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Old Posted Jun 18, 2021, 9:51 PM
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Amazon's last-mile centres often load the vans indoors. This would require multiple ground level doors to drive into and out of the building. The renders only show two, and they're in awkward places more useful for moving the occasional forklift in and out than anything else. There's also no on-site parking for delivery vehicles - there's a staff lot and trailer spaces, but nothing delivery van sized.

This would also be a HUGE facility just to do last-mile, and Amazon doesn't have a last-mile presence in Ottawa. Intelcom does the bulk of their work, and manages that out of a small facility in a light industrial strip mall.

This seems like a proper crossdock facility where trucks are unloaded, items are sorted and warehoused temporarily, generally without any vertical racking, and sent back out again.
I was suggesting it could be both a sort hub and a delivery van depot, similar to Purolator's Kipling Ave location in Toronto.

Amazon is in the process of opening 2 final mile delivery centres in London. One is a new build that has 2 ground level overhead doors for van access. The other is a retrofit of a building that used to have trailer dock doors down one side, but those are having the grade raised to be bumper height for vans. Lots of courier depots are like that as well. I haven't seen what Amazon did with the building they took over in Cambridge to be a delivery depot, but it was a 140,000 sq ft rectangle with 30 or so loading docks on either side and no doors to drive inside. Intelcom currently is one of the main Amazon service providers in London, along with Canada Post and Purolator, but they are planning to add upwards of 150 of their own delivery routes. Their trend is definitely more and more under their own control, and sort hubs are a necessary part of that.
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Old Posted Sep 24, 2021, 12:10 PM
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Planning committee OK's warehouse project despite another blast from opponents

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Publishing date: Sep 23, 2021 • 12 hours ago • 2 minute read




Residents on Thursday had an opportunity to blast a mystery e-commerce warehouse and truck depot eyed for the South Merivale Business Park, only to have City of Ottawa’s planning committee deliver an approval for the site plan.

Medusa Inc./Broccolini was identified as the site plan applicant for 99 Bill Leathem Dr., 2 Leikin Dr. and 20 Leikin Dr. The builder needed the city’s approval of a site plan for how the property is going to function, including details on design, landscaping and traffic access.

Communities around the business park have grown uneasy about the interest in the area shown by warehouse developers.

City planning staff have the authority to approve a site plan unless the ward councillor makes staff win the approval of planning committee. In this case, Gloucester-South Nepean Coun. Carol Anne Meehan forced staff to ask for the committee to make a decision on the warehouse site plan.

The city describes the future facility as having a “light industrial use and associated shipping, receiving, loading, and distribution elements.”

However, the project team hasn’t disclosed which company will be using the warehouse.

All the city knows, according to a planning report, is that the facility will have “a type of assembly line that includes processing and handling of previously prepared products, packages, materials, merchandise, and packages serving external customers.”

The warehouse will be about 262,000 square feet, and an office will be roughly 16,700 square feet.

Residents are upset that the city would approve a warehouse in the business park, especially when the project would produce more transport truck traffic on already busy roads like Merivale Road and Prince of Wales Drive.

Many people also spoke out when a related zoning application hit planning committee’s agenda in May. The Ontario Land Tribunal has received an appeal to the zoning amendment approved by council.

Daintry Topshee, who lives in the Glens community, said the mystery warehouse project was a “travesty” and she expressed disappointment that the community didn’t know who would be operating the warehouse.

Inna Ellis, whose backyard faces Prince of Wales Drive, said she was already impacted by heavy truck traffic.

“We feel like our health, our wellbeing, our peace does not matter to whoever the developer is here,” Ellis said.

Meehan didn’t get a vote because she’s not a member of the planning committee.

“It has a potential to be disastrous,” Meehan said of the project in her final plea to committee members.

Knoxdale-Merivale Coun. Keith Egli, who represents residents in the neighbouring ward, said he opposed the site plan, but he’s also not a member of the planning committee and couldn’t vote.

Tim Marc, city hall’s top planning lawyer, told the committee it would be an “awkward situation” to reject the site plan since it complied with the zoning rules for the property.

The committee voted 7-3 in favour of the site plan. The decision doesn’t need council’s ratification.

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Old Posted Sep 24, 2021, 12:59 PM
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Planning committee OK's warehouse project despite another blast from opponents

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Publishing date: Sep 23, 2021 • 12 hours ago • 2 minute read




Residents on Thursday had an opportunity to blast a mystery e-commerce warehouse and truck depot eyed for the South Merivale Business Park, only to have City of Ottawa’s planning committee deliver an approval for the site plan.

Medusa Inc./Broccolini was identified as the site plan applicant for 99 Bill Leathem Dr., 2 Leikin Dr. and 20 Leikin Dr. The builder needed the city’s approval of a site plan for how the property is going to function, including details on design, landscaping and traffic access.

Communities around the business park have grown uneasy about the interest in the area shown by warehouse developers.

City planning staff have the authority to approve a site plan unless the ward councillor makes staff win the approval of planning committee. In this case, Gloucester-South Nepean Coun. Carol Anne Meehan forced staff to ask for the committee to make a decision on the warehouse site plan.

The city describes the future facility as having a “light industrial use and associated shipping, receiving, loading, and distribution elements.”

However, the project team hasn’t disclosed which company will be using the warehouse.

