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Old Posted Oct 2, 2013, 9:13 PM
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Original house on Bullock's Wilshire site

Apparently, this was the house that originally stood on the Wilshire Blvd site that later became the Bullock's Wilshire store. As big a fan as I am of that building, it's a shame we had to lose this one to make way for it. But I guess, at some point, it was inevitable, huh?



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Old Posted Oct 2, 2013, 9:23 PM
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The New Republique on LaBrea

Always great to see original architecture resurrected...

And yeah, I'm still only up to page 520, living a year in the past...taking my sweet time.

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624 S La Brea known as Campanile of late.

1928

According to the LA Times, Chef Walter Manzke's new Republique is set to open mid-October at 624 S. LaBrea, with a restored facade and courtyard area. Beautiful! The features were all still there under the Campanile glass roof - so it never really disappeared - it has just been reaerated.

"Walter said he worked with architect Osvaldo Maiozzi on the design, which was mainly to open the space while keeping the original architecture intact (built by Charlie Chaplin as an office complex in 1929). Much of the wood was shipped from the Philippines and is of the same age as the rest of the building, and the bar stools are being made by Walter's brother."


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Old Posted Oct 2, 2013, 9:29 PM
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I forgot to post this earlier

ebay

I really liked that 1927 photograph you posted of the Elysian Monument HossC.
I noticed it was labeled "Fremont Entrance to Elysian Park". Is Fremont now Meadow Road? -or am I missing something?
(speaking of missing, the eagle is gone by 1927...now that's disappointing)

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Old Posted Oct 2, 2013, 9:53 PM
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I'm curious to know what happened to the base between the 1901 photographs and today. Where's the stone segment with the word Elysian carved into it? The base is much smaller than the base shown in the earlier photographs. I'm hoping someone can find a photograph from 1930s or 40s or 50s or 60s or....
The thin part of the base with the carved "Elysian Park" is still there, though crumbling to dust. It's just below frame on the Google Maps screenshot. I took a few pictures a month or so ago that I haven't scanned yet. The pyramid pedestal is either gone or underground however...in monument heaven chillin' with the eagle.
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Old Posted Oct 2, 2013, 9:55 PM
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Carl was well known around the movie studios for being difficult to work with. Sadly, his life after the Our Gang series was difficult at best.



AP wirephoto - MGM Culver City

More in prior posts:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=2423

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http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=2425
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I really liked that 1927 photograph you posted of the Elysian Monument HossC.
I noticed it was labeled "Fremont Entrance to Elysian Park". Is Fremont now Meadow Road? -or am I missing something?
I just copied the name from the USC photo. A little more digging and I came across the 1910 and 1921 Baist maps below. The road names and layouts change a bit in 11 years, but "Fremont Gate" is shown on both. There is also an area to the left of the "ELYSIAN PARK" name on each map that's marked "Fremont Gate Terrace":

1910

http://www.historicmapworks.com

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Old Posted Oct 2, 2013, 10:03 PM
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Thanks for the information HossC, so Fremont Gate is labeled both as a road (Meadow Road now), and as parcels of land at N Broadway and Casanova. Interesting stuff!
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I found this photo on an old cd of mine.



I googled it and referenced it back to this site. http://www.radiocityhollywood.com/

Does anyone know the original purpose of this building...even before it's KECA days?
Could it possibly have been a fire station? (note the three arched doors fronting the street)
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Familiar building?

I assume the original occupants were in the '30s photo, but haven't confirmed that via directories or other sources.

The building's original design was deceptively simple with arches (roof tiles and facade) and arches and bevels for windows and doors.

I also assume that most ornamental ironwork primarily served a decorative function. But it also projected security. With the small window sizes, who knows what was behind them? Functioning offices or glorified storage? Interesting to note the how the front arched windows morphed into solid glass brick and may now even sport security bars in front of the glass. This is probably not a decorative element, although it may provide a place to tether a visiting horse and carriage or secure a shopping cart.

Some more info on 1440 N. Highland and its original use:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=10021
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Old Posted Oct 2, 2013, 10:22 PM
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According to the LA Times, Chef Walter Manzke's new Republique is set to open mid-October at 624 S. LaBrea, with a restored facade and courtyard area. Beautiful! The features were all still there under the Campanile glass roof - so it never really disappeared -
This is great news Sonny_LA, so they're opening up the courtyard again.


from this

www.kevineats.com



back to this (hopefully).

http://blogs.laweekly.com/squidink/2...nt_closing.php
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-right now, it's difficult to even see into courtyard because of this modern addition.

http://tastertotsla.com/2011/08/16/c...a-los-angeles/

I realize the blinds are drawn, but I still despise it (more so because it's tacked onto a historic structure).
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Old Posted Oct 2, 2013, 10:26 PM
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Apparently, this was the house that originally stood on the Wilshire Blvd site that later became the Bullock's Wilshire store. As big a fan as I am of that building, it's a shame we had to lose this one to make way for it. But I guess, at some point, it was inevitable, huh?



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Well, there were actually hundreds if not a thousand of just this sort of house in the Wilshire District--the McMansion of its day. A few were moved west as Wilshire commercialized; many survive in the corridor (the ladies of the WCTU own one similar to the one in your picture on Kingsley Drive) and in West Adams. This particular house was built in the spring of 1907 for manufacturer Albert R. Maines and designed by architects Oliver Dennis & Lyman Farwell. Maines sold it three years later to "Oil Queen" Emma Summers. The house was demolished for Bullock's-Wilshire, which opened on the boulevard blockfront between Wilshire Place and Westmoreland Avenue in September 1929.

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Here's a partial view of 655 Wilshire Place at the end of the line (at right)--the Wilshire Special lamps went up in 1928 (more or less), the same year construction on B-W began.

