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Old Posted Nov 19, 2020, 4:21 PM
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Forbes 2020 Billionaire Census by City

It's been a while since Ive seen a thread on this topic so here's an update.

So Forbes has this map you can navigate through that has the number of billionaires there are in individual areas. I combined them by CSA(for example, I combined NY and Fairfield county). I wish I was better versed at German metro configurations because there are so many close to each other but I wasnt sure if they could be considered a single area? Same goes for the Pearl River Delta and Yangtze River Delta, massive concentrations of billionaires but Im not sure about merging them.

I selected cities with 10 or more.

Forbes Billionaires by City, 2020:
134 New York
95 San Francisco
71 Hong Kong
70 Moscow
67 Beijing
62 Los Angeles
58 London
46 Shanghai
44 Shenzhen
40 Miami
38 Mumbai
30 Singapore
29 Guangzhou
28 Seoul
26 Hangzhou
24 Taipei
23 Dallas
19 Istanbul
19 Sao Paulo
18 Boston
18 Delhi
18 Paris
17 Bangkok
17 Tokyo
16 Chicago
16 Stockholm
15 Houston
15 Washington
14 Manila
14 Ningbo
13 Madrid
12 Atlanta
12 Bangalore
12 Chengdu
12 Toronto
11 Dubai
11 Geneva
11 Mexico City
11 Milan
11 Montreal
11 Seattle
11 Xiamen
10 Phoenix
10 Rio de Janeiro
10 Sydney
10 Tel Aviv

Here's the link to their interactive map: https://www.forbes.com/billionaires/

Here's North America's Areas by Forbes' own boundaries--before I merged a bunch of them together...
116 Greater New York Area
64 Greater San Francisco Area
55 Greater Los Angeles Area
37 Greater Palm Beach Area
25 Greater Palo Alto Area
23 Greater Dallas Area
16 Greater Boston Area
16 Greater Chicago Area
15 Greater Greenwich Area
15 Greater Houston Area
12 Atlanta, GA
12 Greater Washington DC Area
11 Mexico City, DF
11 Montreal, QC
10 Greater Phoenix Area
10 Greater Seattle Area
9 Toronto, ON
8 Austin, TX
8 Greater Las Vegas Area
6 Greater Denver Area
6 Greater Detroit Area
6 Greater Tampa Area
5 Greater Bryn Mawr Area
5 Greater San Diego Area
5 Naples, FL
5 Vancouver, BC
4 Greater Nashville Area
4 Greater Oakland Area
4 Greater Oklahoma City Area
4 Greater Ventura Area
4 Jackson, WY
4 St Louis, MO
3 Cary, NC
3 Cleveland, OH
3 Greater Baltimore Area
3 Greater Portland Area
3 Omaha, NE
3 Provo, Utah
3 Racine, WI
3 San Antonio, TX
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Old Posted Nov 19, 2020, 4:40 PM
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It's crazy that they separate NY from Greenwich, CT, which is a suburb of NYC.

SF and Miami are out of control for cities their size.
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I expected Seattle to have more billionaires.
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For Canada, one really sees the legacy of Montreal having been the country's biggest city for two centuries. Even if Toronto now has 2 million more people and is the HQ for corporate Canada.
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Very surprised at Tokyo having so few
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Surprised to see Toronto with such low numbers for being the premier city of Canada. It's on the level of Atlanta, Phoenix, and Seattle in the US.
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Surprised to see Toronto with such low numbers for being the premier city of Canada. It's on the level of Atlanta, Phoenix, and Seattle in the US.
Well I think it's telling that most of these cities are in countries that have much fewer regulations for speculation, monopolies, tax loopholes (i.e., the tools necessary to create billionaires), so it tends to skew against countries like Canada that value protections for the middle and lower classes. In an America that didn't have levels of class divisions not seen outside of 2nd world countries, NYC would have maybe 20-25 billionaires and not 134.
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Surprised to see Toronto with such low numbers for being the premier city of Canada. It's on the level of Atlanta, Phoenix, and Seattle in the US.
I sort of answered your question just above.
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Greater Bryn Mawr area? Lol... do you mean Greater Philadelphia area?
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Greater Bryn Mawr area? Lol... do you mean Greater Philadelphia area?
I know, its weird. That's how Forbes titled that area, Philly was separate.
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Greater Bryn Mawr area? Lol... do you mean Greater Philadelphia area?
Philadelphia? Never heard of it. Is that near Bryn Mawr?


I see Pittsburgh isn't on the list. We had 4 in recent times but 2 died of old age and one new one moved his home & business here so we are currently at 3:
1.) Joe Hardy (84 Lumber)
2.) Stanley Druckenmiller (Financier)
3.) Thomas Tull (Movie studio, tech startups & prof sports owner)
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Very surprised at Tokyo having so few
I think Tokyo used to be #1 in the 80s but their economy hasn't been that great. I remember in the early 90s I read some Fortune list of the richest Billionaires and like 15-20 were Japanese of the top 50, now it's like 2.
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^ Well yeah, that's gotta be the weirdest video I've seen this week so far...
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I'm amazed at how many billionaires London and Moscow have lost. I think that they used to be somewhat close to NY. Miami's numbers have risen a lot.
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I'm amazed at how many billionaires London and Moscow have lost. I think that they used to be somewhat close to NY. Miami's numbers have risen a lot.
It could just be differing methodology re. domicile. Billionaires will very likely have multiple homes.
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It could just be differing methodology re. domicile. Billionaires will very likely have multiple homes.
I'm sure that the ones in NY, London, and Russia all have homes in at least NY, London, and South Florida.
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I'm amazed at how many billionaires London and Moscow have lost. I think that they used to be somewhat close to NY. Miami's numbers have risen a lot.
Bear in mind the 'Greater New York area' includes Philadelphia CSA.

The Hurun billionaire list differs also:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...f_billionaires
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Bear in mind the 'Greater New York area' includes Philadelphia CSA.
No, it doesn't.

The NY and Philly areas are separate UAs, MSAs and CSAs. There's no Census metric where the two are combined.

And the Philly metro is on the list, separately, listed twice (Philly and Main Line).
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And the Philly metro is on the list, separately, listed twice (Philly and Main Line).
Absolutely incorrect. (Crawford Running Lies Tally +1.)

The Philly metro appears only once on Forbes' list; it's called Greater Bryn Mawr Area. (Seems to be a bastion of Philly Old Money, I had to look it up.)
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Absolutely incorrect. (Crawford Running Lies Tally +1.)

The Philly metro appears only once on Forbes' list; it's called Greater Bryn Mawr Area. (Seems to be a bastion of Philly Old Money, I had to look it up.)
The map shows that Bryn Mawr and Philadelphia are listed separately.
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