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View Poll Results: Which transbay tower design scheme do you like best?
#1 Richard Rogers 40 8.05%
#2 Cesar Pelli 99 19.92%
#3 SOM 358 72.03%
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I must say, I was not expecting Norman Foster to be eliminated until very deep into the design process. Perhaps with the exception of SF Intl Airport, the notable achievements listed are not too appealing to me, at least for something of this caliber.
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It'd be nice to see Rogers pick up a major US project - he's done some wonderful stuff in Europe over the years.
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I'm not too familiar with architects, but Santiago Calatrava's name definitely stands out to me. I can't wait to see what they come up with!
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This being San Francisco, 350 Mission is no longer 850'. See http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=125819
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Hopefully our other new little 800' tower proposal at 177 Fremont wont suffer the same fate
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Don't worry, with all the projects on the table, and the way the market is in the city, I have a feeling quite a few good things will be built.

It is unthinkable to imagine ALL of the projects would be built, or built as planned. If Transbay really happens and we see at least one 1,000' building, I will be very happy (but I really welcome the transit improvements, and street-level benefits!)
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Hopefully our other new little 800' tower proposal at 177 Fremont wont suffer the same fate
Oh, my. Now I get these sites all mixed up in my head. But today's BizTimes also has this to say:

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SKS Development . . . is reportedly taking a hard look at 185 Fremont St., a potential office development site in Foundry Square. Across the street from the Barclay's Building under construction at Foundry Square I, the site was pitched as a home for a 23-story, 250,000 square foot office tower. Sources say SKS is leaning toward a mixed use building with office and residential units.
Am I wrong in thinking that 177 and 185 Fremont are really part of the same site? If so, I'm not sure what this story means for your 800 footer. But if it was proposed at 23 stories, could it suddenly grow to 800 feet?
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Well, I dont remember exactly, but I think 177-183 Fremont is the larger building to the north (closest to the Transbay Terminal). That site is proposed for the 800' tower. The smaller bordering building to the south, I believe, is 185 Fremont, or what these guys are looking at. So if everything goes as they say, I think we'll end up with an 800' tower and a shorter ~300' midrise next to it.
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I am not sure exactly where 185 Fremont is, but I was able to scrounge up this...
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177 & 183 Fremont

The map is exactly right. There is only 177 and 183 Fremont. Those two small parcels. Where it says 193 I think is the entrance way to the tall building in back 199 Fremont with the small plaza in front (and behind 177 and 183). Not sure where 185 came from. I know a couple of people who work for SKS maybe I should ask one of them next week and report back.
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courtesy of Jack from SFCityscape...and the Transbay Redevelopment District..


http://www.sfcityscape.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=35
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Woo hoo! Lets see how many of these so called 'limits' we can shatter!
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It'd be nice to see Rogers pick up a major US project
world trade center.

buy yeah it would be great for him to get more projects here.... the other guys, calatrava, pelli, and som all have many other current projects in the US.
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From the Transbay CAC Housing Presentation of March 14, 2007:
http://sfgov.org/site/sfra_page.asp?id=5583#D4D

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Intresting graphic. Me, personally, I hope they shatter these height limits. That proposed unlimited height and FAR is something I'd like to learn more about.
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The "Unrestriced FAR, height" zone might not be in the same area as shown in the "Zone One Plan" above:

From Transbay Dowtown Heights Study, May 31, 2006
http://sfgov.org/site/uploadedfiles/...20Proposal.pdf
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I would think that the Transit Tower falls inside this zone, but I'm not so sure about Piano's 5 towers. I havent heard exactly what the boundaries of this zone is, but it looks to be in the vicinity of this Zone 1.
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So far, every new building in San Francisco discussed or conceptualized at 700 feet or taller on this forum, including all the Piano Towers, will be within the planned unlimited height and FAR zone. 555 Mission, 535 Mission, Millenium Tower and 524 Howard will also be within this possible new zone, but are projects constructed, or may be constructed before any upzoning approvals occur in or around 2009. At least, the final height of 350 Mission may be pending such an upzoning approval. If upzoning is approved as currently planned, the entire unlimited height and FAR zone will be within a 2/3 block area, north, south and adjacent to the new Transbay Terminal only.
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Right, thats the idea I had too, just wase'nt very clear on it. Thanks for clearing that up.
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March 1, 2007 Stage II Briefing presentation on the Transbay Center and Tower (pdf):
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Likely max height will fall in 800'-1,200' range
http://www.transbaycenter.org/TransB...PA%20FINAL.pdf
Plenty of nice diagrams, preliminary (pre-competition) CAD drawings and renderings - mention of other current and new development sites surrounding the terminal.
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