BifRayRock posted this pic before here in a group--also shots of the excavation and construction of B-W--but they didn't come up readily using our handy-dandy search feature.

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I just made a quick visit to 624 S. LaBrea in the google-mobile.

-it looks like the campanile could use a coat of paint too.

GSV

I bet GW would like to take a chainsaw to that tree.
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Old Posted Oct 2, 2013, 10:59 PM
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The thin part of the base with the carved "Elysian Park" is still there, though crumbling to dust. It's just below frame on the Google Maps screenshot. I took a few pictures a month or so ago that I haven't scanned yet. The pyramid pedestal is either gone or underground.
Now that's interesting, I thought the lettering was long gone.
Do you have a scanner? (hint hint.)
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I bet GW would like to take a chainsaw to that tree.
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LATimes Jan 11, 1935


I can find very little info on the curiously named Kalifornia Kiddie Kollege that was in several locations in L.A. during the noir era, including in the house at 3741 West 27th Street from 1933-37. This being only a decade after the heyday of another, better-known KKK, surely this was not a little training ground of some sort....? At best, it seems kind of clueless to have named anything that would have the initials KKK--and who would have actually wanted to send a child to a school with such a dopey misspelled name? Apparently some people did--the school was in San Bernardino in the '50s.

LAHistory

I just finished a story about 3741 West 27th--a very interesting house nearly 100 years old, even if nothing particularly noirish appears to have occurred there. There are quite a few internet entries insisting that Jack Dempsey lived in the house--but he didn't. Two very interesting families did, though. And until recently it was the home of Father Flanagan's Boys' Home. It became Los Angeles Historic=Cultural Monument #990 in October 2010.

If you happen to want to read more... http://losangeleshistory.blogspot.co...-also-see.html

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Well, there were actually hundreds if not a thousand of just this sort of house in the Wilshire District--the McMansion of its day. A few were moved west as Wilshire commercialized; many survive in the corridor (the ladies of the WCTU own one similar to the one in your picture on Kingsley Drive) and in West Adams. This particular house was built in the spring of 1907 for manufacturer Albert R. Maines and designed by architects Oliver Dennis & Lyman Farwell. Maines sold it three years later to "Oil Queen" Emma Summers. The house was demolished for Bullock's-Wilshire, which opened on the boulevard blockfront between Wilshire Place and Westmoreland Avenue in September 1929.

USCDL
Here's a partial view of 655 Wilshire Place at the end of the line (at right)--the Wilshire Special lamps went up in 1928 (more or less), the same year construction on B-W began.

BifRayRock posted this pic before here in a group--also shots of the excavation and construction of B-W--but they didn't come up readily using our handy-dandy search feature.


I was just looking at those remarkable photos. Lately I must admit to becoming spoiled by all of the enlarged higher resolution images and was wishing these BW photos were even bigger and more detailed. http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...ostcount=13620 The whole page is plastered with nice construction shots. http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show....php?p=6072083 But if you are looking for random Wilshire Blvd (east of Miracle Mile) I'd consider going back to page 615 or earlier http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...70279&page=615 and looking at GW's excellent Wilshire residential writeup: http://wilshireboulevardhouses.blogspot.com/

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...KV1CEX8P39.jpg



Speaking of detail.


Vermont Ave - from page 615.






USC Digital

USC Digital



If those pics pique anyone's interest, could someone find a way of posting a complete enlarged high resolution version of the related panorama (below)? Previous effort did not do it justice! (post 13540)
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...id/72276/rec/6


Incomplete low resolution version:
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But let's be honest: Venture a mile or two outside DTLA and you ARE in Plisskin-ville.
Yes, you've made the same point many, many times. Have it your way.
I agree, this type of thing sure does get tedious.
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1935 - McDonnell's Drive In (Could it be same Beverly and La Brea location? Probably not, unless different perspective or remodel.)http://lh5.ggpht.com/-3F1QgnhcWUA/Rl.../art%20639.jpg


Nice vibrant photo, BifRayRock. I like the art deco building and signage -very mid 1930s.

Club breakfast -Quick Service in your car. LOL. Wonder what a Club Breakfast was? Hope it wasn't something too messy. Would not like to try eating a Full English Breakfast in my car...sounds like a challenge for valeting products (bacon grease, fried egg, ketchups etc). Milk wouldn't be that great either....

Shoestring potatoes? Haven't heard this term before. Are these the same as "French Fries"?

Wonder what happened to McDonnell's -was this a chain in pre war L.A.?

Thanks

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McDonnell's history can be found here, includes a menu.

Shoestring potatoes are very thin French Fries. Hope that helps.
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I was reminded of a post of Godzilla's on the church in the background at Fourth and New Hampshire: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=12341.


Looks like miniature golf on the sw Vermont & 4th corner....
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I was reminded of a post of Godzilla's on the church in the background at Fourth and New Hampshire: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=12341.


Looks like miniature golf on the sw Vermont & 4th corner....

More of the "Caliente Golf Park" here: http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...ostcount=12289


I was intrigued by the night photos of the area (which could also benefit from some computer enlarging magic): http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/17856/rec/2





Notice how the time lapse captured the traffic light. Should I stay or should I go - now?









Can Noir be Garish too? Oxymoronic ?



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Our Man Flint.


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"Frank Putnam Flint played a major political role in bringing Owens Valley water to metropolitan Los Angeles"

Now I understand why Senator Flint was memorialized with a water fountain instead of a statue.
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-By the way, what is the modern building in the background? The wedge portion reminds me of the Metropolitan Correctional Center
in downtown Chicago.

seen here
http://chicagomodern.wordpress.com/2...tional-center/
That's the new LAPD HQ.
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