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Old Posted Mar 10, 2020, 5:17 AM
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Transit needs to be built one step at a time. Building subway or elevated rail is skipping at least two major steps. Not successful with regular bus, BRT, or light rail yet but now it's time for elevated rail or subway? I don't see any nuance in that approach.
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Old Posted Mar 10, 2020, 11:38 AM
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Wait, am I an idiot, did I read the numbers wrong? $22.5 million fare revenue? Not $28 million? It just reinforces my point even further.

It's odd USA has much more socialist mentality than Canada, the transit fares have to be super low in US while in Canada transit gets much less subsidy and riders are forced to pay closer to the actual cost (50-70%). I think the "equity framework" is a large part of why the ridership is so much lower in US.



Grade separation is only needed for extremely narrow corridors or high ridership lines with very high frequencies, so transit doesn't intefere with regular traffic. Otherwise what benefit does grade separation provide?

Transit needs to be built one step at a time. Building subway or elevated rail is skipping at least two major steps. Not successful with regular bus, BRT, or light rail yet but now it's time for elevated rail or subway? I don't see any nuance in that approach. Nuance means building up the system and the ridership gradually, and it's hard to do that with $1.25 fares and throwing billions into subway construction.
I mean, it seems like a lot of the best systems in the world aren't cheap to ride, which makes complete sense.

Riding the London Tube is infinitely more valuable than riding Jonesboro Arkansas' three bus routes.
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Old Posted Mar 10, 2020, 4:09 PM
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Yeah, the good ole days.

We can't do that anymore because it cost way too much to just to the "cheap" stuff here in America.
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Old Posted Mar 10, 2020, 4:46 PM
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Does this exist anymore?

So much that was built in the early 20th century was not sustainable and it was eventually lost by mid-century.

We need to invest more wisely today.
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Old Posted Mar 10, 2020, 5:29 PM
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^ Yes, this is the Sunnyside neighborhood in Queens and it very much still exists.
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Old Posted Mar 10, 2020, 6:44 PM
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It's definitely not their first line but Denver (RTD) seems to know how to build stations in the middle of nowhere (something Austin isn't doing with these lines except for the green line). If we build it they will come. To be fair I think they work on a system more similar to Dallas. Denver has a metro of only 900,000 more people or about where Austin will be when this is completed. They also have a full system. We have zilch, nada, ne rien, nothing. This will be our stepping stone and sadly we have to go big because of the damn idiotic voters of 2000 voting no. If this bill fails the next one is going to need to be even bigger and so on. We are planning for the future with this rail and based on projections this is just a part of what we will need by the time this project is completed.
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Old Posted Mar 10, 2020, 7:13 PM
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Does this exist anymore?

So much that was built in the early 20th century was not sustainable and it was eventually lost by mid-century.

We need to invest more wisely today.

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Old Posted Mar 11, 2020, 1:14 AM
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Does this exist anymore?

So much that was built in the early 20th century was not sustainable and it was eventually lost by mid-century.

We need to invest more wisely today.
lol. does it exist anymore?

it's like 1 mile east of manhattan.
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More renderings of the Subway Station in here.

https://capmetro.org/uploadedFiles/N...OA_Meeting.pdf
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Austin City Council Wants To Help Prevent People From Getting Priced Out If New Transit Is Built

https://www.kut.org/post/austin-city...-transit-built

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- The Austin City Council voted July 27th to move forward with plans to seek a property tax increase to help fund Project Connect, a plan to build more train and bus lines. Part of that money would be directed toward strategies to prevent people from getting displaced by potential new development along transit lines, in a city where many people have been forced to relocate because of the escalating cost of housing. The tax increase of 8.75 cents per $100 of property valuation would fund a $7 billion initial expansion of the transit system, as opposed to a higher tax rate of 11 cents that would have funded the full system plan of $10 billion. The council will formally vote next month on whether to put the plan to voters in a November referendum. Officials anticipate the federal government will pay for 45% of the plan, leaving the rest to be funded locally. The Capital Metro Board also voted to direct $73 million out of its upcoming budget to help start the process, including improvements on the current Red Line and expanded MetroRapid bus service.

- Staff from both the city and Cap Metro had recommended an 8.5 cent property tax rate, but council members sought more money to invest in displacement mitigation. The plan now calls for a $300 million fund to address displacement, up from $100 million. Potential strategies could include buying land, investing in affordable housing and targeting rental assistance for people along the corridor. “These [strategies] need to be unique to the neighborhoods along these corridors, they need to be co-created with the community and they need to begin ahead of construction,” Council Member Ann Kitchen, who is also a Cap Metro board member, said. The potential transit referendum was one reason city leaders opted for a lower tax rate to fund the city’s budget next year. The rate will likely increase by 3.5%, which council members said would be the lowest increase in more than a decade. Both the council and board will also vote next week on whether to form a new local government corporation to oversee the funding and implementation of Project Connect.

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Ballot language has been approved, and now it's up to the voters.

https://communityimpact.com/austin/c...-voters-nov-3/
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Old Posted Aug 14, 2020, 8:19 PM
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"Approving the ad valorem tax rate of $0.5335 per $100 valuation in the City of Austin for the current year, a rate that is $0.0875 higher per $100 valuation than the voter-approval tax rate of the City of Austin, for the purpose of providing funds to implement a citywide traffic easing rapid transit system, known as Project Connect, and to fund associated investments that encourage affordable housing along transit corridors; address traffic congestion; expand service for essential workers; reduce emissions; decrease traffic fatalities; create jobs; provide additional access to jobs, education, health care, and to the airport; the transit system is to include a fixed rail and bus rapid transit system, including associated roadway, bikeway, sidewalk, and street lighting improvements; park & ride hubs; on-demand neighborhood circulator shuttles; innovative customer technology; and improved access for seniors and persons with disabilities; and is to be operated by the Capital Metropolitan Transportation Authority, expending its funds to build, operate and maintain the transit system; the additional revenue raised by the tax rate is to be dedicated to an independent board to oversee and finance the acquisition, construction, equipping, and operations and maintenance of the rapid transit system by providing funds for loans and grants to develop or expand transportation within the City, and to finance transit-supported anti-displacement strategies. Last year, the ad valorem tax rate in the City of Austin was $0.4431 per $100 valuation."

I think it's pretty decent. I really really really hope it passes.
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