Canadian LRT/RT projects U/C - Page 117

Coldrsx · #**2321** Posted **Jul 19, 2021, 3:17 AM**

It's happening... it's really happening!

MCXavierL
https://edmonton.skyrisecities.com/f...6#post-1714330

craner · #**2322** Posted **Jul 19, 2021, 5:05 AM**

Meanwhile in Calgary, it looks like work will proceed on the “trendy” low-floor Green Line:
http://https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/after-much-delay-province-approves-calgarys-green-line-lrt-project

Coldrsx · #**2323** Posted **Jul 20, 2021, 4:34 AM**

Almost there at the west terminus of the Valley Line East.

https://twitter.com/uptown_one/statu...00005400580099

ClaytonA · #**2324** Posted **Jul 24, 2021, 3:52 PM**

Thanks for the Ottawa and YEG updates.

REM en Montréal c'est aussi du progrès: https://www.devisubox.com/dv/dv.php5...0Metropolitain

https://www.devisubox.com/dv/dv.php5...0Metropolitain

Make sure to browse the additional points of view.

Coldrsx · #**2325** Posted **Jul 31, 2021, 3:05 PM**

Testing the ascent/descent of Connors Hill.

Glenco on SRC
https://edmonton.skyrisecities.com/f...24534/page-130

Coldrsx · #**2326** Posted **Aug 15, 2021, 6:43 PM**

Tawatina LRT Bridge

Kaizen on SRC
https://edmonton.skyrisecities.com/f...24534/page-133

Chadillaccc · #**2327** Posted **Aug 16, 2021, 9:43 AM**

Not sure if I've posted this, but this is the final approved alignment for the Green Line Ctrain through the inner city.

- At-grade from 16 Avenue to Centre Street Bridge (16 Avenue North Station and 9 Avenue North Station)
- Elevated from Centre Street Bridge to Eau Claire
- Underground from Eau Claire to Elbow River (Eau Claire Station, 7 Avenue Station, Centre Street South Station, 4 Street East Station)
- Bridge over Elbow
- At-grade from Elbow to Inglewood
- Elevated from Inglewood to Highfield (Inglewood Station, 26 Avenue Station, Highfield Station)

Coldrsx · #**2328** Posted **Aug 18, 2021, 2:54 PM**

Closer

Gronk on SRC
https://edmonton.skyrisecities.com/f...24534/page-134

Martin Mtl · #**2329** Posted **Aug 18, 2021, 4:09 PM**

Edmonton downtown transformation is impressive.

Luisito · #**2330** Posted **Aug 18, 2021, 4:20 PM**

Winnipeg will have a metro area of a million within 10-15 years yet our transportation resembles that of a city of 100,000, no good rapid transit, no plans for cleaner more efficient rail. If I had better options I would use it but for now you need a car in this city.

J.OT13 · #**2331** Posted **Aug 18, 2021, 6:50 PM**

Corso Italia Station, a new infill urban station along the Trillium Line.

https://otrain.railfans.ca/snapshot-...august-15-2021

Walkley Station, another infill along Trillium.

https://otrain.railfans.ca/snapshot-...august-14-2021

Uplands Station along the Airport spur.

https://otrain.railfans.ca/snapshot-...-august-9-2021

swimmer_spe · #**2332** Posted **Aug 19, 2021, 12:17 AM**

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Originally Posted by Luisito

Winnipeg will have a metro area of a million within 10-15 years yet our transportation resembles that of a city of 100,000, no good rapid transit, no plans for cleaner more efficient rail. If I had better options I would use it but for now you need a car in this city.

How big was Ottawa before they started on something more than the original O-Train and Transitways?

esquire · #**2333** Posted **Aug 19, 2021, 12:24 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luisito

Winnipeg will have a metro area of a million within 10-15 years yet our transportation resembles that of a city of 100,000, no good rapid transit, no plans for cleaner more efficient rail. If I had better options I would use it but for now you need a car in this city.

Winnipeg Transit isn't bad, it's just that it's all in on buses. Usually once Canadian metros start creeping up to 1,000,000 population some form of rail transit enters the conversation, but for us that is not even on the radar. I just cracked 40, I'm still healthy, but I still don't expect to ride rail transit in this town in my lifetime.

Even our BRT is still very rudimentary even though it should be better by now if that's our chosen mode... in Winnipeg's case, the perfect is the enemy of the good when it comes to rapid transit.

