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Old Posted Jun 21, 2020, 5:35 PM
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It was their work that saddled us with ridiculous viewplane laws, and both HRMxD and the Centre Plan were watered down with height limits that satisfied them and their supporters. For decades they have focused on building height as the enemy of heritage for reasons that I have never understood.
I think the ramparts bylaw must be the worst. It imposes significant planning constraints over a large area in exchange for a narrow benefit. This was a "bug, not a feature" for the HT, who wanted pretexts for discouraging development.

The biggest philosophical problem I had with that crowd is they seemed to view the economy and development vs. heritage preservation or quality of life as an either-or question. I see growth and development as a source of money and resources that can be used to preserve heritage buildings and make the city better. I don't think that all happens magically with growth but I think the HT strategy was much worse.
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Old Posted Jun 23, 2020, 4:55 AM
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Many interesting points here.

I agree about the ramparts. However I do wonder why they had such resounding success there, yet have only appeared to have limited success in preserving notable buildings in the core of the city.

So, would it be accurate to say they had more success in preventing development than actually saving heritage buildings/architecture (facades)?

But it seems like it must be a difficult job to save old buildings due to lax rules, and basically the ability of an owner to be able to do whatever they want with it, as long as it doesn't consist of a safety risk to the public (as I suppose it should be their right to do so, given that they are the ones investing -or not- in it, or at least they hold the deed).

Our history is indeed more a concept than a concrete thing, and everybody has different ideas as to what constitutes valued history and what does not. It appears that most people like to see a nice old building, but not many actually have much of an interest beyond that.
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Old Posted Jun 23, 2020, 2:06 PM
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I imagine part of it is that it's easier to prevent someone from doing something (e.g. develop) than it is to force someone to do something (e.g. spend money to save a heritage building). One of those things is passive, and one is active. I guess you could prevent someone from demolishing heritage, but you can't force them to maintain it.
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Is there something wrong with people wanting to protect property values? Is that not an issue for you where you live?
Of course not! As a beneficiary of rising property values I in fact am all for it. I just think it's funny how people view things. Yes, there are no doubt some well meaning people involved in HT who genuinely want good things for the city. But there is (or at least was, until recently?) a very real element that reflexively opposed any and all new development, on the flimsiest grounds. That opposition did stifle development and no doubt contributed to our current housing shortage (<1% rental vacancy etc.).

I find it vaguely amusing when I see the very same people going on about "affordable housing" as who loudly protest and obstruct any development - which of course, along with decreasing demand, is the only real solution to a housing shortage. Needless to say, most of these people have zero need nor real concern around housing affordability. It's a convenient tool, that's all.

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This is how 7135 Bayers Road appears for now. If work begins I'll keep posting photos tagged #7135Bayers (click on photo below for quick access).


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Crane is going up today.
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Old Posted Dec 13, 2020, 6:25 AM
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Saw this posted as an upcoming development on Encore's website. Anyone know anything about this addition to Bearly's? This rendering could be several years old for all I know, and may have already been posted.



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Saw this posted as an upcoming development on Encore's website. Anyone know anything about this addition to Bearly's? This rendering could be several years old for all I know, and may have already been posted.



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They own the Bearly’s site which has a large parking lot out back. That rendering has been floating around for a bit. My recollection is they have been asked about it in an article and stated it was merely an early concept, the intent would be to keep the existing building, but it was still very early in the process.
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They own the Bearly’s site which has a large parking lot out back. That rendering has been floating around for a bit. My recollection is they have been asked about it in an article and stated it was merely an early concept, the intent would be to keep the existing building, but it was still very early in the process.
I would be a fan of this kind of infill along this stretch of Barrington. It's got a great streetscape with a couple holes, and some underused back lots.
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They own the Bearly’s site which has a large parking lot out back. That rendering has been floating around for a bit. My recollection is they have been asked about it in an article and stated it was merely an early concept, the intent would be to keep the existing building, but it was still very early in the process.
Thanks! Bearly’s is such an iconic fixture on the southern end of Barrington, I’m happy about any plans to give the existing building a new lease on life.
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Demolition permits have been issued for 3 / 5 / 7 Chadwick Street, Darmouth. These properties have frontage on Pleasant Street and fall under 'Corridor' zoning. The height maximum is either 11m or 20m so a redevelopment could be up to 6 stories high.
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Thanks! Bearly’s is such an iconic fixture on the southern end of Barrington, I’m happy about any plans to give the existing building a new lease on life.
Yes, I really hope that Bearly's survives and actually is expanded, that's what really needs to happen. Some of those Thursday night shows with the Mellotones you could probably double your occupancy.

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Demolition permits have been issued for 3 / 5 / 7 Chadwick Street, Darmouth. These properties have frontage on Pleasant Street and fall under 'Corridor' zoning. The height maximum is either 11m or 20m so a redevelopment could be up to 6 stories high.
that would be for this proposal on Pleasant

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^Thanks. I've seen the renderings before which would explain why my curiosity led me to post about the demolition permits. I just didn't connect the dots. The project was unveiled in early 2019 and had an open house. There's no records of it ever making it to community council and the project page has been removed. It could be sitting on a planner's desk somewhere at City Hall. I think the more likely scenario is the applicant has removed the application and will go forward under the Centre Plan rules.

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As soon as I have enough information I'll make a thread for this project. My best guess is if demolition is happening now they'll seek approval in Winter 2021 for a next summer construction start. The likely next public step would be a Site Plan Review at DAC.
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I think the more likely scenario is the applicant has removed the application and will go forward under the Centre Plan rules
This is indeed what happened. Applicant had the opportunity to continue the application under the old rules, but opted instead to pull it since what he wants to do is pretty close to what the Centre Plan allows.
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^Thanks Councillor Austin. I wasn't sure if you were still on this forum but when I was researching the project I figured you'd have the information.
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^Thanks Councillor Austin. I wasn't sure if you were still on this forum but when I was researching the project I figured you'd have the information.
I pop in and out from time-to-time
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On top of this there is a murky link between the Heritage Trust and NIMBY activism, with the Heritage Trust sometimes fighting not just to preserve heritage buildings but to preserve empty lots. To people concerned with more than just heritage they may be perceived as a net negative.
Its the same thinking that floated around in relation to the former Ultramar property on Chebucto at Beech and Elm. A tiny group felt it should have been left semi vacant maybe as a bus pull in, or even had restrictions to allow just single family homes. so unrealistic. Most of the immediate neighbourhood either doesn't care about the new development or they're actually happy about it. I live nearby and look forward to some more life in the area as a result of it.
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^Thanks. I've seen the renderings before which would explain why my curiosity led me to post about the demolition permits. I just didn't connect the dots. The project was unveiled in early 2019 and had an open house. There's no records of it ever making it to community council and the project page has been removed. It could be sitting on a planner's desk somewhere at City Hall. I think the more likely scenario is the applicant has removed the application and will go forward under the Centre Plan rules.

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As soon as I have enough information I'll make a thread for this project. My best guess is if demolition is happening now they'll seek approval in Winter 2021 for a next summer construction start. The likely next public step would be a Site Plan Review at DAC.
they were taking the building down today
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Upcoming Major Development On Bayer's Road

Just thought I would throw this teaser out, this is a large upcoming development on Bayer's Road. This was posted on the instagram page.

https://www.instagram.com/connecteastdevelopment/?hl=en

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Just thought I would throw this teaser out, this is a large upcoming development on Bayer's Road. This was posted on the instagram page.
That really is a teaser, I'm left not knowing anything more than "development is happening" hahah! Joking aside, looking forward to more news about the development!
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