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Old Posted Apr 26, 2021, 4:00 PM
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I'm not sure if this has been posted anywhere yet, but there is a proposal to re-zone the sites at 2 Leikin, 20 Leikin, and 99 Bill Leathem to allow a warehouse and truck terminal as uses.

Looks like someone is proposing to construct a warehouse here. The land has been vacant for a long time. The area has good access to Fallowfield which leads to the 416 relatively quickly, and Prince of Wales to go south to Bankfield for potential access to the 416 there.

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Old Posted Apr 27, 2021, 5:54 PM
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I'm not sure if this has been posted anywhere yet, but there is a proposal to re-zone the sites at 2 Leikin, 20 Leikin, and 99 Bill Leathem to allow a warehouse and truck terminal as uses.

Looks like someone is proposing to construct a warehouse here. The land has been vacant for a long time. The area has good access to Fallowfield which leads to the 416 relatively quickly, and Prince of Wales to go south to Bankfield for potential access to the 416 there.

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I've seen the odd comment that it might be a UPS facility? Have you heard anything?
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I have so enjoyed reading the many comments in news articles on this story. The Barrhaven crowd have very short memories considering they paved over everything for their suburban wasteland which laid traffic carnage on every route to get there. Same crowd protests airplane traffic - again, the airport was there first. Karma - love it - build it!
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I've seen the odd comment that it might be a UPS facility? Have you heard anything?
I haven't heard anything regarding this, but I could see that working there. They have a smaller depot in Kanata, so building a similar sized one on this plot of land would work well.
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I haven't heard anything regarding this, but I could see that working there. They have a smaller depot in Kanata, so building a similar sized one on this plot of land would work well.
I can't see any of the large courier companies building something like that in Ottawa. This is a sort hub type of place, not a delivery depot, and UPS has a pretty large hub in Montreal. Purolator is building a new facility in the near future but it's certainly not something like this, and it's supposed to be out in Kanata.

This has Amazon written all over it to me. They have been opening a lot of their own delivery depots (2 are opening in London this year a couple blocks apart, each of which are double the size of the local Purolator or UPS depots), as well as Kitchener, Cambridge and around Toronto, and I wouldn't be shocked if this was a sort hub to service those from the 2 Ottawa distribution centres. Possibly handle Ottawa region deliveries as well. Weird location for that though.
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This has Amazon written all over it to me.
Sure does. This one is also being built by Broccolini, and the proponents are hiding behind the codename "Medusa" this time. Very similar to Project Python.

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I can't see any of the large courier companies building something like that in Ottawa. This is a sort hub type of place, not a delivery depot, and UPS has a pretty large hub in Montreal. Purolator is building a new facility in the near future but it's certainly not something like this, and it's supposed to be out in Kanata.

This has Amazon written all over it to me. They have been opening a lot of their own delivery depots (2 are opening in London this year a couple blocks apart, each of which are double the size of the local Purolator or UPS depots), as well as Kitchener, Cambridge and around Toronto, and I wouldn't be shocked if this was a sort hub to service those from the 2 Ottawa distribution centres. Possibly handle Ottawa region deliveries as well. Weird location for that though.
Yes I agree. I had written that comment before the official site plan was released and before we knew it would be a larger sortation facility. Definitely looks Amazon-esque!
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I've seen the odd comment that it might be a UPS facility? Have you heard anything?
Whatever it may be, it's known that it will take up the entire plot of land, and that the City will not have to construct the proposed roads and servicing that was initially agreed to by the former city of Nepean in 1996.

The lands were sold to Zena-Kinder Holdings for $1 and the City was released from its financial liability of approx. 7-10 million dollars for having to potentially construct the roads and servicing.

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Warehouse application for south-end business park drives fears over truck traffic

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Publishing date: May 04, 2021 • 1 hour ago • 4 minute read




A Barrhaven-area community is fighting a proposal to allow a warehouse and truck terminal in a business park, with residents fearing negative impacts from trucks rumbling past their riverside homes.

