2023 Transportation Master Plan

[Uhuniau]

Eastern part of the inner urban area: highest transit riderships in the city. Zero transit investment.

[roger1818]

Originally Posted by Uhuniau

Eastern part of the inner urban area: highest transit riderships in the city. Zero transit investment.

To the cynical, why invest money in it if it is doing well? LOL

[Jamaican-Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Uhuniau

Eastern part of the inner urban area: highest transit riderships in the city. Zero transit investment.

"Because that's where the poor people live and I don't wanna ride a bus or train with them." - Some suburbanite

[yvesdarly]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

I'll just leave this here.


https://twitter.com/heatshear/status...61773497634822

They should have z-scored/normalized the proportions at least.
It is interesting to show the distribution of trip end destinations to justify captivity to automobile for some zones.
Adherence to a mode of transportation doesn't say much if we don't talk about trip length or travel time

[lrt's friend]

Originally Posted by yvesdarly

They should have z-scored/normalized the proportions at least.
It is interesting to show the distribution of trip end destinations to justify captivity to automobile for some zones.
Adherence to a mode of transportation doesn't say much if we don't talk about trip length or travel time

Welcome to the forum!

[J.OT13]

Transportation Master Plan survey:

https://engage.ottawa.ca/transportat..._tool#tool_tab

[OTownandDown]

Originally Posted by yvesdarly

They should have z-scored/normalized the proportions at least.
It is interesting to show the distribution of trip end destinations to justify captivity to automobile for some zones.
Adherence to a mode of transportation doesn't say much if we don't talk about trip length or travel time

The 'Transit' map really shows the success of the transitway and how OC Transpo definitely does not serve the population equally.

[danishh]

here's my fantasy plan.

i think that should come in at ~$50B depending on the tunneling costs.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1XI...r0&usp=sharing

[waterloowarrior]

https://twitter.com/cbcotttraffic/st...575899138?s=19
An update on #OttCity's transportation master plan last night: #COVID19 makes it pretty useless to study travel across the region this fall to inform an updated plan, so that study's delayed until fall 2021 and the updated plan is delayed until fall 2023, a year later. #OttNews

[J.OT13]

Makes sense. And travel patterns will change a lot once things get back to "normal".

[TransitZilla]

I'm not surprised that the TMP is delayed, but it's a bummer to advocate for new active transporation projects. Often the excuse is that a certain project is not in the plan... now the next opportunity to add something to the plan is 3 years away.

[Gat-Train]

Originally Posted by danishh

here's my fantasy plan.

i think that should come in at ~$50B depending on the tunneling costs.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1XI...r0&usp=sharing

Looks good, but why not use the VIA Rail Corridor to Casselman?

[The Conductor]

Looks great

[The Conductor]

Congrats love this system really love Montreal Road line

Originally Posted by danishh

here's my fantasy plan.

i think that should come in at ~$50B depending on the tunneling costs.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1XI...r0&usp=sharing

[J.OT13]

Central screenshot of the ongoing TMP review. Good to see the Carling streetcar is still included, but disappointed by the continued lack of vision for the densest corridors Bank, Rideau-Montreal. Gatineau extension of Trillium was dropped.


https://twitter.com/OCFailspo/status...83351148797957

[Nowhere]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

Central screenshot of the ongoing TMP review. Good to see the Carling streetcar is still included, but disappointed by the continued lack of vision for the densest corridors Bank, Rideau-Montreal. Gatineau extension of Trillium was dropped.


https://twitter.com/OCFailspo/status...83351148797957

The second map in this document still includes the Trillium Line extension to Gatineau however.

https://engage.ottawa.ca/8204/widget...ocuments/44174

[vtecyo]

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https://engage.ottawa.ca/8204/widget...ocuments/44174

On a side note - it's funny how the scale on almost all the maps in that document is wrong - except for page 5 and 6. The others show about half the real world distances... unless the city knows something we don't ...

[TransitZilla]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

Central screenshot of the ongoing TMP review. Good to see the Carling streetcar is still included, but disappointed by the continued lack of vision for the densest corridors Bank, Rideau-Montreal. Gatineau extension of Trillium was dropped.


https://twitter.com/OCFailspo/status...83351148797957

It is nice to see Carling still planned a tram line., and the vision of the Baseline BRT extending to Heron and Walkley.

A couple questions:

• How useful will that short section of busway be on Carling east of Preston?
• What's going on at St Laurent & Innes? Are they considering a busway on the old rail corridor? Why is it so short?

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by Nowhere

The second map in this document still includes the Trillium Line extension to Gatineau however.

https://engage.ottawa.ca/8204/widget...ocuments/44174

Interesting... Why show it on some but not others? Seems to be the only difference.

Originally Posted by bradnixon

It is nice to see Carling still planned a tram line., and the vision of the Baseline BRT extending to Heron and Walkley.

A couple questions:

• How useful will that short section of busway be on Carling east of Preston?
• What's going on at St Laurent & Innes? Are they considering a busway on the old rail corridor? Why is it so short?

Unless that Preston-Bronson section is just bus lanes, I don't see Baseline level Transitway would bring much benefit.

A Transitway was once planned for the old rail corridor between Riverside and St-Laurent as part of the Cumberland Transitway (CT) in the 2008 TMP, but that was dropped in favour of a full focus on the suburban part of the CT, because, you know, Ottawa. A lot of that corridor seems to have been lost to Trainyards Big Box Centre.


https://app06.ottawa.ca/calendar/ott...8-ICS-PLA-0227

[OCCheetos]

Originally Posted by bradnixon

It is nice to see Carling still planned a tram line., and the vision of the Baseline BRT extending to Heron and Walkley.

A couple questions:

• How useful will that short section of busway be on Carling east of Preston?
• What's going on at St Laurent & Innes? Are they considering a busway on the old rail corridor? Why is it so short?

I saw someone speculate that it could connect to OC Transpo's Industrial Garage. It could offer more efficient dispatching of vehicles to the east end, especially if the Cumberland transitway is built.

Originally Posted by J.OT13

Interesting... Why show it on some but not others? Seems to be the only difference.



Unless that Preston-Bronson section is just bus lanes, I don't see Baseline level Transitway would bring much benefit.

A Transitway was once planned for the old rail corridor between Riverside and St-Laurent as part of the Cumberland Transitway (CT) in the 2008 TMP, but that was dropped in favour of a full focus on the suburban part of the CT, because, you know, Ottawa. A lot of that corridor seems to have been lost to Trainyards Big Box Centre.


https://app06.ottawa.ca/calendar/ott...8-ICS-PLA-0227

As far as I can tell, the Lycée Claudel-Innes transitway wouldn't have used any rail corridors, and would have instead followed the existing hydro corridor.

There's a substation in the way, but otherwise nothing technically would preclude it from ever being built: