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Old Posted Jul 11, 2019, 12:59 AM
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Well, I mean, the "progressive" part is blatant false advertising at this point, and "conservative" is only loosely associated with their policies. They're more like the Radically Austere Party.
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Ontario’s deficit jumped to $7.4B last year, fiscal watchdog says
The Financial Accountability Office says the $3.7-billion deficit in former premier Kathleen Wynne’s final full year in office ballooned to $7.4 billion under Premier Doug Ford due in part to cancelled initiatives and subsidizing hydro bills.

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Ontario's budget deficit doubled in size last year due to mostly to "policy choices by both the previous and current governments," says the province's independent fiscal watchdog.

The Financial Accountability Office says the $3.7-billion deficit in former premier Kathleen Wynne's final full year in office ballooned to $7.4 billion under Premier Doug Ford due in part to cancelled climate-change initiatives and subsidizing hydro bills.

"This sharp rise was largely the result of policy choices by both the previous and current governments — including the cancellation of the cap-and-trade program and higher spending on electricity subsidies," the FAO said Thursday.

That's a reference to Ford's decision to withdraw Ontario from its carbon-pricing alliance with Quebec and California, which cost the treasury $1.9 billion in revenues that were earmarked for environmental programs.

The FAO also noted the previous Liberal government's sell-off of the majority share in Hydro One "temporarily" bolstered the bottom line in 2017-18.

"Fewer asset sales in 2018-19 resulted in a $900-million reduction in sales and rentals revenue when compared to 2017-18," the watchdog said.

"A further consequence of Hydro One's partial sale was an Ontario Energy Board ruling that resulted in a one-time, $400-million reduction in the province's revenue received from the corporation in 2018-19," the office added.

"In addition, the debt retirement charge was removed from non-residential electricity bills on March 31, 2018, which permanently lowered non-tax revenue by $600 million beginning in 2018-19."

The fiscal office said "Ministry of Energy expenditures increased at the fastest rate, largely due to the sharply higher cost of electricity subsidies.

"The government spent $4.2 billion subsidizing electricity prices in 2018-19, an increase of almost 50 per cent from $2.8 billion in 2017-18."

While Ford's government has promised to decrease hydro bills by an additional 12 per cent, the government has yet to determine how that will happen.

In Kenora on Wednesday, the premier stressed his focus is on "putting money back into people's pockets."
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2019, 2:53 AM
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So we've lost funding to a wide variety of things AND we have more debt? Awesome!!
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So we've lost funding to a wide variety of things AND we have more debt? Awesome!!
Who would have thought the party that didn't release its fiscal plan during the election campaign would have screwed it up this badly, right?
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Who would have thought the party that didn't release its fiscal plan during the election campaign would have screwed it up this badly, right?
Well you know, with decades of experience, Doug Ford is a skilled enough politician to just wing it.
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Federal Liberals took all GTA ridings except three (Thornhill - Markham, Aurora - Oak Ridges - Richmond Hill and Markham - Unionville). After all, the Ford factor really played a decisive role eh?
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Federal Liberals took all GTA ridings except three (Thornhill - Markham, Aurora - Oak Ridges - Richmond Hill and Markham - Unionville). After all, the Ford factor really played a decisive role eh?
Might show that the Federal Conservatives made a huge error in judgement in parking Ford out of sight.
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This is technically Federal Politics, but the new Kenora MP is young! Even I’m older than him. :o (I have quite a few friends in his age range too.)
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Old Posted Oct 24, 2019, 2:14 AM
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He wasn't old enough to vote in the last election. This is the first time he's voted federally, and it was for himself.
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Might show that the Federal Conservatives made a huge error in judgement in parking Ford out of sight.
You'd think so. But look at the margins in some of these GTA ridings, I doubt Ford would have helped that much. You'd get the Prairie effect. Drive out the base in ridings there were favoured to win anyway.
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Too bad (most likely) the party insiders wrecked him.

If it weren’t for his alleged misdemeanours back in the days, he could have fared so much better.

Now I’m wondering: As PC’s leaning further right and Liberals further left, is it possible for someone to start a centrist party and steal votes from both?
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I think he will do a come back. If Andrew Scheer gets fired, or loses in the next election, Patrick Brown will run for the federal Conservative leadership and probably do very well. If Ford loses the next election, Patrick Brown will probably be the top pick to replace him.

If Justin Trudeau can be elected after all of his scandals (blackface, elbowgate, SNC-Lavalin to name a few), then Patrick Brown's single accusation of underage drinking that was never followed up in the courts likely won't be that big a deal for him.
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I think he will do a come back. If Andrew Scheer gets fired, or loses in the next election, Patrick Brown will run for the federal Conservative leadership and probably do very well. If Ford loses the next election, Patrick Brown will probably be the top pick to replace him.

If Justin Trudeau can be elected after all of his scandals (blackface, elbowgate, SNC-Lavalin to name a few), then Patrick Brown's single accusation of underage drinking that was never followed up in the courts likely won't be that big a deal for him.
The alleged sexual scandal that ousted him in early 2018 though...
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The alleged sexual scandal that ousted him in early 2018 though...
Didn't have any impact on him in Brampton, most people have forgotten, the media hasn't followed up, the victim hasn't filed charges.

There isn't much scandal there. The entire thing was rushed, within hours of it being breaking news he was forced to resign, and then every leader that ran was coerced into pledging to eliminate any form of carbon pricing. I honestly don't think it will be that much of an obstacle because it was PC insiders trying to undermine him. There is still uncertainty as to what exactly happened both on the night of the alleged assault and on the night he was ousted.

And, sure, he might have actually done it, and I can understand why the accusers wouldn't press charges or take the story any further, but in essence, this means it has just become a regrettable past misjudgment. Like when Trudeau wore blackface. Or the second time Trudeau wore blackface. Or when Trudeau groped a woman at a festival. Or the third time Trudeau wore blackface. Or when Ruth Ellen Brosseau titted Trudeau's elbow. Or when he forced three women out of his party because they told the truth about him. I think people might be a little bit willing to put the past in the past with Patrick Brown, especially if he presents as a decent alternative to Trudeau. I think everyone at CPC HQ knows that Patrick Brown as federal leader will sweep Ontario. (Western Canada has nowhere else to go; if Patrick Brown runs on a carbon tax it isn't like Western Canada will vote solidly Liberal!) I am a socialist and I would probably be OK with Patrick Brown as premier or prime minister.
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Yea I hope he takes over the federal conservative too. If he goes for the provincial one, that's like giving Jason Kenny a freebie for the federal one, and from the looks of it, nobody likes that.
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The problem for Patrick Brown is being a conservative, not a liberal, and he doesn't make people warm and fuzzy and moist like Trudeau does. His past alleged scandals won't get brushed away like Trudeau's actual ones.
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I'm interested in who the next Liberal leader will be.
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Old Posted Oct 30, 2019, 11:27 PM
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The problem for Patrick Brown is being a conservative, not a liberal, and he doesn't make people warm and fuzzy and moist like Trudeau does. His past alleged scandals won't get brushed away like Trudeau's actual ones.
Trudeau will have plenty more scandals. He's already on an edge as it is. Brown might not be warm and fuzzy, but if he runs with a viable climate plan, he'll overtake Trudeau in Ontario.
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I wonder how likeable he is even among the federal conservatives though.

If he decides to start his own federal party though, I’m sure he’ll steal votes from both conservatives and liberals. I wanna see that happen. (Bloc doesn’t count.)
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