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Old Posted Jul 23, 2021, 9:40 AM
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What are the cabins you guys refer to? Like J? Clearly it must be a jargon-y way of saying economy/prem economy/business...
J is business. Y is economy. Those are the commonly used. F is first class which Canadian airlines don't have. Your ticket might say something else if discounted and those vary by airline. Air Canada's discounted Business is P for example. But in shorthand you still say I am travelling in J class.
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Old Posted Jul 23, 2021, 10:38 AM
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What was the daily average number of flights pre covid at YOW?
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Old Posted Jul 23, 2021, 4:53 PM
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What was the daily average number of flights pre covid at YOW?
I want to say approx. 90-120 departures per day depending on the day of the week and the season.
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Old Posted Jul 23, 2021, 4:57 PM
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J is business. Y is economy. Those are the commonly used. F is first class which Canadian airlines don't have. Your ticket might say something else if discounted and those vary by airline. Air Canada's discounted Business is P for example. But in shorthand you still say I am travelling in J class.
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What are the cabins you guys refer to? Like J? Clearly it must be a jargon-y way of saying economy/prem economy/business...
Apologies for using jargon that might not be commonly known (that wasn't my intention).

As YOWetal pointed out, J is commonly referred to business class in Canada.

For example, Air Canada has 3-5 different economy fares based off which level you purchase (basic, flex, comfort, latitude, etc.) so they may have a different ticket code, such as "A" or "C" but they are just subgroups of "Economy class - 'Y' ".
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Old Posted Jul 23, 2021, 5:03 PM
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Apologies for using jargon that might not be commonly known (that wasn't my intention).
It seems pretty common on this thread for people to use airline jargon (like international airport and airline codes) that isn't commonly known unless you are an enthusiast. In most cases, Google is your friend, but I can see how single letter cabin class codes are harder to figure out if you don't know them.
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Old Posted Jul 23, 2021, 5:19 PM
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Does AC use W from PE? And do they count the legroom bonus seats as Y+?
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Old Posted Jul 23, 2021, 9:15 PM
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Air Canada anticipating recovery in demand as travel restrictions are eased

By: The Canadian Press
Published: Jul 23, 2021 2:16pm EDT


Air Canada is anticipating a recovery in demand in the coming months as travel restrictions are eased and leisure passengers look to get away after being grounded by COVID-19.

Although overall bookings remain below pre-pandemic levels, customer interest began to increase in June with the elimination of quarantines for fully vaccinated returning Canadians and the removal of other travel restrictions.

“We can now optimistically say that we are turning a corner, and we expect to soon see correlated financial improvements,” CEO Michael Rousseau said Friday during a conference call.

“Indications are that the worst effects of the COVID-19 pandemic may now be behind us. Based on what we are seeing in other markets that are further along in reopening in Canada, we anticipate travel will resume at a quickening pace.”

Rousseau said bookings are steadily increasing for domestic, transborder and Atlantic markets as well as to sun destinations for the coming winter. Future bookings In some weeks of June were ahead of the same period in 2019.

“We expect the most recent announcements of the Government of Canada relaxing existing measures will further help strengthen the interest of our customers in flying again.”

Current demand is largely for leisure and visiting friends and family, but Air Canada expects to see a progressive return of corporate demand in September and October, added chief commercial officer Lucie Guillemette.

That could be aided by the ability of Canadian passengers to rely on COVID tests taken in Canada for trips of less than 72 hours.

“We are encouraged by some of the commentary from our peers in the United States with regards to overall business travel recovery,” she told analysts.

Guillemette said that rebuilding its U.S. operations as the largest foreign carrier is key to its recovery. That will also expedite the recovery of international long-haul operations as it seeks to achieve or exceed its share of the U.S. long-haul global market.

The Atlantic business will recover quicker than the Pacific or Latin America because of high vaccination rates, strong cultural and business connections with Europe and strong leisure interest from Canadians.

“We are already observing healthy demand signals for Europe into 2022,” she added.

The Montreal-based company says it lost $1.17 billion or $3.31 per diluted share, compared with a loss of $1.75 billion or $6.44 per share a year earlier.

Adjusted profits were $1.08 billion or $3.03 per share.