Meanwhile, the property owner’s development team suggests demand for warehouse space will increase thanks to the growth in online retailing.

The planning application illustrates the city’s challenge in pursuing economic development opportunities reflecting the realities of the market while managing the expectations of residents who live near a project site.

The property owned by Zena-Kinder Holdings Ltd. extends west from Leikin Drive and Merivale Road to Longfields Drive, northwest of the RCMP headquarters.

The 30.5-hectare site is zoned for light industry, and while an office is allowed, the owner needs an approved amendment to add a warehouse and truck transport terminal as acceptable land uses. A planning rationale filed with the application says the added uses would not cause environmental, public health and safety concerns.

Residents of nearby Rideau Glen don’t buy it.

“People are concerned about the overall impact of the quality of life in this community,” Barbara Motzney said, explaining that residents are worried about noise, pollution, safety and security with more trucks travelling on local roads near the development property in the South Merivale Business Park.

“It not only doesn’t fulfill the vision for the business park, it’s a long way away from that vision,” Motzney said.

Barry King said he has lived in the Rideau Glen community since the early 1970s. Residents have expected light industrial uses in the business park, not developments that would generate transport truck traffic, King said.

“The general feel is it’s not an appropriate location for a transport truck depot,” King said.

According to the planning rationale produced by Zena-Kinder’s consultant Novatech, the property is “well situated in a location for goods movement, including warehouse and truck transport terminal uses, given their proximity to major roadways including Merivale Road, Woodroffe Avenue, Fallowfield Road, Strandherd Drive, Prince of Wales, and the Vimy Memorial Bridge connection to Earl Armstrong and the Riverside South Community.”

The application only offers a rough description of what could be built on the site and the impacts to the surrounding road network. A preliminary concept plan shows two industrial buildings and one office building.

A transportation study filed with the application forecasts 210 industrial-related vehicle trips in the morning peak hour and 310 trips in the afternoon peak hour. Of those 520 trips, 55 are attributed to “heavy vehicles” and the rest are attributed to “light vehicles.”

On top of the industrial traffic, the office portion of the development would generate 518 morning peak-hour trips and 544 afternoon peak-hour trips, according to the transportation study.

Full build-out is expected to happen over five years to 2026.

The application notes that Ottawa’s official plan allows warehousing and distribution activities in an urban employment area like the business park.

“The proposed warehouse and truck transport terminal uses will fulfill a vital and growing need in the urban economy,” the planning rationale says.

“They will enhance the underlying value of the parcels in the business park. Recent experience and trends clearly demonstrate that warehouse, truck transportation and distribution of goods in general is going to continue to grow with online shopping while the demand for ‘bricks and mortar’ stores is likely to decline somewhat. Warehouse and truck transport terminals are not noxious or heavy industrial uses that will impact on other potential uses that may be developed on the few remaining parcels.”

Vague information about the project is annoying residents in Rideau Glen. They haven’t been told what kind of company would be using the warehouse.

The project manager listed as the applicant for the zoning amendment couldn’t be reached for comment on Monday.

“We shouldn’t have to glue together facts made by assumptions made in an annex of an application,” Motzney said.

“We need to have some confidence in this and not get the impression that it will get railroaded through,” King said.

Gloucester-South Nepean Coun. Carol Anne Meehan is aiming to hold an information session about the planning application on May 13. The application is projected to be in front of council’s planning committee by the end of the month.

“I am quite concerned about it,” Meehan said.

Meehan said she’s worried the roads can’t handle an increase in traffic volumes. “Our infrastructure is woefully lacking,” she said.

While there are few details about the the developer’s plans, Meehan said she’s been told the property is an attractive location for a warehouse because of its proximity to the Ottawa International Airport and an Amazon distribution centre on the other side of Barrhaven.

Meehan said she appreciates the city wants to create more jobs in an underdeveloped business park, “but we have to weigh it.”

