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Old Posted Jun 26, 2019, 6:46 PM
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With the issue of the north runway and the gate cap settled, I wish LAWA would've devised a long-term plan to rebuild the entire airport from scratch.
Why? There is not much to gain from building something from scratch. The biggest problem with LAX is the vehicle access points and that is being addressed with APM and access points outside the horseshoe. After Delta is finished with rebuilding T2 and T3 and American is finished with rebuilding T4 and T5, we will end up with basically three mostly brand new linear terminals - north, south, TBIT and annex.

Plus we can't shut down LAX for years while they raze and rebuild.
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Old Posted Jun 26, 2019, 8:34 PM
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Why rebuild? Because the facilities are inadequate for the amount of passengers they serve. It’s nice that you can get from curb to gate in 15-20 minutes, but that also translates into cramped spaces. What was great about the Master Plan from 2005 was that it had bold vision—creating a new drop-off/pick-up zone off-site, shutting down the entire CTA to private vehicles, and replacing the parking garages with terminal space.

Also, “brand new terminals” is a stretch. They only plan on rebuilding T3, as far as I know. But with the MSC, T0, and T9 (at least 33 new gates total) coming, there might eventually be the flexibility to shut down terminals and rebuild. I could easily see UA moving their base operations to T9 and then knocking down and replacing T7 and T8 with essentially an extension of T9.
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Old Posted Sep 15, 2020, 3:27 PM
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LAX people-mover

LAX PEOPLE MOVER PROJECT ELEVATED GUIDEWAY MOVES FORWARD WITH FIRST CONCRETE PLACEMENT


Sept. 14, 2020


A view of the guideway after the concrete was placed. (Image courtesy of LAWA)


The 10-hour concrete placement began Friday, Sept. 11 and was completed Saturday, Sept. 12. (Image courtesy of LAWA)


"This past weekend, concrete was placed for the first segment of the 2.25 mile elevated guideway of the Automated People Mover (APM) project at Los Angeles International Airport (LAX). Work on the guideway segment, which is located due west of the future Intermodal Transportation Facility (ITF)-West station near 96th Street and Vicksburg Avenue, was enabled by the prior erection of falsework and assembly of formwork into which the reinforcement bar and concrete was placed.

"Our vision for LAX is taking shape and the changing landscape serves as a reminder that our future remains bright," said Justin Erbacci, Chief Executive Officer, Los Angeles World Airports (LAWA). "We are reimagining every step of the airport journey, and now can start to see how our Automated People Mover train will provide an exciting new way for our guests and employees to get to and from LAX.”

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Old Posted Sep 16, 2020, 9:52 PM
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You can follow live construction view on the LAWA webcam

https://public.earthcam.net/tJ90CoLm..._garage/view_1
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Old Posted Nov 8, 2020, 12:08 AM
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This, along with the MSC, would bring the total gate count (not including remote gates) to 166. For comparison, ORD has 191 and ATL 195. But LAX has fewer aircraft movements (landings and takeoffs) than those two airports since it's not nearly as much of a regional transfer hub, so a smaller gate count shouldn't matter. A 34% increase in total gates should go a long way toward creating more passenger space per capita.

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LAX Expansion Plan Takes a Step Forward

New passenger gates and people mover stop could be buit in phases through 2028

Construction could begin by the end of 2021 on the initial phases of an expansion project which could bring new passenger gates to Los Angeles International Airport.

The LAX Airfield and Terminal Modernization Project, according to an environmental study published on October 29 by Los Angeles World Airports, calls for an extension of Terminal 1 onto an adjoining surface parking lot. The proposed L-shaped structure, called Concourse 0, would include 11 new passenger gates along the west side of Sepulveda Boulevard.

On the south side of the airport "horseshoe," LAWA has proposed a new Terminal 9, which would be located across Sepulveda Boulevard from the central terminal area. The new building would include 12 passenger gates for international and domestic travel.

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This, along with the MSC, would bring the total gate count (not including remote gates) to 166. For comparison, ORD has 191 and ATL 195. But LAX has fewer aircraft movements (landings and takeoffs) than those two airports since it's not nearly as much of a regional transfer hub, so a smaller gate count shouldn't matter. A 34% increase in total gates should go a long way toward creating more passenger space per capita.



