Select US Airports by Nonstop Routes 5,000+ Air Miles

[dimondpark]

As I was saying in another thread, researching this made me realize just how isolated California is....so far from literally every major foreign city.

LAX, SFO and JFK have the most 5,000+ mile nonstop flights, at least as far as I have found by looking at Wiki and then looking up air mile distances on Google. If you find more accurate info, please share.

Tons of observations made during this research. Here are some...
Honolulu-Boston is the longest domestic flight in the US, I think.
Honolulu has the only nonstop US flight to Malaysia, Other airports have the sole US flight places too but I found this interesting.
Ethiopian Airlines uses Lome, Togo as a place to refuel flights to Addis Ababa, so those flights dont count.
Singapore Airlines uses Manchester to refuel flights to/from Houston so that doesnt count, although I think they are planning a nonstop, which would be one of the longest.
Los Angeles has multiple carriers serving places you might not think--3 carriers serve LAX to Chengdu. Who knew?

I'll add more later...

Select US Airports by Nonstop Routes 5,000+ Air Miles
51 Los Angeles(LAX)
36 San Francisco(SFO)
31 New York(JFK)
17 Chicago(ORD)
14 Dallas-Fort Worth(DFW)
13 Houston(IAH)
12 Washington(IAD)
11 Newark(EWR)
9 Atlanta(ATL)
9 Boston(BOS)
9 Seattle(SEA)
7 Miami(MIA)
6 Detroit(DTW)
6 Honolulu(HNL)
6 Las Vegas(LAS)
4 San Diego(SAN)
3 Denver(DEN)
2 Minneapolis-St Paul(MSP)
2 Phoenix(PHX)
2 Salt Lake City(SLC)
1 Charlotte(CLT)
1 Philadelphia(PHL)

Atlanta(ATL): 9
8,439 miles------Johannesburg(Delta Air Lines)
7,659 miles------Shanghai(Delta Air Lines)
7,460 miles------Doha(Qatar Airways)
7,153 miles------Seoul(Delta Air Lines, Korean Air)
6,882 miles------Tokyo(Delta Air Lines)
5,843 miles------Lagos(Delta Air Lines)
5,759 miles------Istanbul(Turkish Airways)
5,700 miles------Athens(Delta Air Lines)
5,036 miles------Rome(Delta Air Lines)

Boston(BOS): 9
7,970 miles------Hong Kong(Cathay Pacific)
7,308 miles------Shanghai(Hainan Airlines)
6,829 miles------Seoul(Korean Air)
6,737 miles------Beijing(Hainan Airlines)
6,702 miles------Tokyo(Japan Airlines)
6,651 miles------Dubai(Emirates)
6,518 miles------Doha(Qatar Airways)
5,491 miles------Tel Aviv(El Al)
5,081 miles------Honolulu(Hawaiian Airlines)

Charlotte(CLT): 1
5,095 miles------Madrid(American Airlines)

Chicago(ORD): 17
8,141 miles-----Auckland(Air New Zealand)
7,794 miles-----Hong Kong(Cathay Pacific, United Airlines)
7,757 miles-----Addis Ababa(Ethopian Airlines)
7,484 miles-----Delhi(AIr India)
7,457 miles-----Taipei(EVA Air)
7,257 miles-----Abu Dhabi(Etihad Airways)
7,382 miles-----Chengdu(Hainan Airlines)
7,246 miles-----Dubai(Emirates)
7,133 miles-----Doha(Qatar Airways)
7,057 miles-----Shanghai(China Eastern Airlines, United Airlines)
6,579 miles-----Beijing(Hainan Airlines, United Airlines)
6,552 miles-----Seoul(Korean Air)
6,274 miles-----Tokyo(ANA, Japan Airlines, United Airlines)
6,236 miles-----Amman(Royal Jordanian)
6,180 miles-----Tel Aviv(United Airlines)
5,474 miles-----Istanbul(Turkish Airlines)
5,225 miles-----Sao Paulo(United Airlines)

