The Manitoba Provincial Politics Discussion

[The Jabroni]

Which means the Liberal Party of Manitoba can have the advantage here, if they play their cards right.

Given their track record over the course of 30+ years though, it remains doubtful. If they can market themselves as a party not really tied to the feds (greatest example is the BC Liberals, who is far from Liberal by name at all), then they have a chance of being a slightly left of centre party by stealing the votes of moderate conservatives who voted PC in the past. This new Keystone Party coming in might help further dilute and split the right wing votes.

With that said, the NDP could come crashing back into Broadway with a majority in the next election.

[esquire]

The biggest generational opportunity for the Manitoba Liberals was in 2016 when people were absolutely fed up with the NDP but hadn't warmed up to Pallister. In spite of an awful campaign under Rana Bokhari they managed to go from 1 to 3 MLAs. Although under a competent leadership team (i.e. not just the leader but the people around the leader) it could have easily been double that, if not more.

That dynamic doesn't exist now, so I expect the Liberals to win their customary two or three seats.

[Chrisforpm]

Originally Posted by The Jabroni

Which means the Liberal Party of Manitoba can have the advantage here, if they play their cards right.

Given their track record over the course of 30+ years though, it remains doubtful. If they can market themselves as a party not really tied to the feds (greatest example is the BC Liberals, who is far from Liberal by name at all), then they have a chance of being a slightly left of centre party by stealing the votes of moderate conservatives who voted PC in the past. This new Keystone Party coming in might help further dilute and split the right wing votes.

With that said, the NDP could come crashing back into Broadway with a majority in the next election.

I would absolutely love to see the MB Liberals run on a platform of social progression and fiscal responsibility. Basically what the PC’s used to be before the freedom folks started taking over. Ideally they would become the natural governing party in this province. Instead of the left and right swings we get with the current NDP and PC’s.

[djforsberg]

I don't know how anyone can see how the world is going and think that any liberal/centrist party is going to be successful anytime soon.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by djforsberg

I don't know how anyone can see how the world is going and think that any liberal/centrist party is going to be successful anytime soon.

The Liberal Party of Canada seems to have a pretty decent track record of success?

[djforsberg]

Originally Posted by esquire

The Liberal Party of Canada seems to have a pretty decent track record of success?

Just barely. They won the last two elections with not the highest popular vote. I would argue they won 2015 because of widespread hate of Stephen Harper (on top of some election promises that were mostly abandoned). They are only hanging on right now with the NDP's help (which pisses me off, as a democratic socialist). Anyways, I don't see them increasing their chances of winning anytime in the future. The media is doing a good job of campaigning for PP before he is even elected leader of the Cons.

[thurmas]

Manitoba Liberal party is dead they only do well in 3 ridings or so for most of the past 65 years they never have a leader that does well with suburban and rural voters only white collar snobs and hippies in river heights and not much else.

[wags_in_the_peg]

Liberal need a new leader and LOTS support financially, it's been reported numerous times they are cash strapped. 2019 70k votes

NDP have Wab as a leader and generally the party has lots support, not seen as a option to many though. 2019 150k votes

PC will continue to be the party of choice for many, despite the current & past leader 2019 222k votes


Green has 30k votes if those moved to NDP and Liberals as well, then that makes things interesting!

[Danny D Oh]

The Manitoba Liberals didn't heed the advise from several sage Manitoba political analysts to focus on running a strong campaign in Winnipeg over trying to run a provincial one in the past two elections.

That's the only path to rebuilding the party. Win 6-8 seats in the city and go from there. Run your incumbents (they did have one rural seat) but focus on the city.

There's no point in achieving 15-20% of the vote in every riding in this electoral system. You need seats to grow.

There's a 0% chance of MB Liberals forming government in 2023 for this organizational failure. If they are smart enough to realize it they can maybe start to contend later this decade by actually winning some Winnipeg seats in 23.

[Ando]

Originally Posted by wags_in_the_peg

Liberal need a new leader and LOTS support financially, it's been reported numerous times they are cash strapped. 2019 70k votes

NDP have Wab as a leader and generally the party has lots support, not seen as a option to many though. 2019 150k votes

PC will continue to be the party of choice for many, despite the current & past leader 2019 222k votes


Green has 30k votes if those moved to NDP and Liberals as well, then that makes things interesting!

I think you have trouble gauging polling results and trends.