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Are you including MSC South or just North?

Also American is likely to add 3 or 4 gates to T4/5 when they rebuild those two terminals.
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Here are some excellent photos of LAX's new midfield concourse.

https://liveandletsfly.com/lax-midfi...ite-concourse/
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Are you including MSC South or just North?

Also American is likely to add 3 or 4 gates to T4/5 when they rebuild those two terminals.
Actually, just MSC North, not South.
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New People Mover train coming to LAX expected to revolutionize travel

The train guideway is 2.75 miles in length and about 75% complete. LAX officials said it will make traveling more efficient.

By Ashley Mackey
Friday, October 15, 2021

"WESTCHESTER, LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- The Automated People Mover (APM) train at Los Angeles International Airport is over 50%complete and on track to open in 2023. The train will connect travelers directly to airport terminals along with passenger pick-up and drop-off locations outside the central terminal area.

"The Automated People Mover train is something that is going to help us to revolutionize the way people access our Los Angeles World Airport facilities," said Justin Erbacci, chief executive officer of Los Angeles World Airports (LAWA).

Airport officials think the train along with other aspects of the modernization project will have a great impact. The train will also connect with L.A. Metro's Light Rail System and LAX's new rental car facility which will be able to hold 18,000 cars..."

https://abc7.com/lax-construction-tr...port/11129748/
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Here are a couple of photos of the LAX automated people mover, courtesy of LAWA's web cam this week.











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^Moving along nicely, thanks for sharing! I wonder when they plan to connect the portion above Sepulveda together, and if that will require a closure of Sepulveda for some period of time.
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Gorgeous pics!!! The quicker the people mover & corresponding headhouses completes, the quicker they can move LAXit into the multimodal facility and begin work on T1 Concourse 0 (T0) and T9. United/Star Alliance is waiting…

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Terminal 1.5 opened earlier this year. It adds more baggage claim carousels, ticketing desks, and of course a connection to the future people mover.

The headhouse or "terminal core" is what I wish all of LAX's concourses would look like — tall ceilings, high-quality materials, and lots of natural light. Minimalist and timeless. Since LAX doesn't have the ability to demolish entire terminals like other airports, it's in LAWA's best interest to spend more on evergreen designs that will age well. The only renovations you would need to make are flooring, bathrooms, mechanical, and signage.


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Gorgeous pics!!! The quicker the people mover & corresponding headhouses completes, the quicker they can move LAXit into the multimodal facility and begin work on T1 Concourse 0 (T0) and T9. United/Star Alliance is waiting…
And once T0, T9, and the MSC South are built, then we can start talking about demoing T4-T8 (not all at once, obviously).
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And once T0, T9, and the MSC South are built, then we can start talking about demoing T4-T8 (not all at once, obviously).
Great pics of T1.5. I was in there a few months ago and its gorgeous. Actually, Delta and American are building terminal cores like this that will be the center of their operations. Much like how Delta will have a central area between 2&3 for security and check in, American is also having a central area between T4&5. It's almost like there won't be a terminal 2/3 because it will be one terminal with 2 concourses. Same with T4/5; they will be one terminal for American with 2 concourses.

To address above, American is planning on major renovations to T4 like what Delta is doing with T3. It won't be recognizable when complete. What is still unclear is United's plans for T7/8 as they've been on a holding pattern until they get confirmation on T9 and Star Alliance having priority over the new international terminal.
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T2 and T5 concourses will remain as existing, while the current T3 and T4 concourses will be rebuilt. I welcome any and all upgrades, but I don’t like this “Frankenstein” approach.
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I want our concourses to look like this (Barcelona airport's T1)...


https://images.adsttc.com/media/imag...jpg?1441308289

... which also give thought to how the structure looks above:


https://aviogeek.com/news/barcelona-...terminal-2026/
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The entire concourse should've looked like this:


https://liveandletsfly.com/lax-midfi...ite-concourse/
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