Dallas-Fort Worth(DFW): 14
8,578 miles------Sydney(Qantas)
8,119 miles------Hong Kong(American Airlines)
8,040 miles------Dubai(Emirates)
7,921 miles------Doha(Qatar Airways)
7,440 miles------Auckland(American Airlines)
7,351 miles------Shanghai(American Airlines)
6,971 miles------Beijing(American Airlines)
6,970 miles------Tel Aviv(American Airlines)
6,829 miles------Seoul(American Airlines, Korean Airlines)
6,427 miles------Tokyo(American Airlines, Japan Airlines)
5,614 miles------Rome(American Airlines)
5,286 miles------Buenos Aires(American Airlines)
5,132 miles------Frankfurt(American Airlines)
5,124 miles------Sao Paulo(American Airlines)

Denver(DEN): 3
5,788 miles------Tokyo(United Airlines)
5,225 miles------Munich(Lufthansa, United Airlines)
5,039 miles------Frankfurt(Lufthansa, United Airlines)

Detroit(DTW): 6
7,137 miles------Shanghai(Delta Air Lines)
6,631 miles------Beijing(Delta Air Lines)
6,525 miles------Nagoya(Delta Air Lines)
6,604 miles------Seoul(Delta Air Lines)
6,492 miles------Amman(Royal Jordanian)
6,397 miles------Tokyo(Delta Air Lines)

Honolulu(HNL): 6
6,722 miles------Kuala Lumpur(AirAsiaX)
5,504 miles------Melbourne(Jetstar Airways)
5,301 miles------Manila(Philippine Airlines)
5,069 miles------Taipei(China Airlines)
5,095 miles------Boston(Hawaiian Airlines)
5,066 miles------Sydney(Hawaiian Airlines, Jetstar Airways, Qantas)

Houston(IAH): 13
8,596 miles------Sydney(United Airlines)
8,168 miles------Dubai(Emirates)
8,048 miles------Doha(Qatar
7,939 miles------Taipei(EVA AIrways)
7,415 miles------Auckland(Air New Zealand)
7,195 miles------Beijing(Air China)
6,407 miles------Tokyo(ANA)
6,371 miles------Istanbul(Turkish Airlines)
5,417 miles------Munich(United Airlines)
5,232 miles------Frankfurt(Lufthansa)
5,062 miles------Buenos Aires(United Airlines)
5,016 miles------Rio de Janeiro(United Airlines)
5,012 miles------Amsterdam(KLM, United Airlines)

Las Vegas(LAS): 6
7,362 miles------Tel Aviv(El Al)
6,022 miles------Seoul(Korean Air)
5,713 miles------Zurich(Edelweiss Air)
5,583 miles------Frankfurt(Condor, Eurowings Discover)
5,355 miles------Amsterdam(KLM)
5,253 miles------London(British Airways, Virgin Atlantic)

