Cruel or brilliant - City Offers Homeless One-Way leave if they never return

[DCReid]

City Offers Homeless One-Way Travel Ticket to Europe If They Sign Contract to Never Return

The city of Basel in Switzerland has offered its homeless community a free one-way ticket to any other European destination if they agree to sign a contract vowing never to return...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...pzo?li=BBnbfcL

[SIGSEGV]

Originally Posted by DCReid

City Offers Homeless One-Way Travel Ticket to Europe If They Sign Contract to Never Return

The city of Basel in Switzerland has offered its homeless community a free one-way ticket to any other European destination if they agree to sign a contract vowing never to return...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...pzo?li=BBnbfcL

I see the Greyhound treatment (a staple of cities like Las Vegas and Reno) has made it across the ocean.

[dimondpark]

Originally Posted by SIGSEGV

I see the Greyhound treatment (a staple of cities like Las Vegas and Reno) has made it across the ocean.

Apparently so...that's like Nevada state history, the wankers.

[austlar1]

What happens, if they come back?

[Pedestrian]

This is nothing at all new. San Francisco has been providing bus tickets to its homeless to return to the places where their families live (and where they came from) forever. There's no way to prevent them from coming back however.

Many other American cities give free bus tickets to their homeless to leave town. Some of San Francisco's homeless got here that way from other places. But again, there's no way to prevent them returning.

[SIGSEGV]

Originally Posted by Pedestrian

This is nothing at all new. San Francisco has been providing bus tickets to its homeless to return to the places where their families live (and where they came from) forever. There's no way to prevent them from coming back however.

Many other American cities give free bus tickets to their homeless to leave town. Some of San Francisco's homeless got here that way from other places. But again, there's no way to prevent them returning.

yep, this is what Reno does. Cheaper to buy people a greyhound ticket to SF than to provide services...

https://www.sfgate.com/opinion/edito...me-6554737.php

[llamaorama]

Every other big city in Switzerland should sue the municipal government of Basel for the cost of caring for these people. Not cool.

This is a story as old as time. England actually had a welfare system in the Middle Ages but it collapsed in the early 18th century when ‘enclosure’ drove peasants off big estates and this migration led to strain put on local governments that paid for this charity. There were ‘poor laws’ passed that criminalized vagrancy and generally made things hard for the working class until the labor movement and unions drove a push towards modern liberalism/progressivism.

Moral of the story is social spending has to be mostly at the federal level otherwise it creates a free rider problem among local entities until the system inevitably breaks down.

[iheartthed]

Originally Posted by llamaorama

Every other big city in Switzerland should sue the municipal government of Basel for the cost of caring for these people. Not cool.

That's exactly what will happen. But the stipulation is that they leave Switzerland, so all of the other European countries will sue Switzerland for trying to unload their social problems onto other cities/countries.

[BnaBreaker]

Originally Posted by austlar1

What happens, if they come back?

That's what I want to know too... and how would they know if they came back anyway? What are they, putting ankle bracelets on them or something?

[KevinFromTexas]

Not a fan. Especially when my city has become a repository for the homeless and then gets blamed for the issue saying we're the cause of our own problems. And that's without acknowledging that the other towns dumping their homeless here don't have the money or resources or facilities that big cities do. And when those same small towns dumping their homeless here themselves have crime that is even shocking considering their small size.

It happens.

https://www.kxan.com/news/local/aust...him-to-austin/
A rural town ran out of resources to help a homeless man. So, they brought him to Austin

by: John Engel
Posted: Apr 7, 2021 / 02:47 PM CDT / Updated: Apr 8, 2021 / 09:28 AM CDT

AUSTIN (KXAN) — On Tuesday, the head of Austin’s police union posted a video to social media showing a Giddings Police Department officer dropping someone off at the Austin Resource Center for the Homeless.

“That’s just a disgrace,” Austin Police Association President Ken Casaday can be heard saying on the video. “These other counties need to be held accountable and take care of their own folks.”

Giddings is 55 miles east of Austin. The police chief there, Haril Walpole, confirmed to KXAN on Wednesday that, yes, one of his officers brought a man experiencing homelessness to Austin. But that was only after the man’s family turned him away and the town of just over 5,000 ran out of resources to help him.

Like many smaller communities, Giddings doesn’t have the volume of individuals experiencing homelessness to warrant the construction of a shelter and the city doesn’t have the money to build one, anyway.

-

Giddings is tiny. 5 square miles with 5,171 people estimated living there in 2020.

• Video Link

[Centropolis]

welcome to america, basel

[Centropolis]

nice town, slept in a funny attic by the university

[Camelback]

Originally Posted by austlar1

What happens, if they come back?

Then the city is going to get really mad at them and wag their finger and give them a stern talking to. They'll probably write a ticket and give them a court date to appear. If they fail to appear, then their life is going to hell real quick.

From my experience with the American homeless, they generally don't respect the city ordinances and laws of public exposure, public intoxication, urination, defecation, illegal camping, trespassing, loitering, littering, disturbing the peace, theft, most property crimes and at times violent crimes.

And the worst offense of them all is they refuse to WEAR A MASK, while digging through the garbage to find some old sushi to eat.

[Centropolis]

Originally Posted by Camelback

Then the city is going to get really mad at them and wag their finger and give them a stern talking to. They'll probably write a ticket and give them a court date to appear. If they fail to appear, then their life is going to hell real quick.

From my experience with the American homeless, they generally don't respect the city ordinances and laws of public exposure, public intoxication, urination, defecation, illegal camping, trespassing, loitering, littering, disturbing the peace, theft, most property crimes and at times violent crimes.

And the worst offense of them all is they refuse to WEAR A MASK, while digging through the garbage to find some old sushi to eat.

lol would you follow the rules if you were eating from the trash?

[Camelback]

Originally Posted by Centropolis

lol would you follow the rules if you were eating from the trash?

No way! Basel is telling the homeless guys sign a contract to never return if they accept a ticket. These guys eat out of the trash, I don't think they're worried about breach of contract and the consequences of that! What's going to happen, they get fined? They go to jail and get a bed, bathroom, running water, food and medial care?

[Centropolis]

Originally Posted by Camelback

No way! Basel is telling the homeless guys sign a contract to never return if they accept a ticket. These guys eat out of the trash, I don't think they're worried about breach of contract and the consequences of that! What's going to happen, they get fined? They go to jail and get a bed, bathroom, running water, food and medial care?

yeah, this seems like a very swiss take on an american style approach which is a very weird combination. in the u.s. suburban police just scoop people up and drive down the expressway 20 miles and open the door.

[iheartthed]

Originally Posted by austlar1

What happens, if they come back?

Deportation.

[Camelback]

Originally Posted by iheartthed

Deportation.

So they sign a contract to leave and they're given a 1 way ticket. They return back to their preferred corner in Basel. Then they're caught, detained, processed and are deported.

What's to stop them from returning after deportation? Maybe that corner in Basel is profitable (I'm sure it is, Switzerland prices are insane) but also sentimental.

[iheartthed]

Originally Posted by Camelback

So they sign a contract to leave and they're given a 1 way ticket. They return back to their preferred corner in Basel. Then they're caught, detained, processed and are deported.

What's to stop them from returning after deportation? Maybe that corner in Basel is profitable (I'm sure it is, Switzerland prices are insane) but also sentimental.

The risk of imprisonment for being in the country illegally?

[Camelback]

Originally Posted by iheartthed

The risk of imprisonment for being in the country illegally?

Then they get a bed, fed and medicine, isn't that better than sifting through garbage to maybe find and eat some leftovers full of maggots and bacteria?