Revenues during the three months ended June 30 surged 58.8 per cent to $837 million from $527 million in the second quarter of 2020. Passenger revenues more than doubled to $426 million from a year ago which marked the first full quarter to be impacted by the pandemic. Cargo revenues increased 33 per cent to a record $358 million.

Air Canada was expected to post $2.76 per share in adjusted profits on $848.2 million of revenues, according to financial data firm Refitinitv.

The country's largest airline increased its seat capacity by 78 per cent compared to the same time last year, and was down 86 per cent from the second quarter of 2019. It plans to increase available seat miles in the third quarter so capacity will be 65 per cent below the same period in 2019.

In August, its domestic capacity is expected to be about two-thirds of what it was in 2019.

“The third-quarter outlook pointed to healthy demand recovery and a significant improvement in daily cash burn,” Walter Spracklin of RBC Dominion Securities wrote in a report.

Air Canada says it has refunded about $1 billion for non-refundable tickets and expects to pay an additional $200 million in the third quarter, which will be covered by the federal government's $1.4 billion refund credit facility.

The airline says it has recalled about 2,900 employees in June and July as it restores service this summer to destinations, particularly in Canada and the U.S. More workers will be called back for the fall season.

Air Canada has retained about half of its workforce, including the vast majority of pilots who have remained current and ready to fly when conditions warrant.

While it works to rebuild operations, the airline said it is also preparing to meet the challenges from increased competition stemming from expansion plans for Porter Airlines and Flair Airlines. Porter plans to add jet service from several gateways, including Toronto's Pearson airport, in the second half of next year, while Flair is adding aircraft and routes.

“We certainly welcome healthy competition. But suffice to say, we will be ready to deal with that situation,” Rousseau said of Porter.

He also said the failed purchase of Transat may have been beneficial long-term, but it would have been very difficult to integrate while also focusing on the post-COVID recovery.

https://www.obj.ca/index.php/article...ions-are-eased
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Old Posted Jul 24, 2021, 1:17 AM
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Air Canada reinstating three daily direct flights from YOW to EWR as of October 31.
Things are looking up!
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Old Posted Jul 25, 2021, 4:48 PM
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Air Canada reinstating three daily direct flights from YOW to EWR as of October 31.
Things are looking up!
Was that announced or is that just the dummy schedule loaded? DCA and BOS are also there as of 31OCT21 with their pre-pandemic normal schedules. Anything beyond the end of the IATA summer season on 30OCT21, I'd take with a huge grain of salt. The YOW-Florida schedule looks accurate though starting in December as it's far less capacity to TPA, MCO & FLL than pre-pandemic. It's also listed as mainline vs Rouge in winter 2019-20.

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Old Posted Jul 25, 2021, 10:10 PM
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Was that announced or is that just the dummy schedule loaded? DCA and BOS are also there as of 31OCT21 with their pre-pandemic normal schedules. Anything beyond the end of the IATA summer season on 30OCT21, I'd take with a huge grain of salt. The YOW-Florida schedule looks accurate though starting in December as it's far less capacity to TPA, MCO & FLL than pre-pandemic. It's also listed as mainline vs Rouge in winter 2019-20.

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Thanks for the info. I was about to book for November but don’t want to get re-routed through YUL or YYZ. I will just wait.
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Old Posted Jul 26, 2021, 3:01 PM
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Something about return of daily flights to NYC area that makes life seem like it's getting back to normal. I've flown through EWR but never went there to visit NYC (usually drive). How easy is it to get to Midtown from EWR? Is there a direct connection to Grand Central or Penn?
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Old Posted Jul 26, 2021, 3:31 PM
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Something about return of daily flights to NYC area that makes life seem like it's getting back to normal. I've flown through EWR but never went there to visit NYC (usually drive). How easy is it to get to Midtown from EWR? Is there a direct connection to Grand Central or Penn?
You need to take a separate train from airport to another train station. It from there to convenient to Penn station. It’s best airport for public transport. Taxi wise it’s the worst to most destinations.
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Something about return of daily flights to NYC area that makes life seem like it's getting back to normal. I've flown through EWR but never went there to visit NYC (usually drive). How easy is it to get to Midtown from EWR? Is there a direct connection to Grand Central or Penn?
Ewr train to nyc train can be congested … if all good can get to penn station in Manhattan in 40 mins and for < $20. Taxi will be $80-100usd depending on traffic and can take 30-60 mins traffic dependant. Flying to lga (la guardia) is quicker for Manhattan via taxi
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Old Posted Jul 27, 2021, 2:08 PM
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Ewr train to nyc train can be congested … if all good can get to penn station in Manhattan in 40 mins and for < $20. Taxi will be $80-100usd depending on traffic and can take 30-60 mins traffic dependant. Flying to lga (la guardia) is quicker for Manhattan via taxi
I have always arrived in EWR in the evening and I always take the Express bus to Port Authority. They say it takes 40 min but it’s never been more than 30 minutes. Have never taken the train. Same goes going back to EWR, I have found the Express bus again from Port Authority to be the quickest.