Los Angeles(LAX): 51
8,770 miles------Singapore(Singapore Airlines)
8,339 miles------Dubai(Emirates)
8,332 miles------Jeddah(Saudia)
8,267 miles------Riyadh(Saudia)
8,306 miles------Doha(Qatar Airways)
8,169 miles------Ho Chi Minh City(Bamboo Airlines)
7,912 miles------Melbourne(Qantas, United Airlines)
7,574 miles------Tel Aviv(El Al)
7,488 miles------Sydney(Qantas, United Airlines)
7,305 miles------Manila(Philippine Airlines)
7,262 miles------Shenzhen(Air China)
7,260 miles------Hong Kong(Cathay Pacific)
7,231 miles------Guangzhou(China Southern Airlines)
7,207 miles------Chengdu(China Eastern Airlines, Hainan Airlines, Sichuan Airlines)
7,161 miles------Brisbane(Qantas)
7,159 miles------Chongqing(Hainan Airlines)
6,989 miles------Changsha(Hainan Airlines)
6,964 miles------Xiamen(XiamenAir)
6,878 miles------Christchurch(American Airlines)
6,852 miles------Istanbul(Turkish Airlines)
6,850 miles------Xi'an(Hainan Airlines)
6,799 miles------Taipei(China Airlines, EVA Air)
6,587 miles------Hangzhou(Sichuan Airlines)
6,579 miles------Nanjing(China Eastern Airlines)
6,504 miles------Auckland(Air New Zealand, Air Tahiti Nui, American Airlines)
6,485 miles------Shanghai(China Eastern AIrlines, Delta Air Lines)
6,390 miles------Jinan(Sichuan Airlines)
6,354 miles------Rome(Alitalia)
6,297 miles------Qingdao(XiamenAir)
6,237 miles------Beijing(Air China)
6,137 miles------Vienna(Austrian Airlines)
6,016 miles------Warsaw(LOT Polish Airlines)
6,078 miles------Moscow(Aeroflot)
5,995 miles------Seoul(Asiana Airlines, Korean Air)
5,989 miles------Munich(Lufthansa)
5,940 miles------Zurich(Swiss International Air Lines)
5,918 miles------Shenyang(China Southern Airlines)
5,839 miles------Madrid(Iberia)
5,806 miles------Frankfurt(Lufthansa)
5,669 miles------Paris(Air France, Air Tahiti Nui, Delta Air Lines)
5,633 miles------Copenhagen(Scandinavian Airlines)
5,613 miles------Helsinki(Finnair)
5,578 ,miles------Amsterdam(KLM)
5,569 miles------Santiago(LATAM Chile)
5,519 miles------Nadi(Fiji Airways)
5,456 miles------London(American Airlines, British Airways, Delta Air Lines, United Airlines, Virgin Atlantic)
5,471 miles------Osaka(Japan Airlines)
5,451 miles------Tokyo(ANA, Delta Air Lines, Japan Airlines, Singapore Airlines, United Airlines)
5,345 miles------Oslo(Scandinavian Airlines)
5,286 miles------Manchester(Virgin Atlantic)
5,181 miles------Dublin(Aer Lingus)

Miami(MIA): 7
7,845 miles------Dubai(Emirates)
7,680 miles------Doha(Qatar Airways)
6,804 miles------Tel Aviv(American Airlines, El Al
5,967 miles------Istanbul(Turkish Airlines)
5,767 miles------Moscow(Aeroflot)
5,286 miles------Warsaw(LOT Polish Airlines)
5,183 miles------Rome(Alitalia)

Minneapolis-St Paul(MSP): 2
6,248 miles------Seoul(Delta Air Lines)
5,950 miles------Tokyo(Delta Airlines)

New York(JFK): 31
9,534 miles------Singapore(Singapore Airlines)
8,520 miles------Manila(Philippine Airlines)
8,072 miles------Hong Kong(Cathay Pacific)
7,969 miles------Johannesburg(South African Airways)
7,808 miles------Taipei(China Airlines, EVA Air)
7,770 miles------Fuzhou(XiamenAir)
7,590 miles------Chongqing(Hainan Airlines)
7,512 miles------Chengdu(Hainan Airlines)
7,490 miles------Wuhan(China Southern Airlines)
7,392 miles------Shanghai(China Eastern Airlines)
7,357 miles------Nairobi(Kenya Airways)
7,318 miles------Delhi(Air India, American Airlines)
6,906 miles------Seoul(Asiana Airlines, Korean Air)
6,867 miles------Abu Dhabi(Etihad Airways)
6,849 miles------Dubai(Emirates)
6,837 miles------Beijing(Air China)
6,745 miles------Tokyo(ANA, Japan Airlines)
6,704 miles------Doha(Qatar Airways)
6,524 miles------Riyadh(Saudia)
6,365 miles------Jeddah(Saudia)
6,352 miles------Kuwait City(Kuwait Air)
6,338 miles------Tashkent(Uzbekistan Airways)
5,831 miles------Baku(Azerbaijan Airlines)
5,738 miles------Amman(Royal Jordanian)
5,677 miles------Tel Aviv(American Airlines, Delta Air Lines)
5,617 miles------Cairo(Egyptair)
5,282 miles------Buenos Aires(Aerolineas Argentinas, American Airlines)
5,160 miles------Lome(Ethiopian Airlines)
5,111 miles------Accra(Delta Air Lines)
5,097 miles------Santiago(American Airlines, LATAM Chile)
5,000 miles------Instanbul(Turkish Airlines)