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"...residents fearing negative impacts from trucks rumbling past their riverside homes..."

Wasn't this once the main route into Ottawa? These folks need a reality check... stop buying stuff online - no more warehouses!
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I see a couple of sites in this picture that would be more appropriate for the south-end police campus:
  1. The lot just north of Leikin/Bill Leathem
  2. The block surrounded by Merivale, Leikin and Beckstead.
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I see a couple of sites in this picture that would be more appropriate for the south-end police campus:
  1. The lot just north of Leikin/Bill Leathem
  2. The block surrounded by Merivale, Leikin and Beckstead.
Maybe if there was a bridge at the end of Merivale but other then that no it's not really better for the intended purpose of the campus and while you may disagree with that purpose you can't just continue to ignore it.
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The real question is if this increase in truck traffic would finally compel the city to expand Prince of Wales to multiple lanes in each direction. That road has been a traffic bottleneck, especially during peak traffic hours, for far too long.
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These facilities are extremely generic and I don't see anything here that screams Amazon, but I wouldn't rule it out. Crossdocks are used very widely across the LTL industry, and there are piles of them in Toronto's suburbs.

Amazon has a couple of different types of warehouse that aren't fulfillment centres. Delivery stations are where the last mile trips originate from, but this isn't for that it would seem. Sortation centres are where packages from warehouses are brought in, sorted to destinations and shipped out. There is already one of these south of Montreal, YUL5. It has 25-30 docks, so it's significantly smaller than this proposal.

The location of this is odd, unless you consider the airport. It's not near a highway, but if some of the cargo goes to/from the airport it would be justified.

There are some retailers who have crossdock style distribution centres, especially those that move palletized goods or don't have large inventory in warehouse. Costco just built a massive location on the east side of Montreal, so this seems unlikely for them. There are others though, it could really be anything.
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^^All good points. What leads me towards Amazon is the description upthread of x amount of large trucks at certain times a day and of small vehicles at certain times a day. Sounds exactly like a courier depot only this one is huge. This is almost like a courier depot I'm familiar with in west Toronto. It's a sort hub on the outer edges where the loading docks are and a delivery depot in the centre where dozens of parcel trucks are loaded. But as I suggested, and could be very wrong, none of the major couriers are going to put something like that in Ottawa. But Amazon is gradually creating a full fledged courier company to its stable of businesses and I can see this being part of that process.

But then, I look at a map and wonder why there? Is the land cheap and is Amazon that tight with a penny they would chase a cheaper piece of land that isn't in an efficient location for that type of need? And then I wonder why would they put a parcel hub in Ottawa, that relatively close to Montreal? And not a similar type facility in Toronto yet? Or maybe in Toronto, they are waiting for the hub facility that a large chunk of their stuff goes through now becomes vacant the first part of next year when Purolator moves into its new hub? Probably pick that up cheap and can't beat the location. So, who knows. Maybe it's Canadian Tire or somebody and I picked up on a very wrong scent lol.
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^^All good points. What leads me towards Amazon is the description upthread of x amount of large trucks at certain times a day and of small vehicles at certain times a day. Sounds exactly like a courier depot only this one is huge. This is almost like a courier depot I'm familiar with in west Toronto. It's a sort hub on the outer edges where the loading docks are and a delivery depot in the centre where dozens of parcel trucks are loaded. But as I suggested, and could be very wrong, none of the major couriers are going to put something like that in Ottawa. But Amazon is gradually creating a full fledged courier company to its stable of businesses and I can see this being part of that process.