Ok the other hand, LGA is not as well connected. I take a taxi from there but traffic is brutal during the week and it can take over an hour to get to Manhattan depending on your arrival time.

So on paper, LGA is much closer to Manhattan than EWR but in practice not necessarily so.
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Not specific to YOW, but maybe of interest to some.

Sorry about some of the picture sizes; I just linked directly to the article's pictures and the BBCode guide doesn't tell me how to resize them.

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World’s Top Twenty Airlines named for 2021
by Christine Forbes Smith July 20, 2021

AirlineRatings.com has announced along with its Airline Excellence Awards its 20 Top Airlines in the World for 2021.

Heading the list is Qatar Airways followed by Air New Zealand, Singapore Airlines, Qantas, Emirates, Cathay Pacific, Virgin Atlantic, United Airlines, EVA Air, British Airways, Lufthansa, ANA, Finnair, Japan Air Lines, KLM, Hawaiian Airlines, Alaska Airlines, Virgin Australia, Delta Air Lines, and Etihad Airways.
To be named in the top twenty, airlines must achieve a seven-star safety rating and demonstrate leadership in innovation for passenger comfort.

The editors of AirlineRatings.com, some of the most experienced and awarded, look for a consistent level of service, innovation, and staff engagement from each major contender.

According to AirlineRatings.com Editor-in-Chief Geoffrey Thomas, “we are focused on leadership and airlines that innovate to make a real difference to the passenger experience.”
“In our evaluation, we also consider the audited feedback from passengers on our website.”


Qatar Airways was ranked number 1 because of its cabin innovation, passenger service, and its dedication and commitment to continue to operate throughout the COVID pandemic.

The airline has a host of industry firsts. First to complete IATA’s important IOSA safety audit, first to be fully COVID audited and compliant by both AirlineRatings and Skytrax, and amongst the first to trial IATA’s COVID Safe Travel Pass.


Air New Zealand which took the second position in the Top Twenty, is always at the forefront of airline awards because of its constant innovation and industry leadership.


Air New Zealand’s multi-award winning Skycouch


In third position is Singapore Airlines which continues to excel in technology innovation and in-flight products. The airline also took at Best First Class.


Qantas took the fourth spot in the Top Twenty for its outstanding safety record and fiscal performance during the extremely difficult COVID pandemic. It also took out Best Lounge and Best Domestic Service awards.


Qantas has introduced its suites to the A380.


Emirates climbed to the fifth spot and has just introduced a premium economy class which is being hailed as one of the best in the industry.


Emirates Premium Economy


Cathay Pacific Airways took the sixth spot and is always in the winner’s circle. It has won numerous awards from AirlineRatings.com including Best Business Class in 2013 and 2015 and Best Asia-Pacific Airline for 2016.


Cathay Pacific Airways Business Class is superb


In seventh spot is Virgin Atlantic which has always been at the forefront of cabin innovation.




Leaping up the rankings to eighth spot in the Top Twenty is Chicago-based United Airlines which has stunned the aviation world with its huge commitments to supersonic, subsonic, and electric aircraft to rejuvenate its fleet and offer passengers the very best in comfort and eco-technology.




EVA Air takes ninth spot. EVA Air is a leader in Taiwanese aviation and has always been at the forefront of cabin innovation such as premium economy in 1992.




Making up the Top Ten is British Airways, which for decades has been amongst the winners for product, service, and innovation.
Quote was from: https://www.airlineratings.com/news/...es-named-2021/

No Canadian airlines in the top 20.
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Anyone just hear the loud aircraft flying overhead? I see an Air Inuit 733 listed on flight ware.com, but I wonder if it is a 732 instead?

Also a PAL DH8 is coming in from YXU this afternoon.
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