Newark(EWR): 11
8,065 miles------Hong Kong(United Airlines)
7,990 miles------Johannesburg(United Airlines)
7,807 miles------Mumbai(Air India, United Airlines)
7,384 miles------Shanghai(United Airlines)
7,324 miles------Delhi(Air India, United Airlines)
6,861 miles------Dubai(Emirates)
6,831 miles------Beijing(Air China, United Airlines)
6,732 miles------Tokyo(United Airlines)
5,692 miles------Tel Aviv(El Al, United Airlines)
5,181 ,miles-----Lome(Ethiopian Airlines)
5,014 miles------Istanbul(Turkish Airlines)

Philadelphia(PHL):
6,797 miles------Doha(Qatar Airways)

Phoenix(PHX): 2
5,637 miles------Frankfurt(Condor)
5,271 miles------London(American Airlines, British Airways)

Salt Lake City(SLC): 2
5,217 miles------Frankfurt(Eurowings Discover)
5,080 miles------Paris(Delta Airlines)

San Diego(SAN): 4
5,969 miles------Zurich(Edelweiss Air)
5,840 miles------Frankfurt(Lufthansa)
5,557 miles------Tokyo(Japan Airlines)
5,485 miles------London(British Airways)

San Francisco(SFO): 36
8,694 miles------Bangalore(Air India, United Airlines)
8,441 miles------Singapore(Cathay Pacific, Singapore Airlines, United Airlines)
8,103 miles------Dubai(Emirates)
8,062 miles------Doha(Qatar Airways)
7,855 miles------Melbourne(Qantas, United Airlines)
7,825 miles------Ho Chi Minh City(Bamboo Airways)
7,707 miles------Delhi(Air India, United Airlines)
7,422 miles------Tel Aviv(El Al, United Airlines)
7,417 miles------Sydney(Qantas, United Airlines)
6,969 miles------Manila(Philippine Airlines)
6,927 miles------Hong Kong(Cathay Pacific, Singapore Airlines, United Airlines)
6,897 miles------Guangzhou(Southern China Airlines)
6,870 miles------Chengdu(United Airlines)
6,705 miles------Istanbul(Turkish Airlines)
6,532 miles------Auckland(Air New Zealand, United Airlines)
6,469 miles------Taipei(China Airlines, EVA Airways, United Airlines)
6,264 miles------Rome(Alitalia)
6,142 miles------Shanghai(Eastern China Airlines, United Airlines)
5,970 miles------Barcelona(Level)
5,913 miles------Beijing(Air China, United Airlines)
5,879 miles------Munich(Lufthansa, United Airlines)
5,867 miles------Warsaw(LOT Polish Airlines)
5,840 miles------Zurich(Swiss International Air Lines, United Airlines)
5,790 miles------Madrid(Iberia)
5,699 miles------Frankfurt(Lufthansa, United Airlines)
5,659 miles------Seoul(Asiana Airlines, Korean Air, United Airlines)
5,583 miles------Paris(Air France, French Bee, United Airlines)
5,581 miles------Lisbon(TAP Portugal)
5,487 miles------Copenhagen(Scandinavian Airlines)
5,473 miles------Amsterdam(KLM, United Airlines)
5,458 miles------Nadi(Fiji Airways)
5,435 miles------Helsinki(Finnair)
5,413 miles------Osaka(United Airlines)
5,368 miles------London(British Airways, United Airlines, Virgin Atlantic)
5,124 miles------Tokyo(ANA, Japan Airlines, United Airlines)
5,086 miles------Dublin(Aer Lingus, United Airlines)

