EV Revolution!

canucklehead2 · #1 Posted **Jan 21, 2020, 10:36 PM**

Unless I am blind and couldn't use the search function properly there isn't a proper Electric Vehicle thread yet so I thought I'd start one. Who here has one? Who here wants one? Anyone drive or sit in one yet? I have a Smart Fortwo myself, but unfortunately it's not an electric edition, it's the limited Cdi edition that sold well in Canada for two years. My next car will be an electric and probably a used Smart Fortwo EV that seems to be flooding the used EV car market in Canada such as it is...

In the meantime, here's a very cool link showing all the EV car sales for the last year... https://insideevs.com/news/343998/mo...les-scorecard/

canucklehead2 · #2 Posted **Jan 22, 2020, 5:08 PM**

So will this be the car that turns the masses onto electric cars? This is the official rendering of the next to be built Tesla, the Model 2, which will be designed and built at Gigafactory 3 in Shanghai for the Chinese and global markets. The target price? $25,000 USD which is the "average" MSRP price of a car in the USA. Would you buy it? I sure would!

https://thedriven.io/2020/01/17/tesl...d-in-china-ev/

canucklehead2 · #3 Posted **Jan 22, 2020, 5:09 PM**

Published by https://thedriven.io/2020/01/17/tesl...d-in-china-ev/

canucklehead2 · #4 Posted **Jan 22, 2020, 5:51 PM**

Here is a constantly updated list of all the EV's available for sale in Canada https://www.caa.ca/electric-vehicles...ble-in-canada/

canucklehead2 · #5 Posted **Jan 23, 2020, 6:50 PM**

Some EV news headlines of the day... https://edmontonjournal.com/transpor...4-1e1e1dfcf346

Petro-Canada has finished it's network connecting 2 of Canada's 3 oceans with EV fast chargers...
https://mobilesyrup.com/2019/12/18/p...rging-network/

Meanwhile Canadian Tire is just launching theirs albeit with $2.7M of federal tax dollars... https://www.canada.ca/en/natural-res...-networks.html

They promise 300 stops by 2021...

Credit: Postmedia Driving

canucklehead2 · #6 Posted **Jan 23, 2020, 6:52 PM**

Petro Canada Supercharger network as of 2019. Edmonton once again gets the Joan Collins Special...

Credit: Insideevs.com

https://insideevs.com/news/389412/pe...rging-network/

canucklehead2 · #7 Posted **Jan 23, 2020, 6:55 PM**

A current indicator of the size of the Canadian EV market. It's tiny granted that between 1.6-2.0 million passenger vehicles are bought every year in Canada and virtually an equal number built here as well (until the GM Canada closure of last year) but it's still showing year over year growth and the start of the famed S curve sales trend...

Credit: EMC.CA https://emc-mec.ca/new/ev-sales-in-canada-q2-2019/

canucklehead2 · #8 Posted **Jan 23, 2020, 6:58 PM**

Another interesting takeaway?

10% of car sales in BC are ZEV now
07% of car sales in Quebec are ZEV now
3.5% of car sales in Canada are ZEV now

Not bad for the second-coldest nation on earth!

accord1999 · #9 Posted **Jan 23, 2020, 7:38 PM**

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Not bad for the second-coldest nation on earth!

Temperatures don't matter as much as available subsidies.

canucklehead2 · #10 Posted **Jan 23, 2020, 7:59 PM**

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Temperatures don't matter as much as available subsidies.

Truth. The recent prairie cold snap Tesla stories proved that!
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saska...ries-1.5429665
Thankfully Canada is now offering a national tax credit so even those in the "EV sticks" aka the other 7 provinces and 3 territories now have a small incentive to go electric... NB was one of the first to see their sales take off from single digits to several hundred. It's small but it's a start...

canucklehead2 · #11 Posted **Jan 23, 2020, 10:49 PM**

Worldwide plug in sales as of 2019...

Tesla Model 3 dominates global sales. No surprise there...

