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Old Posted Jul 18, 2013, 3:05 AM
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Heritage rules out of control, this city is f' up.

They don't do anything about the Morse Tea sign, but are threatening to jail a woman for protecting her kids.

No wonder no one wants to live downtown. It's sound worse than Vancouver's junkie problem.
As someone who's lived in Vancouver, the visible drug problem is way worse there (or was when I lived there several years ago).
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Old Posted Jul 18, 2013, 12:13 PM
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In fairness to the heritage types, thats a DAMN ugly fence.

You move into a heritage building, sticking up a cheap, ugly, PT fence just isnt going to fly.
I'm not sure how this fence helps anyways. It appears the property is open on the side street to a parking area anyways. With the bushes on the property, it seems this fence would just make a more appealing place for homeless or junkies to hide/sleep?
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Old Posted Jul 18, 2013, 1:02 PM
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I would like to take the woman in this article for her word but I live in the neighbourhood, walk frequently, and hardly ever see hypodermic needles. Maybe that corner is a place where druggies hang out but it seems unlikely. It's private property, visible from the windows of a row of owner-occupied houses and apartments across the street. If anyone congregates there the residents could (and probably would) call the police (who are just around the corner). Also, there are many more private places nearby including the grounds of an empty school (St. Pat's), alleys around Maitland Place, the area behind Staples, etc. Granted, one needle in your backyard is one too many!

As an aside, while driving through the Cogswell interchange the other day I noticed an encampment of homeless summer travelers on the grass below an overpass. The area has its first residents!
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Old Posted Jul 18, 2013, 3:16 PM
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Just an update... I'm listening to the woman who put up the fence on the radio and she sounds very reasonable. I agree that the fence is aesthetically unpleasing but for the city to disregard health and safety issues in order to follow the heritage policy to the letter (while not enforcing rules, as in the case of Morse Tea as others have pointed) is ridiculous but sadly typical.
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Old Posted Jul 18, 2013, 4:09 PM
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Don't call them that! They'll be claiming squatters rights in no time, then they'll raise a stink when it comes time to tear it down. They will form Save the Green, or some other ridiculous double entendre title. I kid of course but this is an issue the city needs to deal with because as we get bigger the more there will be.
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Old Posted Jul 18, 2013, 4:19 PM
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In fairness to the heritage types, thats a DAMN ugly fence.

You move into a heritage building, sticking up a cheap, ugly, PT fence just isnt going to fly.
I agree. I looked at google street and took a 'walk' around that corner. I can't imagine letting kids play in that fenced area which is away from the building, has a driveway that runs in front of the building and resembles a cattle shed. A metre high fence seems like a reasonable compromise. I remember when one of the house in the middle was clad with vinyl siding. i think that it is an important streetscape, and the integrity should be maintained. In some US heritage areas the guidelines are very stringent and there is no wiggle room, rightly so.
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Old Posted Jul 18, 2013, 5:16 PM
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If I were her I would just move to Enfield/Elmsdale and give my tax dollars to a municipality that might actually be concerned with children's safety.
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I'm not sure how this fence helps anyways. It appears the property is open on the side street to a parking area anyways. With the bushes on the property, it seems this fence would just make a more appealing place for homeless or junkies to hide/sleep?
Good point on the trees. It is right on the parking lot.

I wonder if junkies are throwing their needles on the lawn while walking along the sidewalk that's the only way I can see a solid fence helping? Is that a thing? Or do they just drop them where they shoot up? I dont know, Im not a junkie
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Old Posted Jul 18, 2013, 11:54 PM
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If I were her I would just move to Enfield/Elmsdale and give my tax dollars to a municipality that might actually be concerned with children's safety.
Please don't go all "Won't somebody think of the children!!!111!" on us.

I do agree that if she wants a quiet, suburban life where there is no "street people" and the things that go along with them, then Enfield might very well be the place... Brunswick on the other hand isn't.
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Sorry to bump this, but I drove by this area last night and noticed the fence is still there but has been painted black, presumably to match the existing fence. Seems like a nice compromise.

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Old Posted Jul 3, 2014, 9:38 PM
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I seem to always forget just how creepy it can get up there at night. My fiancee and I went for a walk up there during Nocturne this year thinking there may be something interesting happening (didn't look at the schedule or map) - we were completely wrong. Whereas the rest of the city was bustling with crowds, the Citadel was dark, quiet, but packed with parked cars and leering eyes. I think it's time this was addressed, at least with some lighting features. I always love walking around the Citadel at night and checking out the city lit up, but I always seem to forget just how damn creepy it gets up there.