[rrskylar]

Originally Posted by esquire

The Liberal Party of Canada seems to have a pretty decent track record of success?

Successful at destroying and fucking up anything they touch!

[Lars65]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

Successful at destroying and fucking up anything they touch!

I didn't realize you hated Canada so much. Keeping in mind the Liberal Party has been the predominant party for the entirety of Canada's existance, and therefore have the largest influence. Destroy and fuck up everything. Laughably partisan.

[djforsberg]

Originally Posted by Lars65

I didn't realize you hated Canada so much. Keeping in mind the Liberal Party has been the predominant party for the entirety of Canada's existance, and therefore have the largest influence. Destroy and fuck up everything. Laughably partisan.

[thurmas]

Oh no Angus reid poll out today NDP 40% PC 38% Liberals 13%. PC's really closing the gap in this poll hopefully its just an anomaly?

https://twitter.com/CanadianPolling/...35768570712065

[Phil's neighbour]

Originally Posted by thurmas

Oh no Angus reid poll out today NDP 40% PC 38% Liberals 13%. PC's really closing the gap in this poll hopefully its just an anomaly?

https://twitter.com/CanadianPolling/...35768570712065

Meh. Online poll of about 400 responses, no margin of error indicated. I would trust Probe Research’s findings over this any day. Sampling of 1000 phone interviews, showing Conservatives heading for oblivion.

[thurmas]

I think if the PCs have even a remote chance to compete next year in the election they need to do a lot of funding announcements for Winnipeg throughout the year and infrastructure announcements. Also some policies on crime and tax reform to get rid of the payroll tax to make the province more competitive would help.

[pspeid]

Originally Posted by Phil's neighbour

Meh. Online poll of about 400 responses, no margin of error indicated. I would trust Probe Research’s findings over this any day. Sampling of 1000 phone interviews, showing Conservatives heading for oblivion.

Online polls are inherently prone to inaccuracies. The reason phone surveys tend to be more accurate overall is they include the opinions of people who don't usually take part in polls, but, for that one call, decide to take part for one reason or another.

[thurmas]

Pcs increasing minimum wage to 15 bucks an hour just before 2023 election. Desperate they certainly are.

[rrskylar]

Originally Posted by thurmas

Pcs increasing minimum wage to 15 bucks an hour just before 2023 election. Desperate they certainly are.

Better than the speNDP saying they wouldn't raise the PST in election promises and doing just that after being elected!

[thebasketballgeek]

The majority of users here might viscerally hate this current government but they are making all of us suckers work again one way or another.

LABOUR FORCE STATISTICS FOR JULY SHOW MANITOBA HAD LOWEST UNEMPLOYMENT RATE ON RECORD

The latest economic indicators from Statistics Canada show Manitoba’s employment numbers increased by 2,500 jobs from June to July, with the unemployment rate dropping to 3.5 per cent, setting a record as the lowest percentage the province has seen since the labour force statistics series started in 1976, Premier Heather Stefanson announced today.

“Today’s record labour force numbers continue to demonstrate the steps our government has taken with job-growth initiatives which have been crucial for both businesses and Manitobans attempting to get back to work,” said Stefanson. “Our government is focused on creating opportunities for strong economic recovery and job growth, and we will continue to focus on targeted investments to ensure our labour force continues to be strengthened and remains competitive in the global economy.”

Manitoba’s overall job numbers, the number of individuals working both full time and part time, in July increased to 673,200, compared to 670,700 in June, noted Economic Development, Investment and Trade Minister Cliff Cullen.

“We have been a leader in Canada with some of the most effective economic development and support programs that help Manitoba’s businesses and workers,” said Cullen. “Since taking office in 2016, a major focus of our government has been to strengthen the economy and focus on getting Manitobans back to work. Increased employment opportunities throughout the province are a testament to the success of our hospitality sector supports, Healthy Hire Manitoba Program, Wage Subsidy Program and other critical employment programs.”

In Manitoba, part-time employment was up by 3,500 jobs, a 2.7 per cent increase, ranking first in Canada and placing Manitoba well above the national average, which recorded a decrease of 0.5 per cent.

The youth unemployment rate also decreased 3.8 percentage points to four per cent (compared to the national average of 9.2 per cent), giving Manitoba the lowest youth unemployment rate in Canada.

You know with all this productivity we are providing the government at some point there's gotta be a reward for the citizens right?