All images from Insideevs.com https://insideevs.com/news/379582/gl...eptember-2019/

F1 Tommy · #12 Posted **Jan 23, 2020, 11:20 PM**

So how exactly are EV's stopping climate change? The battery production pollution for every EV is more than running an average ICE vehicle for 3-4 years. Ignoring that is ignoring reality at this point in time. They need more time, a lot more time to design an inexpensive battery that actually is green.

canucklehead2 · #13 Posted **Jan 23, 2020, 11:30 PM**

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So how exactly are EV's stopping climate change? The battery production pollution for every EV is more than running an average ICE vehicle for 3-4 years. Ignoring that is ignoring reality at this point in time. They need more time, a lot more time to design an inexpensive battery that actually is green.

Would love to see your stats proving your obvious trolling theory... Links please...

F1 Tommy · #14 Posted **Jan 23, 2020, 11:39 PM**

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Would love to see your stats proving your obvious trolling theory... Links please...

Just to show you how easy it is to find I link the first article on Google. This is a simple article. Not trolling. Just making sure you know the facts. EV is a good idea but saving the world with it is not happening yet. It will take years of development.

https://www.wired.com/2016/03/teslas...t-green-think/

canucklehead2 · #15 Posted **Jan 23, 2020, 11:45 PM**

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Just to show you how easy it is to find I link the first article on Google. This is a simple article. Not trolling. Just making sure you know the facts. EV is a good idea but saving the world with it is not happening yet. It will take years of development.

https://www.wired.com/2016/03/teslas...t-green-think/

One article from 2016 with specious reasoning and pseudo-science. Are you sure you aren't on the payroll of Friends of Science?

https://www.fleetcarma.com/long-tail...ment-debunked/

https://5vtj648dfk323byvjb7k1e9w-wpe...ty-used....gif

Credit to fleet Karma

As for the heavy and precious metals? The battery chemistry is changing all the time. The fact that these cars have a longer lifespan alone never mind 1/5th the energy use is reason enough to switch. Never mind the zero tailpipe emissions and the fact that EVEN if it were all produced from coal power the worst you can say it it would be a statistical wash...

F1 Tommy · #16 Posted **Jan 23, 2020, 11:48 PM**

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One article from 2016 with specious reasoning and pseudo-science. Are you sure you aren't on the payroll of Friends of Science?

https://www.fleetcarma.com/long-tail...ment-debunked/

https://5vtj648dfk323byvjb7k1e9w-wpe...ty-used....gif

Credit to fleet Karma

As for the heavy and precious metals? The battery chemistry is changing all the time. The fact that these cars have a longer lifespan alone never mind 1/5th the energy use is reason enough to switch. Never mind the zero tailpipe emissions and the fact that EVEN if it were all produced from coal power the worst you can say it it would be a statistical wash...

Not much has changed since 2016 with battery production, and that was a quick Google search. You really need to look into it more closely. They now have the technology but it is expensive and not being used in any electric vehicles yet.

canucklehead2 · #17 Posted **Jan 23, 2020, 11:50 PM**

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Not much has changed since 2016 with battery production, and that was a quick Google search. You really need to look into it more closely.

More brainwashing bullshit lies from climate denial dipshits? No thanks and slag off...

F1 Tommy · #18 Posted **Jan 23, 2020, 11:52 PM**

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More brainwashing bullshit lies from climate denial dipshits? No thanks and slag off...

Typical. Don't want to agree so run down the person telling you the truth.

canucklehead2 · #19 Posted **Jan 23, 2020, 11:55 PM**

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Typical. Don't want to agree so run down the person telling you the truth.

"Truth"? You showed one old Wired magazine article. Hardly proof of anything. I asked for science. I showed science. You showed me your bias. Goodbye.

canucklehead2 · #20 Posted **Jan 23, 2020, 11:56 PM**

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Typical. Don't want to agree so run down the person telling you the truth.

Typical snowflake too. Always a victim even when trolling others with false news, disinformation and lies. All you tell me is to do more research. Riiiiighhhht. You also didn't answer my change of climate change denialism so that also speaks for itself...