But then, I look at a map and wonder why there? Is the land cheap and is Amazon that tight with a penny they would chase a cheaper piece of land that isn't in an efficient location for that type of need? And then I wonder why would they put a parcel hub in Ottawa, that relatively close to Montreal? And not a similar type facility in Toronto yet? Or maybe in Toronto, they are waiting for the hub facility that a large chunk of their stuff goes through now becomes vacant the first part of next year when Purolator moves into its new hub? Probably pick that up cheap and can't beat the location. So, who knows. Maybe it's Canadian Tire or somebody and I picked up on a very wrong scent lol.
Amazon's last-mile centres often load the vans indoors. This would require multiple ground level doors to drive into and out of the building. The renders only show two, and they're in awkward places more useful for moving the occasional forklift in and out than anything else. There's also no on-site parking for delivery vehicles - there's a staff lot and trailer spaces, but nothing delivery van sized.

This would also be a HUGE facility just to do last-mile, and Amazon doesn't have a last-mile presence in Ottawa. Intelcom does the bulk of their work, and manages that out of a small facility in a light industrial strip mall.

This seems like a proper crossdock facility where trucks are unloaded, items are sorted and warehoused temporarily, generally without any vertical racking, and sent back out again.
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Amazon's last-mile centres often load the vans indoors. This would require multiple ground level doors to drive into and out of the building. The renders only show two, and they're in awkward places more useful for moving the occasional forklift in and out than anything else. There's also no on-site parking for delivery vehicles - there's a staff lot and trailer spaces, but nothing delivery van sized.

This would also be a HUGE facility just to do last-mile, and Amazon doesn't have a last-mile presence in Ottawa. Intelcom does the bulk of their work, and manages that out of a small facility in a light industrial strip mall.

This seems like a proper crossdock facility where trucks are unloaded, items are sorted and warehoused temporarily, generally without any vertical racking, and sent back out again.
I was suggesting it could be both a sort hub and a delivery van depot, similar to Purolator's Kipling Ave location in Toronto.

Amazon is in the process of opening 2 final mile delivery centres in London. One is a new build that has 2 ground level overhead doors for van access. The other is a retrofit of a building that used to have trailer dock doors down one side, but those are having the grade raised to be bumper height for vans. Lots of courier depots are like that as well. I haven't seen what Amazon did with the building they took over in Cambridge to be a delivery depot, but it was a 140,000 sq ft rectangle with 30 or so loading docks on either side and no doors to drive inside. Intelcom currently is one of the main Amazon service providers in London, along with Canada Post and Purolator, but they are planning to add upwards of 150 of their own delivery routes. Their trend is definitely more and more under their own control, and sort hubs are a necessary part of that.
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Planning committee OK's warehouse project despite another blast from opponents

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Publishing date: Sep 23, 2021 • 12 hours ago • 2 minute read




Residents on Thursday had an opportunity to blast a mystery e-commerce warehouse and truck depot eyed for the South Merivale Business Park, only to have City of Ottawa’s planning committee deliver an approval for the site plan.

Medusa Inc./Broccolini was identified as the site plan applicant for 99 Bill Leathem Dr., 2 Leikin Dr. and 20 Leikin Dr. The builder needed the city’s approval of a site plan for how the property is going to function, including details on design, landscaping and traffic access.

Communities around the business park have grown uneasy about the interest in the area shown by warehouse developers.

City planning staff have the authority to approve a site plan unless the ward councillor makes staff win the approval of planning committee. In this case, Gloucester-South Nepean Coun. Carol Anne Meehan forced staff to ask for the committee to make a decision on the warehouse site plan.

The city describes the future facility as having a “light industrial use and associated shipping, receiving, loading, and distribution elements.”

However, the project team hasn’t disclosed which company will be using the warehouse.

All the city knows, according to a planning report, is that the facility will have “a type of assembly line that includes processing and handling of previously prepared products, packages, materials, merchandise, and packages serving external customers.”

The warehouse will be about 262,000 square feet, and an office will be roughly 16,700 square feet.

Residents are upset that the city would approve a warehouse in the business park, especially when the project would produce more transport truck traffic on already busy roads like Merivale Road and Prince of Wales Drive.

Many people also spoke out when a related zoning application hit planning committee’s agenda in May. The Ontario Land Tribunal has received an appeal to the zoning amendment approved by council.