There isn't a city in Canada, or probably on earth, that doesn't have two or three or twenty public parks that are well-know cruising areas, and where authorities more or less tolerate the activity - probably to keep it isolated to these areas.

It does seem a shame that such a huge central city park would be like this and therefore basically unavailable to the general public at night, but it's probably also safest for all involved this way. Central, visible, near a police station - all make it less likely that things will go terribly wrong during these encounters. Though, of course, they still do go wrong occasionally.

Public sex, like teen sex, or like porn, or like myriad other things that people are driven to do, can never be eliminated. I don't think we want our resources spent on people getting off in the middle of the night instead of on patrolling real crime.
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Halifax Transit Route 7 is NOT a true loop route

While Halifax Transit Route 7 has vastly better headway (service frequency) than it used to, I have a serious issue with the north end of its service area. Contrary to how it may look on the bus route map, route 7 Robie/Gottingen is not a full loop route, making it useless for a trip that goes from Gottingen at Stad to Leeds Street near Robie Street. Effectively speaking, 7 Robie is separate a route from 7 Gottingen in terms of the runs between Scotia Square Terminal and Northridge, just that they interline at Scotia Square. WTF!

I found this out the hard way when trying to take the bus from Stadacona to Robie Street at Leeds Street on Saturday. No wonder why Route 7's schedule is posted with so many timetables on the Rider's Guide.

Loop routes can still have high frequency, and in the case of Route 7, it can still cover North Ridge and that loop that spans from Kencrest Avenue to Vestry Street (which I currently call the "Vestry Loop"). Halifax Transit should just make this a full loop route.

How to do it:

Long story short, in my scenario, the run of Route 7 that uses Gottingen northbound and Robie Street southbound will go north on Gottingen and Novalea straight to North Ridge. Upon leaving North Ridge to ultimately head over to Robie southbound, it would head south on Kencrest, then west on Glebe. It would then briefly jog north along Novalea and then turn west along Leeds before heading onto southbound Robie. The northbound Robie/southbound Gottingen service would be the exact same routing in the opposite direction.

This would result in the "Vestry Loop" portion of the route becoming the "Glebe Loop".

I can't wait to see Halifax Transit (formerly Metro Transit) get a much needed overhaul in November 2016!

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I've taken the 7 from Scotia Square to Leeds/NSCC a few times, with no problems.
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If it's in the Coast, it's probably not true.
Many thousands of HRM voters disagree with you and as a result we have a new mayor.
Did you have the same view of The Fourth Estate and Frank (when owned by Bentley) ?
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Wasn't sure where else to mention this but when I saw this thread it made sense because when I heard this, I thought WTF? I was on Hollis today waiting for a crosswalk light, when the harbour hopper pulls up. The tour guide says "and to your left, is 1801 Hollis st. The tallest building in halifax! Standing at 284 feet." As it drove off I thought wait what? What about purdys and fenwick? It made me laugh, but I wondered where they got their info from and what other 'lies' they are telling people on their tours.
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Old Posted Oct 10, 2014, 8:16 PM
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Wasn't sure where else to mention this but when I saw this thread it made sense because when I heard this, I thought WTF? I was on Hollis today waiting for a crosswalk light, when the harbour hopper pulls up. The tour guide says "and to your left, is 1801 Hollis st. The tallest building in halifax! Standing at 284 feet." As it drove off I thought wait what? What about purdys and fenwick? It made me laugh, but I wondered where they got their info from and what other 'lies' they are telling people on their tours.
I think it is considered the tallest "office building" in Halifax, or so they said at the rappelling challenge last week. That being said, the Harbour Hopper tour script is full-of-crap and (supposedly toungue-in-cheek) inaccurate. It always bugged me because I think its lost on most of the tourists.
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That being said, the Harbour Hopper tour script is full-of-crap and (supposedly toungue-in-cheek) inaccurate. It always bugged me because I think its lost on most of the tourists.


A few years back, I took the tour with some family members from out of town and ended up explaining that most of their "facts" were a little off...
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2014, 12:33 AM
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I heard yesterday that the Harbour Hopper tells people that Winston Churchill is buried under the statue at the library...
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2014, 12:37 AM
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I think it is considered the tallest "office building" in Halifax, or so they said at the rappelling challenge last week. That being said, the Harbour Hopper tour script is full-of-crap and (supposedly toungue-in-cheek) inaccurate. It always bugged me because I think its lost on most of the tourists.
I was in the roof of 1801 Hollis. You look Down at almost everything. The td building now does seem to be higher, but I think that's due to the height gained being up the hill.
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