NEW YORK | 200 Amsterdam Avenue | 684 FT | 51 FLOORS

[Sic'EmBears]

Originally Posted by gttx

Replacing a synagogue with a 666' tower? Watch out!

Sounds like it was on purpose.

[NYguy]

https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external...13680619&row=0

Structure Height: 684

[NYguy]

https://therealdeal.com/2017/04/11/t...ject-possible/

The zoning lot tricks that made Mitsui Fudosan, SJP’s 51-story UWS project possible
Developers benefit from the drawing of creative geographical boundaries





April 11, 2017

Politicians aren’t the only people who gerrymander. Developers are also embracing the practice of drawing creative geographical boundaries to fit their interests, as the example of one Upper West Side zoning lot shows.

Mitsui Fudosan and SJP Properties are able to build a 668-foot-tall condo tower at Amsterdam Avenue and 69th Street because its zoning lot covers several separate parcels connected by thin slivers of land, Crain’s reported.

The site’s previous owners expanded the zoning lot to more than 100,000 square feet by buying air rights from nearby properties. The planned tower’s actual physical footprint, in contrast, will be a mere 10,800 square feet.

“Whoever thought this up is very creative,” planning consultant George Janes told Crain’s.

SJP and Mitsui Fudosan bought the parcel at 200 Amsterdam Avenue for $275 million in 2015 and filed plans for a 51-story, 112-unit tower a year later.

My response to this is, AND?

[chris08876]

An illustration of the zoning parcels.


Credit: crains

[chris08876]

Credit: chused

[TechTalkGuy]

This is a tower the city can be proud of.

[gttx]

Originally Posted by chris08876

An illustration of the zoning parcels.


Credit: crains

Amazing!

Maybe the city shouldn't have closed off those streets. Who would have thought bad urbanism has unintended consequences?

[Busy Bee]

Love the wedding cake

[dumbo]

Originally Posted by chris08876

An illustration of the zoning parcels.

lolwat

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by TechTalkGuy

This is a tower the city can be proud of.

Lets get some of this in LIC.

[chris08876]

Credit: chused

[NYguy]

https://ny.curbed.com/2017/5/16/1564...side-challenge

Upper West Side's tallest proposed tower faces stiff local opposition
Residents are arguing that this is another case of “zoning gymnastics”





BY TANAY WARERKAR
MAY 16, 2017

Plans to build Upper West Side’s tallest building on the site of the old Lincoln Square synagogue at Amsterdam Avenue and West 69th Street is facing stiff opposition from local residents, Crain’s reports.

Neighborhood group, Committee for Environmentally Sound Development, has filed a challenge with the city’s Department of Building over the project at 200 Amsterdam Avenue. The group is challenging the existing zoning of the lot, which has allowed the developers to cobble together rights from adjacent properties, to build the 668-foot tower.

This week, Manhattan Borough President Gale Brewer, and the City Council member representing this area, Helen Rosenthal also threw their support behind this challenge to the tower, arguing that the building is totally out of context in this part of the Upper West Side.

Earlier today, Rosenthal and Brewer organized a rally in opposition to the project.

"This zoning challenge is the community’s opportunity to be heard and to ensure that its interests are protected,” Rosenthal said in a statement. “There is reason to believe that the current proposal at 200 Amsterdam Avenue is non-compliant with the zoning code in several respects.”

The developers behind the project, SJP Properties and Mitsui Fudosan America, have created a zoning lot, which in addition to the 200 Amsterdam site, includes all or parts of five tax lots on West End Avenue. This, Rosenthal argues, is all gerrymandering over one giant block.

In a statement to Crain’s, the developers maintained that “the building is being built in full compliance with all zoning.” It’s now up to the DOB to decide whether this project continues to move forward.

DDG’s condo on the Upper East Side is facing similar opposition from locals there over allegedly manipulating a zoning requirement to build a taller tower.

http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article...TATE/170519920

[yankeesfan1000]

God... Community boards have wayyyyy too much say/power in this city. We need to create a pro development counterweight.

[Busy Bee]

Originally Posted by yankeesfan1000

God... Community boards have wayyyyy too much say/power in this city. We need to create a pro development counterweight.

It's called the market. These bozos can't stop that...

[NYguy]

The problem is not so much the NIMBYs as it is politicians like Gale Brewer who herself is Queen of the NIMBYs. She would tear Manhattan down if she could.

But the problem with their "challenge" to tge DOB is that if the developer is legally within what he is allowed to build, you can't just stop it. Brewer knows this, of course.

[citybooster]

Look at how much they screwed up housing in San Francisco with stiff limits in height and density... NIMBYs tend far more than not to make things worse for everybody. I hate when they bleat on about how "out of character" or "out of scale" it is with the neighborhood... hopefully the DOB will not let this wave of criticism, especially from the borough president Brewer, dissuade them from approval of a great building.

[yankeesfan1000]

Originally Posted by Busy Bee

It's called the market. These bozos can't stop that...

NIMBYs stop/reduce the height of buildings all the time. The market isn't being allowed to operate, partially because of them.

[ATLksuGUY]

Originally Posted by yankeesfan1000

NIMBYs stop/reduce the height of buildings all the time. The market isn't being allowed to operate, partially because of them.

The funny thing is, her offices are on the 19th floor of the building and on google earth it casts a shadow over the nearby buildings. Should we file a demand that her offices be demolished and moved to the back of a 1 story office park as to not interfere with anyones views? I am sure her residence could be construed as blocking someones view at some point in history as well. She is delusional.

[chris08876]

EARLY-MORNING PROTEST PLANNED AGAINST NEIGHBORHOOD’S TALLEST TOWER

“There is reason to believe that the current proposal at 200 Amsterdam Avenue is non-compliant with the zoning code in several respects,” Rosenthal wrote in a statement.

Rosenthal’s opponent for the City Council race, Mel Wymore, also plans to attend the rally, and has criticized Rosenthal for responding too slowly. “We need forward-thinking leadership,” he added in an email to supporters.

Council member Helen Rosenthal and preservationist group Landmark West are leading a rally on Tuesday morning at 8:30 a.m. to oppose the construction of a 668-foot tall apartment building at 200 Amsterdam Avenue (69th Street).

The rally will take place in front of the site at 200 Amsterdam, which is now a bulldozed lot. It formerly held the Lincoln Square Synagogue, which has moved a block away.

The tower, which would be the tallest structure north of midtown, has been in the works for years and has received Buildings Department approvals. But opposition has recently intensified and opponents were planning to file an eleventh-hour zoning challenge on Monday to derail construction. They say it’s out of scale with the neighborhood.

A presentation by zoning expert George Janes, who spoke to opponents earlier this month, is here. Landmark West is helping raise money to fund the legal challenge, securing a $5,000 challenge grant.

The developers were able to piece together a complicated lot that allows them to build a higher building than if they had just used the smallish lot where the building is located. While the developers say it’s fully legal and compliant with city rules, opponents are doing their best to find any problems that can be challenged.

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http://www.westsiderag.com/2017/05/1...-tallest-tower

[mrnyc]

now this is what you call a classy tower -- i hope they pull it off.

i didn't realize the synagogue was that brutalist one over there -- it was an eyesore.