Daintry Topshee, who lives in the Glens community, said the mystery warehouse project was a “travesty” and she expressed disappointment that the community didn’t know who would be operating the warehouse.

Inna Ellis, whose backyard faces Prince of Wales Drive, said she was already impacted by heavy truck traffic.

“We feel like our health, our wellbeing, our peace does not matter to whoever the developer is here,” Ellis said.

Meehan didn’t get a vote because she’s not a member of the planning committee.

“It has a potential to be disastrous,” Meehan said of the project in her final plea to committee members.

Knoxdale-Merivale Coun. Keith Egli, who represents residents in the neighbouring ward, said he opposed the site plan, but he’s also not a member of the planning committee and couldn’t vote.

Tim Marc, city hall’s top planning lawyer, told the committee it would be an “awkward situation” to reject the site plan since it complied with the zoning rules for the property.

The committee voted 7-3 in favour of the site plan. The decision doesn’t need council’s ratification.

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Planning committee OK's warehouse project despite another blast from opponents

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Publishing date: Sep 23, 2021 • 12 hours ago • 2 minute read




Residents on Thursday had an opportunity to blast a mystery e-commerce warehouse and truck depot eyed for the South Merivale Business Park, only to have City of Ottawa’s planning committee deliver an approval for the site plan.

Medusa Inc./Broccolini was identified as the site plan applicant for 99 Bill Leathem Dr., 2 Leikin Dr. and 20 Leikin Dr. The builder needed the city’s approval of a site plan for how the property is going to function, including details on design, landscaping and traffic access.

Communities around the business park have grown uneasy about the interest in the area shown by warehouse developers.

City planning staff have the authority to approve a site plan unless the ward councillor makes staff win the approval of planning committee. In this case, Gloucester-South Nepean Coun. Carol Anne Meehan forced staff to ask for the committee to make a decision on the warehouse site plan.

The city describes the future facility as having a “light industrial use and associated shipping, receiving, loading, and distribution elements.”

However, the project team hasn’t disclosed which company will be using the warehouse.

All the city knows, according to a planning report, is that the facility will have “a type of assembly line that includes processing and handling of previously prepared products, packages, materials, merchandise, and packages serving external customers.”

The warehouse will be about 262,000 square feet, and an office will be roughly 16,700 square feet.

Residents are upset that the city would approve a warehouse in the business park, especially when the project would produce more transport truck traffic on already busy roads like Merivale Road and Prince of Wales Drive.

Many people also spoke out when a related zoning application hit planning committee’s agenda in May. The Ontario Land Tribunal has received an appeal to the zoning amendment approved by council.

Daintry Topshee, who lives in the Glens community, said the mystery warehouse project was a “travesty” and she expressed disappointment that the community didn’t know who would be operating the warehouse.

Inna Ellis, whose backyard faces Prince of Wales Drive, said she was already impacted by heavy truck traffic.

“We feel like our health, our wellbeing, our peace does not matter to whoever the developer is here,” Ellis said.

Meehan didn’t get a vote because she’s not a member of the planning committee.

“It has a potential to be disastrous,” Meehan said of the project in her final plea to committee members.

Knoxdale-Merivale Coun. Keith Egli, who represents residents in the neighbouring ward, said he opposed the site plan, but he’s also not a member of the planning committee and couldn’t vote.

Tim Marc, city hall’s top planning lawyer, told the committee it would be an “awkward situation” to reject the site plan since it complied with the zoning rules for the property.

The committee voted 7-3 in favour of the site plan. The decision doesn’t need council’s ratification.

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How could this be anything but an Amazon. The descriptions of what the company will do, how they do it, what their space requirements are, what goes on inside..it can only be an Amazon warehouse/distribution centre.

Some rather tetchy back and forth between the clients lawyers and one of the Committee members on the feed.

This is going to OLT for the zoning I believe. Who appealed it? Neighbours?
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