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bomberjet · #**1081** Posted **Feb 25, 2016, 4:30 AM**

Image 4, Carlton street is on the right, with the hotel on extreme right. Looking south from skywalk at tower 2. Hotel doesn't quite match.

Image 7, you're standing at Graham and Hargrave. SE corner looking SW, walkway into City Place is overhead. Looks like tower 1 does not extend all the way out on the main floor.

CoryB · #**1082** Posted **Feb 25, 2016, 6:11 AM**

I am betting True North Sports move the bulk of their offices to the top floor of tower 2. They will then have a smallish lobby for interaction with the public and to pre screen people to the direct elevator to the corporate office.

On the Sutton Place residences, on top of the podium look for things like guest suites, exercise rooms, party rooms and maybe even some hotel rentable meeting rooms. That will use up some of the lower floors.

As for tower 1 watch Longboat, Birchwood, etc to move corporate offices in there if they need to fill up space. Interestingly the Chipman family account hasn't announced they are relocating their offices yet. Bet that could be another card to play.

In terms of tower 2 it might happen that Longboat holds a number of the residential units as rentals for team related personal, ie the Jets just traded for you don't worry we got a place for you to stay...

Only The Lonely.. · #**1083** Posted **Feb 25, 2016, 7:04 AM**

Four new towers in one afternoon. A good day for the city.

buzzg · #**1084** Posted **Feb 25, 2016, 9:07 AM**

I know Gusto Group has secured one of the main floor restaurant locations already.

cllew · #**1085** Posted **Feb 25, 2016, 10:09 AM**

From what I could see tonight when I came into work the whole west side of City Place is taken up with the Shark Club / Gaming center up to the food court. There is a "bulkhead" at the end of the escalator lobby which I guess is the passage from the kitchen to the actual club.

bomberjet · #**1086** Posted **Feb 25, 2016, 2:57 PM**

So they'll have to carve up something to make it fit. Seems to me the most logical place would be through the backside of the gaming lounge. Only other option would be the escalator lobby. Having a skywalk run right through the restaurant would just be silly.

The Unknown Poster · #**1087** Posted **Feb 25, 2016, 3:29 PM**

Regarding Shark Club, is there any possibility of relocating it entirely into the TNS development and giving it more space with a possible larger "gaming centre". If the province wanted a downtown casino, this would seem like an ideal location.

The Unknown Poster · #**1088** Posted **Feb 25, 2016, 3:30 PM**

Also, is there a chance people who have put down deposits for Skycity would switch to TNS? if I was in the market for a downtown condo, I think I'd prefer this development.

Hopefully Skycity still proceeds and this causes them to up the amenities and environment around their development.

TimeFadesAway · #**1089** Posted **Feb 25, 2016, 3:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by The Unknown Poster

Also, is there a chance people who have put down deposits for Skycity would switch to TNS? if I was in the market for a downtown condo, I think I'd prefer this development.

Hopefully Skycity still proceeds and this causes them to up the amenities and environment around their development.

Realistically, once the cooling off period is over, someone would pretty much have to leave their deposit on the table if they wanted to switch to TNS.

Also, despite what some think, SkyCity is closer to becoming a reality right now than the condo units in TNS. They are actively marketing and look to be at almost 75% of their presale goal. That puts them at potentially 3 years or so from occupancy (I know I'm being a bit ambitious). TNS hasn't even started marketing their condos and the 'shovels in the ground' appear to be for the office tower. Anyone looking at wanting to occupy or get an investment return in the next 4-5 years would probably be better off with SkyCity at the moment. Especially if they've already committed to SkyCity.

bomberjet · #**1090** Posted **Feb 25, 2016, 4:02 PM**

^Ya SkyCity is supposed to be under construction early 2017. Remember they have their excavation permit!

IMO, the timing of both developments couldn't be much better. SkyCity is/will be reaching their presale goal, just as TNS will be bringing their marketing campaign for condos online. SkyCity gets under construction. Then all the condo buyers can switch to TNS! And we SSP forumers get everything we wanted!

bomberjet · #**1091** Posted **Feb 25, 2016, 5:06 PM**

Also, looks like the parkade will extend across the entire site. Not just relegated to below one building or another. It appears the lower level of the 2 is slightly smaller.