Seattle(SEA): 9
8,078 miles------Bangalore(American Airlines)
8,071 miles------Singapore(Singapore Airlines)
7,425 miles------Dubai(Emirates)
7,411 miles------Doha(Qatar Airways)
6,074 miles------Taipei(EVA Air)
5,709 miles------Shanghai(Delta Air Lines, Hainan Airlines)
5,407 miles------Beijing(Delta Air Lines, Hainan Airlines)
5,217 miles------Seoul(Asiana Airlines, Delta Air Lines, Korean Air)
5,108 miles------Frankfurt(Condor)

Washington(IAD): 12
7,088 miles------Abu Dhabi(Etihad)
7,069 miles------Dubai(Emirates)
6,959 miles------Seoul(Korean Air)
6,927 miles------Doha(Qatar Airways)
6,921 miles------Beijing(Air China, United Airlines)
6,753 miles------Tokyo(ANA, United Airlines)
6,737 miles------Riyadh(Saudia)
6,581 miles------Jeddah(Saudia)
5,951 miles------Tel Aviv(United Airlines)
5,832 miles------Cairo(Egyptair)
5,296 miles------Accra(South African Airways, United Airlines)
5,225 miles------Istanbul(Turkish Airlines

[SIGSEGV]

Originally Posted by dimondpark

Washington(IAD): 13
5,288 miles------Warsaw(LOT Polish Airlines)

This didn't pass the smell test for me since surely Chicago to Warsaw is slightly farther than IAD to Warsaw. And indeed it is, but both are under 5000 miles (not to mention, according to Flight Connections, there is currently no flight between IAD and WAW).

Also missing from Chicago, according to Flight Connections (did not verify this independently!):

Osaka (ANA, but only one flight a week and seasonal), 6489 miles
Hyderabad (Air India, also just one flight a week, 8249 miles).
Athens (AA, 5446 miles)


Don't currently see flights to Chengdu (but maybe they exist sometimes!).

[dimondpark]

Originally Posted by SIGSEGV

This didn't pass the smell test for me since surely Chicago to Warsaw is slightly farther than IAD to Warsaw. And indeed it is, but both are under 5000 miles (not to mention, according to Flight Connections, there is currently no flight between IAD and WAW).

Also missing from Chicago, according to Flight Connections (did not verify this independently!):

Osaka (ANA, but only one flight a week and seasonal), 6489 miles
Hyderabad (Air India, also just one flight a week, 8249 miles).
Athens (AA, 5446 miles)


Don't currently see flights to Chengdu (but maybe they exist sometimes!).

Thanks for the insights.

I used the 'Airlines and Destinations' section from the Wiki page of each airport.

I remember Chicago had a Hyderabad flight but didnt see it here:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/O%27...tional_Airport

With respect to Warsaw, I goofed. That has to be mileage to another city, I will look. Thanks for catching it!

[dimondpark]

Notice how US carriers dont fly to as many ultra long haul destinations as foreign carriers fly into US cities.

Longest Routes by US-based airlines'(7,000+miles)

Miles----Carrier---------------Route
8,694--United Airlines--------San Francisco to Bangalore
8,596--United Airlines--------Houston to Sydney
8,441--United Airlines--------San Francisco to Singapore
8,439--Delta Airlines---------Atlanta to Johannesburg
8,119--American Airlines-----Dallas to Hong Kong
8,078--American Airlines-----Seattle to Bangalore
8,056--United Airlines--------Newark to Hong Kong
7,990--United Airlines--------Newark to Johannesburg
7,912--United Airlines--------Los Angeles to Melbourne
7,855--United Airlines--------San Francisco to Melbourne
7,807--United Airlines--------Newark to Mumbai
7,794--United Airlines--------Chicago to Hong Kong
7,707--United Airlines--------San Francisco to Delhi
7,659--Delta Airlines----------Atlanta to Shanghai
7,488--United Airlines--------Los Angeles to Sydney
7,440--American Airlines-----Dallas to Auckland
7,422--United Airlines--------San Francisco to Tel Aviv
7,417--United Airlines--------San Francisco to Sydney
7,384--United Airlines--------Newark to Shanghai
7,351--American Airlines-----Dallas to Shanghai
7,324--United Airlines--------Newark to Delhi
7,318--American Airlines-----New York to Delhi
7,153--Delta Airlines----------Atlanta to Seoul
7,137--Delta Air Lines--------Detroit to Shanghai
7,057--United Airlines--------Chicago to Shanghai