J.OT13 · #**2334** Posted **Aug 19, 2021, 2:01 AM**

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Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

How big was Ottawa before they started on something more than the original O-Train and Transitways?

If we're considering the canceled 2006 plan, which was the first serious rail proposal, Ottawa proper had a population of 812,000 with a metro of 1.13 million. By the time the Confederation Line opened, Ottawa cracked the million, with a metro of 1.4 million.

swimmer_spe · #**2335** Posted **Aug 19, 2021, 3:01 AM**

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Originally Posted by J.OT13

If we're considering the canceled 2006 plan, which was the first serious rail proposal, Ottawa proper had a population of 812,000 with a metro of 1.13 million. By the time the Confederation Line opened, Ottawa cracked the million, with a metro of 1.4 million.

Winnipeg is sitting around 700,000. I am expecting that they will easily top 800,000 before any serious thought of an LRT happens. Would simply replacing their BRT routes with an LRT be enough?

thebasketballgeek · #**2336** Posted **Aug 19, 2021, 9:07 AM**

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Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

Winnipeg is sitting around 700,000. I am expecting that they will easily top 800,000 before any serious thought of an LRT happens. Would simply replacing their BRT routes with an LRT be enough?

Since our transit use doesn’t have very high demand the thought is too make the lines dedicated BRT, but the infrastructure can be converted to a LRT once the demand is “justified”.

The problem is that we only have 1 dedicated transit lane through SW Winnipeg that goes through a lot of uninhabited land for the idea of TOD to fill in medium-high density development instead of going through already occupied-Pembina. I don’t think this is a bad move like a lot of other people from the city because of the added density that will come from it. However, 25 years to complete this system is way too long and inefficient.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manit...tion-1.6007124

Although I do wonder once our CentrePort Project is more built out with the new rail yards if it’s feasible to use any of the heavy-rail infrastructure already in place for another form of transportation.

J.OT13 · #**2337** Posted **Aug 19, 2021, 12:29 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

Winnipeg is sitting around 700,000. I am expecting that they will easily top 800,000 before any serious thought of an LRT happens. Would simply replacing their BRT routes with an LRT be enough?

Of course, Ottawa went the conversion route for much of its Transitway system and Gatineau is already considering conversion of its own BRT, the RapiBus which opened in 2013, as the next stage of rail expansion after the Aylmer-Hull-Ottawa tram opens in 2028-2030.

J.OT13 · #**2338** Posted **Aug 19, 2021, 2:25 PM**

Trillium's future rolling stock (which will join the existing Alstom LINTs).

Quote:

Originally Posted by sseguin

Forgot some of the coolest pics J.OT13!

The Stadler FLIRTs in Switzerland!

https://otrain.railfans.ca/snapshot-...ugust-8-9-2021

swimmer_spe · #**2339** Posted **Aug 19, 2021, 2:38 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by thebasketballgeek

Since our transit use doesn’t have very high demand the thought is too make the lines dedicated BRT, but the infrastructure can be converted to a LRT once the demand is “justified”.

The problem is that we only have 1 dedicated transit lane through SW Winnipeg that goes through a lot of uninhabited land for the idea of TOD to fill in medium-high density development instead of going through already occupied-Pembina. I don’t think this is a bad move like a lot of other people from the city because of the added density that will come from it. However, 25 years to complete this system is way too long and inefficient.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manit...tion-1.6007124

Although I do wonder once our CentrePort Project is more built out with the new rail yards if it’s feasible to use any of the heavy-rail infrastructure already in place for another form of transportation.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/ed...6M&usp=sharing

If they could find a way to use the existing rail corridors Winnipeg could have s great system. The problem is whether there is enough space to do it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by J.OT13

Of course, Ottawa went the conversion route for much of its Transitway system and Gatineau is already considering conversion of its own BRT, the RapiBus which opened in 2013, as the next stage of rail expansion after the Aylmer-Hull-Ottawa tram opens in 2028-2030.

I look at Gatineau as a suburb of Ottawa, so their conversion aligns with the population size.

esquire · #**2340** Posted **Aug 19, 2021, 2:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

If they could find a way to use the existing rail corridors Winnipeg could have s great system. The problem is whether there is enough space to do it.

Very unlikely in the sense of building shared corridors. Even the existing SW BRT (aka the "Blue Line") was originally conceived as a route that would share the CN ROW near Pembina Highway but it was shifted west to a much wider hydro corridor.

Most of the rail corridors are quite narrow and at first glance it seems unlikely that they could accommodate BRT/eventual LRT without very costly means like elevated structures.