lift bridge somewhere, at the old Provencher or another Bridge. Does anyone remember it?

Provencher was a draw bridge, not quite the same.

I believe the old rail bridge that's now a pedestrian bridge at the forks was a lift bridge as well, but I believe it's the same style as the above.

bomberjet · #**5794** Posted **Aug 26, 2021, 2:22 PM**

The one at the forks is also a type of draw bridge, I believe. It only lifted one side, by moving the big weight up or down. I could be wrong though.

https://www.winnipegarchitecture.ca/...ailway-bridge/

The article says it rumoured to never have been lifted.

http://www.mhs.mb.ca/docs/sites/liftbridge.shtml
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bascule_bridge

LilZebra · #**5795** Posted **Aug 26, 2021, 4:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by cheswick

Provencher was a draw bridge, not quite the same.

Yeah, that's the one.

Used to have signage to the side of tghe road saying wgen the bridge would raise.

cllew · #**5796** Posted **Aug 26, 2021, 7:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by bomberjet

The one at the forks is also a type of draw bridge, I believe. It only lifted one side, by moving the big weight up or down. I could be wrong though.

https://www.winnipegarchitecture.ca/...ailway-bridge/

The article says it rumoured to never have been lifted.

http://www.mhs.mb.ca/docs/sites/liftbridge.shtml
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bascule_bridge

If nothing else I would have thought that CN's B&B department would have run it from time to time just to make sure it did work in case there was a real need to open it.

bomberjet · #**5797** Posted **Aug 26, 2021, 7:47 PM**

It also said the other bridge to the west, I presume what is the main track bridge, also had the same counterweight, etc. But it was taken down long ago.

However, I also believe there was at least one other bridge located between the 2 current bridges.

I wonder if someone has ever compiled all the old bridge locations onto a map. There has been a lot in the downtown forks area.

esquire · #**5798** Posted **Aug 26, 2021, 8:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by bomberjet

It also said the other bridge to the west, I presume what is the main track bridge, also had the same counterweight, etc. But it was taken down long ago.

Do you mean this one, to the east?

Luisito · #**5799** Posted **Aug 31, 2021, 5:49 PM**

When is work on the southern perimeter going to start or has it already? I thought they were supposed to start this year.

bomberjet · #**5800** Posted **Aug 31, 2021, 5:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by esquire

Do you mean this one, to the east?

Ya it might've said to the east. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Luisito

When is work on the southern perimeter going to start or has it already? I thought they were supposed to start this year.

There's still 3 months left.

I believe MI is still working with the design-build consortiums on the bids. Which IIRC were due Septemberish.

We discussed the only likely work this year will be possibly construction detours and staging type works. To get ready for structures work over the winter. Real roadworks won't start until next spring.

They'll still be working on final designs once the contract is awarded. At this stage they're only in the 30% -60% design level. Enough to cost out somewhat accurately.