[JManc]

Originally Posted by dimondpark

As I was saying in another thread, researching this made me realize just how isolated California is....so far from literally every major foreign city.

Not really. LAX and SFO along with New York and Atlanta are at the edge of the continent which make them ideal for international connections. Likewise for Houston and Miami for travel to Latin America.

[bigstick]

You forgot
ATL to Buenos Aires-5008

[iheartthed]

Originally Posted by JManc

Not really. LAX and SFO along with New York and Atlanta are at the edge of the continent which make them ideal for international connections. Likewise for Houston and Miami for travel to Latin America.

California actually doesn't have that much of a location advantage over the eastern U.S. for flying to Asia. The distance from NYC Hong Kong is only 800 miles farther than the distance from L.A. to Hong Kong.

[craigs]

Originally Posted by iheartthed

California actually doesn't have that much of a location advantage over the eastern U.S. for flying to Asia. The distance from NYC Hong Kong is only 800 miles farther than the distance from L.A. to Hong Kong.

Disagreed. The numbers show that California has significantly shorter flights to Asia than do East Coast cities--to take your example of New York to Hong Kong versus Los Angeles to Hong Kong, I absolutely consider a flight that is 811 miles shorter to be significant and advantageous.

But then there's California's other major international hub: San Francisco is 1,155 miles closer to Hong Kong. Similarly, San Francisco is 1,087 miles closer to Singapore and 1,601 miles closer to Tokyo than is New York.

[Camelback]

Originally Posted by iheartthed

California actually doesn't have that much of a location advantage over the eastern U.S. for flying to Asia. The distance from NYC Hong Kong is only 800 miles farther than the distance from L.A. to Hong Kong.

Using the great circle, yeah, it's crazy how cities that you think aren't that close, really are.

Here's another, basically a wash.
NYC to Buenos Aires 5,200 miles
LA to Buenos Aires 6,000 miles

LA to Tokyo is about the same distance as LA to Berlin.

[Kngkyle]

Originally Posted by craigs

Disagreed. The numbers show that California has significantly shorter flights to Asia than do East Coast cities--to take your example of New York to Hong Kong versus Los Angeles to Hong Kong, I absolutely consider a flight that is 811 miles shorter to be significant and advantageous.

But then there's California's other major international hub: San Francisco is 1,155 miles closer to Hong Kong. Similarly, San Francisco is 1,087 miles closer to Singapore and 1,601 miles closer to Tokyo than is New York.

The airline schedules don't really support you here. Planes also do not necessarily fly the shortest distance between two points. Trans-ocean flights are routed through designated navigational routes, and these routes can change depending on weather and wind conditions at altitude. It's actually fairly interesting, I'll link a video explaining the North Atlantic Tracks below.

JFK-HKG has a block time of 16:00 hrs
ORD-HKG has a block time of 15:55 hrs
LAX-HKG has a block time of 15:55 hrs
SFO-HKG has a block time of 15:05 hrs

To say California has a significant advantage is a bit of a stretch. Plus when you're actually on one of these flights, whether its 16 hours or 15 hours it's a long fucking time either way.

Source: https://www.google.com/travel/flight...__8BQAFIAZgBAg


• Video Link

[Kngkyle]

For comparison, the airline block times for Atlantic flights are significantly different.

JFK-FRA comes in around 7:30
ORD-FRA around 8:20
SFO-FRA around 10:50
LAX-FRA around 10:50 as well

I say around because there's multiple flights with different block times. Different types of planes also fly at different speeds. 747s are the fastest and A330s are among the slowest widebody aircraft. The differences aren't huge but 25mph faster adds up over a 15 hour flight.

