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[pspeid]

Originally Posted by LilZebra

Foot traffic? What are you talking about? More likely those hotel guests will be ordering from Skip and watching pornos on the television.

I don't believe I will be a guest at Sutton Place.

[Andy6]

Originally Posted by pspeid

Maybe also with an eye to foot traffic coming over from Sutton Place when that is done?

One of the main reasons for this development was the skywalk from the convention centre to BellMTS Place. The entire complex was designed to make that connection as short as possible. They seem to be trying to create a cluster there where the convention centre and arena can attract more events with more hotel rooms within a couple minutes’ indoor walk of each.

[BuildUpWpg]

Originally Posted by esquire

They really did. That upper level is totally out of sight, out of mind for me. I haven't set foot in the food hall or LC once.

You guys are killing me...it's no stretch to step out of cityplace into another skywalk to hit the food hall or the Liquor Mart. It's no different than going to the Delta or even the convention centre from cityplace. And based on how popular the food hall is turning out to be, most people aren't taking issue. As for security, there was a security guard today where the hall splits to go either to the food hall or the LM and another at the LM itself. There's also often a security guard on the main level entrance to go up to the food hall. the only issue is that there is a lack of skywalk signage at the start of the new skywalk in cityplace. My guess it that's city's responsibility to hang a Downtown W walkway sign at that spot.

As for the LofW taproom on the main level of TNS1, I'm sure that once Sutton Place is up and running (and eventually Wawanesa), hotel guests and tenants will have no issue with crossing the street to get to the taproom. Most people like to explore the area that they are staying in (if they feel it's safe of course)...not stay holed up in their hotel room. They gotta eat and gotta drink somewhere! And if they want to bring drinks back to their room, the LM is right there too.

[esquire]

^ I'm sure I will be a frequent visitor once that Sutton Place connection to RBCCC is complete.

[BigG]

Sutton site cranes and 300 Main in the distance.

[Gravity Wins]

That's a really nice perspective to show some density in Winnipeg. Will look even better once 360 Main finally hits its growth spurt!

[headhorse]

TNS called the cops on people playing road hockey in the square today

[WinCitySparky]

Good, now please stick to the topic of construction

[buzzg]

Originally Posted by WinCitySparky

Good, now please stick to the topic of construction

I'd say it's related considering the city gave TN extra tax money to build the plaza. Should be a public space.

[armorand93]

Originally Posted by headhorse

TNS called the cops on people playing road hockey in the square today

Oh yes, because I'm sure they were all smoking meth, blasting Slayer & stabbing people over toonies...

Chipman must *really* not like people to play hockey, unless they're doing it in his precious little MTS Centre across the street, paying thousands an hour for bookings... to call WPS on a bunch of families playing hockey in his square, is absurd.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by buzzg

I'd say it's related considering the city gave TN extra tax money to build the plaza. Should be a public space.

The group doing it was making a point about the need for public spaces... what's funny/sad is that they 100% knew that security would crack down on their road hockey game, thereby helping them make their point.

[Labroco]

Originally Posted by esquire

The group doing it was making a point about the need for public spaces... what's funny/sad is that they 100% knew that security would crack down on their road hockey game, thereby helping them make their point.

The myth that 20 million dollars of funding was needed to creat a “public square” has been shattered. If a small grass roots organization can not play ball hockey for an hour to make a point, I cannot wait to see what will happen when a circle dance appears next Wednesday .

The True North Security will undoubtably be receiving some community sensitivity training in the near future.

[OTA in Winnipeg]

^Related article
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manit...ures-1.5481694

They played for around a half hour, until True North officials cut the game short, citing concerns about damage to the plaza floor.

[Andy6]

Originally Posted by Labroco

The myth that 20 million dollars of funding was needed to creat a “public square” has been shattered. If a small grass roots organization can not play ball hockey for an hour to make a point, I cannot wait to see what will happen when a circle dance appears next Wednesday .

The True North Security will undoubtably be receiving some community sensitivity training in the near future.

Can people normally take over a public square to play ball hockey whenever they want? There would be liability and insurance issues, just for starters.

[bomberjet]

"True North officials" being the rent a cop security people.

[armorand93]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

"True North officials" being the rent a cop security people.

Meanwhile, while they're calling WPS on little Timmy & their family playing hockey, theres probably someone wandering around the complex high off meth, trying to find a way to get themselves freebies, or trying to scare people out of the building, at the same time these guards are cleaning out a public square of families with children... which was a funding condition for the City of Winnipeg, to begin with.

These guards are idiots lol. Whose the security company for TNS? If its the same one that lets people enter the U of W, panhandling in the halls & stabbing students over laptops (Securitas?), then that might actually explain TNS security. 110%.

Clear house and hire somebody new...?

[Labroco]

Originally Posted by Andy6

Can people normally take over a public square to play ball hockey whenever they want? There would be liability and insurance issues, just for starters.

All TN had to do was take out a carafe of coffee and hot chocolate along with Tim Bits. The story and exposure would have been very different. Very poorly played in my opinion. If I was TN I might invite the crowd back and try this again ...

[Labroco]

Originally Posted by Andy6

Can people normally take over a public square to play ball hockey whenever they want? There would be liability and insurance issues, just for starters.

Please...

That’s almost like saying no skating in old market square...

Public spaces on private property all have liability clauses...

You must have been a city inspector in an earlier life!

No one is “taking over the square”!

[buzzg]

Originally Posted by Andy6

Can people normally take over a public square to play ball hockey whenever they want? There would be liability and insurance issues, just for starters.

Have you heard of a park or community centre?

Problem here is the city likely gave them the money, but didn’t ensure any sort of public use clauses were in it.

At the end of the day, TN has insurance though. You let people on your property to get to the businesses... they could still fall.

[OTA in Winnipeg]

Originally Posted by Andy6

people take over a public square to play ball hockey

Haha, could have been baseball.