DowntownBooster · #**1092** Posted **Feb 25, 2016, 5:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by The Unknown Poster

Regarding Shark Club, is there any possibility of relocating it entirely into the TNS development and giving it more space with a possible larger "gaming centre". If the province wanted a downtown casino, this would seem like an ideal location.

I hope the Shark Club remains in CityPlace as it was a nice addition to the mall. It's proximity to the MTS Centre is also beneficial to those patrons that will also be attending events there.

Cyro · #**1093** Posted **Feb 25, 2016, 5:28 PM**

^^ Hard to tell from this image but it very well could, 2 levels, 228 stalls.

Tower 1

http://www.truenorthsquare.com/devel...-availability/

-2 Level Underground Parkade:
-3 floors of Podium all leased.
-1 Level above podium leased
-Floors 13-17 leased.

Leaving 8 floors still available..

esquire · #**1094** Posted **Feb 25, 2016, 5:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by DowntownBooster

I hope the Shark Club remains in CityPlace as it was a nice addition to the mall. It's proximity to the MTS Centre is also beneficial to those patrons that will also be attending events there.

Shark Club will remain in one format or another since the VLT money is indirectly subsidizing the Jets. It wouldn't be a tragedy if they moved to another spot within Cityplace.

It will be interesting to see what impact if any TNS will have on Cityplace... I hope it might help fill the vacant/underused spaces in the mall portion.

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Originally Posted by Cyro

-2 Level Underground Parkade:
-3 floors of Podium all leased.
-At-Grade level space leased
-Floors 13-17 leased.

Leaving 8 floors still available..

So presumably 13-17 is TDS and TNSE? I wonder if Scotiabank will fill the podium, or are they in the upper floors too?

Cyro · #**1095** Posted **Feb 25, 2016, 5:42 PM**

^ I beleive SB took the 3 level podium and the floor above it with the garden terrace area.

I'm not sure how the other tenants are arranged or the top floor..

BigG · #**1096** Posted **Feb 25, 2016, 5:49 PM**

You guys are doing a great job in getting all this information. I'm just taking it all in and really enjoying it. Elation!

Urban recluse · #**1097** Posted **Feb 25, 2016, 5:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by esquire

Shark Club will remain in one format or another since the VLT money is indirectly subsidizing the Jets. It wouldn't be a tragedy if they moved to another spot within Cityplace.

It will be interesting to see what impact if any TNS will have on Cityplace... I hope it might help fill the vacant/underused spaces in the mall portion.

So presumably 13-17 is TDS and TNSE? I wonder if Scotiabank will fill the podium, or are they in the upper floors too?

Cityplace will hopefully benefit from TNS, with lower lease rates. They would be foolish to raise them I would think.

OverUnder · #**1098** Posted **Feb 25, 2016, 5:58 PM**

TDS will be on floors 15-17.

bomberjet · #**1099** Posted **Feb 25, 2016, 6:10 PM**

I think if Shark Club were to ever move, which I don't believe they would, would be more from a physical constraint perspective(ie: the skywalk thing) as opposed to a politco move.

On the parkade extents. If you look at the floor plan PDF's that were posted on the last page, it shows the parkade being across the whole site. So that would mean the entire public square area would be supported on the structural roof of the parkade. This is good news for longevity on the plaza surface. If it was on grade, it would be susceptible to heaving, etc. Over time it would get uglier and rougher. On the structural slab, there would be basically no movement beyond the granular layer above the roof. Keep all the paving stones and concrete nice and level. Nothing worse that a shitty old patio area that's totally uneven. See all the sidewalks downtown that are paving stones. Ugly and uneven.

Cyro · #**1100** Posted **Feb 25, 2016, 6:19 PM**

imho, I don't think the S Club is going anywhere or expanding..but with TNSE/Longboat, they're always willing to throw in a surprise..

Sutton Place Hotel to be completed in 2019? as per freep..today, this entire project seems to be moving at breakneck a speed..