All the city knows, according to a planning report, is that the facility will have “a type of assembly line that includes processing and handling of previously prepared products, packages, materials, merchandise, and packages serving external customers.”

The warehouse will be about 262,000 square feet, and an office will be roughly 16,700 square feet.

Residents are upset that the city would approve a warehouse in the business park, especially when the project would produce more transport truck traffic on already busy roads like Merivale Road and Prince of Wales Drive.

Many people also spoke out when a related zoning application hit planning committee’s agenda in May. The Ontario Land Tribunal has received an appeal to the zoning amendment approved by council.

Daintry Topshee, who lives in the Glens community, said the mystery warehouse project was a “travesty” and she expressed disappointment that the community didn’t know who would be operating the warehouse.

Inna Ellis, whose backyard faces Prince of Wales Drive, said she was already impacted by heavy truck traffic.

“We feel like our health, our wellbeing, our peace does not matter to whoever the developer is here,” Ellis said.

Meehan didn’t get a vote because she’s not a member of the planning committee.

“It has a potential to be disastrous,” Meehan said of the project in her final plea to committee members.

Knoxdale-Merivale Coun. Keith Egli, who represents residents in the neighbouring ward, said he opposed the site plan, but he’s also not a member of the planning committee and couldn’t vote.

Tim Marc, city hall’s top planning lawyer, told the committee it would be an “awkward situation” to reject the site plan since it complied with the zoning rules for the property.

The committee voted 7-3 in favour of the site plan. The decision doesn’t need council’s ratification.

jwilling@postmedia.com
twitter.com/JonathanWilling

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local...from-opponents
How could this be anything but an Amazon. The descriptions of what the company will do, how they do it, what their space requirements are, what goes on inside..it can only be an Amazon warehouse/distribution centre.

Some rather tetchy back and forth between the clients lawyers and one of the Committee members on the feed.

This is going to OLT for the zoning I believe. Who appealed it? Neighbours?
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Old Posted Sep 24, 2021, 3:39 PM
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How could this be anything but an Amazon. The descriptions of what the company will do, how they do it, what their space requirements are, what goes on inside..it can only be an Amazon warehouse/distribution centre.

Some rather tetchy back and forth between the clients lawyers and one of the Committee members on the feed.

This is going to OLT for the zoning I believe. Who appealed it? Neighbours?
I'll be surprised if it is and as far as I can tell the zoning appeal wont do anything to do this project as it falls under the old zoning.

I wonder what the community would have thought of all the car traffic from the predicted office space that was part of the original plan for the area.

Considering it has been zoned light industrial for a long time.
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Maybe all the oponents need to stop buying crap online and then there would be no further demand for these facilities.
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Old Posted Sep 24, 2021, 8:40 PM
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Maybe all the oponents need to stop buying crap online and then there would be no further demand for these facilities.
Hey, I don't create traffic.it's everyone else who does...but not me. as I merrily drive to work solo in my car.
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Old Posted Mar 8, 2022, 12:24 AM
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20 Leikin Drive, 99 Bill Leathem Drive & 11 Beckstead Road was purchased by Medusa General Partner Inc. (Broccolini) from Zena-Kinder Holdings Ltd. (Leikin Group) for $34,585,200 or $408,229 per acre. It is zoned Light Industrial.

http://www.juteaujohnsoncomba.com/ne...mber-Sales.pdf
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Old Posted Mar 8, 2022, 2:45 AM
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20 Leikin Drive, 99 Bill Leathem Drive & 11 Beckstead Road was purchased by Medusa General Partner Inc. (Broccolini) from Zena-Kinder Holdings Ltd. (Leikin Group) for $34,585,200 or $408,229 per acre. It is zoned Light Industrial.

http://www.juteaujohnsoncomba.com/ne...mber-Sales.pdf
So if I understand correctly.. Zena-Kinder Holdings purchased the land from the City of Ottawa for $1 and have now sold it for 34.5 million dollars.

yabba dabba do!
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Old Posted Mar 8, 2022, 1:43 PM
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So if I understand correctly.. Zena-Kinder Holdings purchased the land from the City of Ottawa for $1 and have now sold it for 34.5 million dollars.

yabba dabba do!
Yup. From the brilliant minds at the City of Ottawa. That was just a year ago.

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Whatever it may be, it's known that it will take up the entire plot of land, and that the City will not have to construct the proposed roads and servicing that was initially agreed to by the former city of Nepean in 1996.

The lands were sold to Zena-Kinder Holdings for $1 and the City was released from its financial liability of approx. 7-10 million dollars for having to potentially construct the roads and servicing.

FINANCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE report - South Merivale Business Park
I hope that, at the very least, they added an iron clad clause that says this "deal" must be held by any current or future owner, regardless of when the land is redeveloped. Considering they never anticipated Zena-Kinder Holdings would turn around and sell the land for Market value, I doubt it.
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I have so enjoyed reading the many comments in news articles on this story. The Barrhaven crowd have very short memories considering they paved over everything for their suburban wasteland which laid traffic carnage on every route to get there. Same crowd protests airplane traffic - again, the airport was there first. Karma - love it - build it!
To add on this, it won't even really hinder them, because the traffic would generally be Prince of Wales to 417, which most of the traffic jams aren't there. Plus trucks can take a back route from Barnsdale and Borriskane via Prince of Wales.
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