[JManc]

Originally Posted by iheartthed

California actually doesn't have that much of a location advantage over the eastern U.S. for flying to Asia. The distance from NYC Hong Kong is only 800 miles farther than the distance from L.A. to Hong Kong.

As I mentioned, New York is also at the edge of the continent which is why most airlines connect via JFK, EWR (ugh) and LGA for flights to Europe, the Middle East and Africa.

[proghousehead]

East Coast gets you to Europe, Africa, the Middle East, and South Asia faster than the West Coast. East Coast is a longer journey than the West Coast to the Asia Pacific/Australia.

Every thing Else is a wash.

In terms of access to population, East Coast wins. You Can fly JFK to London in 6 hours (done it many times with good tail wind); and also fly JFK to LAX in 6 hours.

In terms of access, east coast is highly preferable. There’s no debate on this.

[MolsonExport]

Originally Posted by Kngkyle

The airline schedules don't really support you here. Planes also do not necessarily fly the shortest distance between two points. Trans-ocean flights are routed through designated navigational routes, and these routes can change depending on weather and wind conditions at altitude. It's actually fairly interesting, I'll link a video explaining the North Atlantic Tracks below.

JFK-HKG has a block time of 16:00 hrs
ORD-HKG has a block time of 15:55 hrs
LAX-HKG has a block time of 15:55 hrs
SFO-HKG has a block time of 15:05 hrs

To say California has a significant advantage is a bit of a stretch. Plus when you're actually on one of these flights, whether its 16 hours or 15 hours it's a long fucking time either way.

Source: https://www.google.com/travel/flight...__8BQAFIAZgBAg


• Video Link

really interesting and informative video

[202_Cyclist]

Originally Posted by JManc

As I mentioned, New York is also at the edge of the continent which is why most airlines connect via JFK, EWR (ugh) and LGA for flights to Europe, the Middle East and Africa.

The only international flights from LaGuardia are to Canada and the Caribbean.

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by JManc

As I mentioned, New York is also at the edge of the continent which is why most airlines connect via JFK, EWR (ugh) and LGA for flights to Europe.

as a counter example, ORD is nowhere near the edge of the continent, but still has non-stop flights to 22 different cities in europe.

that certainly is fewer european destinations than the two big NYC airports, but there is still a lot of europe-bound air traffic from the US that is not routed through JFK/EWR.

[202_Cyclist]

One fun fact-- as of a few years ago, Portland was the smallest US airport with nonstop flights to both Europe and Asia.

[iheartthed]

Originally Posted by 202_Cyclist

The only international flights from LaGuardia are to Canada and the Caribbean.

And apparently only flights from the Bahamas in the Caribbean. LaGuardia doesn't have U.S. Customs facilities, so all international flights have to be from origins with U.S. Customs preclearance. Apparently, only the Bahamas and Canada have preclearance facilities within the 1,500 mile range of LGA.

[JManc]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

as a counter example, ORD is nowhere near the edge of the continent, but still has non-stop flights to 22 different cities in europe.

that certainly is fewer european destinations than the two big NYC airports, but there is still a lot of europe-bound air traffic from the US that is not routed through JFK/EWR.

True but ORD is at the northern edge of the lower 48. I think DTW and MSP to a lesser extent still serve as major hubs for Delta. If I couldn't fly direct from IAH, I would connect through ORD all day before I would with EWR. I would even swim.

[202_Cyclist]

Originally Posted by iheartthed

And apparently only flights from the Bahamas in the Caribbean. LaGuardia doesn't have U.S. Customs facilities, so all international flights have to be from origins with U.S. Customs preclearance. Apparently, only the Bahamas and Canada have preclearance facilities within the 1,500 mile range of LGA.

No, Montreal, Toronto and Halifax all had non-stop flight from LaGuardia. Of course, these have been halted with the closure of the border with Canada.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaGuardia_Airport