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I agree with Zerton, cantilevers can be lovely when done right, perhaps it's just the renderings on this (they always tend to exaggerate) but this one has the childishness of "look Ma, no hands!" rather than form follows function. It appears unstable and if the official renderings are correct, mars the view of the area imho. That said, the details are gorgeous and it doesn't need a post-trendy, played-out "off kilter boxes" aesthetic to be stunning. There's a difference between clever and arrogant, I certainly wouldn't be upset
if it's built, more disappointed at the missed opportunity.

I don't know about anyone else, but the only time I want to see a building that appears unstable is at an amusement park or World's Expo.


Nonsense. The angle that shows the stepped back profile is distorted a little. If it’s a littke “arrogant’ to get us a distinctive design, especially in an area that could use one, then so be it. If it were just another tall, glass blue box, people would be bitchin about that. But save your worry until the tower is actually selected to be built.

For me, I have no problem with it at all. Didnt have a problem with BIG’s version at 2 WTC, and no problem here. It’s people with your thinking that worry the Steinway tower is going to tip over.
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Let's wait until a developer is picked, but overall I'm quite fine with this tower as envisioned. I think as people get used to it, should it become the development picked, they'll really start appreciating that it has some similarities, pays some homages while essentially forming its own character. And its textural brilliance is top notch... details and everything. Until we know more about the ultimate choice, that's all I will say about this one for now. But it really could be an iconic site in the skyline of the new midtown.
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Yeah how about we all wait until a design is actually for sure chosen before we get into way too heated arguments about it?
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It's crazy to imagine that 30HY and One Vanderbilt will both be dethroned in their immediate neighbourhood less than a decade after their completion. They both felt huge for their time (at least to me); New York is gaining skyscrapers at a breakneck pace!
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It's crazy to imagine that 30HY and One Vanderbilt will both be dethroned in their immediate neighborhood less than a decade after their completion. They both felt huge for their time (at least to me); New York is gaining skyscrapers at a breakneck pace!
Yeah and knowing how tall they are it's crazy to think that they're going to be dwarfed by those two.
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It's crazy to imagine that 30HY and One Vanderbilt will both be dethroned in their immediate neighbourhood less than a decade after their completion.
Yep, I bet 1 Vandy regrets having shaved off 100+ ft! Let this be a lesson for future NYC developers: always shoot for the greatest height possible!
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Yep, I bet 1 Vandy regrets having shaved off 100+ ft! Let this be a lesson for future NYC developers: always shoot for the greatest height possible!
In a recent FT article, SL Green’s CEO, Marc Halliday, said that he wished he had another twenty floors to lease at 1 Vandy. 175 Park is going to be an unparalleled, iconic champion.
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In a recent FT article, SL Green’s CEO, Marc Halliday, said that he wished he had another twenty floors to lease at 1 Vandy. 175 Park is going to be an unparalleled, iconic champion.
Yeah sometimes they have to think in the long term. That's why sometimes when you have a developer with an ego, it can be nice. Yeah it may be risky at times but if the risk pays off, we'll end up with a tower that is truly iconic.

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I agree with Zerton, cantilevers can be lovely when done right, perhaps it's just the renderings on this (they always tend to exaggerate) but this one has the childishness of "look Ma, no hands!" rather than form follows function. It appears unstable and if the official renderings are correct, mars the view of the area imho. That said, the details are gorgeous and it doesn't need a post-trendy, played-out "off kilter boxes" aesthetic to be stunning. There's a difference between clever and arrogant, I certainly wouldn't be upset
if it's built, more disappointed at the missed opportunity.

I don't know about anyone else, but the only time I want to see a building that appears unstable is at an amusement park or World's Expo.
Besides the specifics of the site layout with MTA, I’m also surprised no one has brought up that the highest floors are the most desirable and profitable. Makes sense to maximize them. You’d think more towers in the future would take this approach when allowed
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CPT should also been regretted for losing its cool pinnacle. And One57 losing near-400 feet too.
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CPT should also been regretted for losing its cool pinnacle. And One57 losing near-400 feet too.
I had no idea One57 was going to be so tall initially, what was the original height exactly?


I hope this proposal is more than a pipe dream though, Hudson Yards needs a signature tower of this caliber.
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I had no idea One57 was going to be so tall initially, what was the original height exactly?


I hope this proposal is more than a pipe dream though, Hudson Yards needs a signature tower of this caliber.
According to this website, cited in Wiki, "Initially, One57 was to rise more than 1,400 feet, but due to the recession and failure to acquire an adjacent lot, its height was scaled back."

https://www.6sqft.com/so-you-think-y...g-about-one57/
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One57 is the godfather that started it all. It was like the singularity in the big bang that led to the big boom of super talls. And like the expansion that resulted, they are still growing!
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