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I get the feeling that a lot of architects just don't care about the birds :'(
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The delays should be minimal, if any at all.
They are both saying this will cause no additional delays...

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"Both parties remain confident this disagreement will not interfere with construction progress on the World Trade Center site and look forward to continuing their building partnership."
But its funny, Silverstein and the Port Authority have done nothing but fight during their entire relationship, but they just can't quit each other...
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How come this tower hasn't started construction yet???
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How come this tower hasn't started construction yet???
Read post #459, just a few posts before your own...
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That corner of the site looks less active than more recently.
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That corner of the site looks less active than more recently.
That's because the PA is finished with that part of the site. Silverstein hasn't moved in yet, and won't until the dispute with the PA is settled. When he does, this will join all of the other towers under construction.
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STATEMENT BY THE PORT AUTHORITY AND SILVERSTEIN PROPERTIES ON ARBITRATION DECISION REGARDING WTC SITE 2 AND 4

Date: December 12, 2008


"The arbitration panel ruled that work must continue on World Trade Center sites 2 and 4 in order to complete the Port Authority’s site turnover obligations, and as a result the panel reinstated liquated damages effective to October 5. In anticipation of this ruling, the Port Authority and Silverstein Properties had already begun working cooperatively to resolve the outstanding issues that remain.

"The arbitration process quickly resolved this dispute, working exactly as intended, and we appreciate the hard work and professionalism of the three-member panel. Both parties remain 100 percent committed to delivering on our shared commitment to rebuild the World Trade Center. We are also pleased that in their ruling the arbitrators recognized the joint cooperation that has and will continue to exist between the Port Authority and Silverstein Properties in resolving the myriad of complex construction issues that have arisen and will inevitably arise as construction moves forward.

"The Port Authority also has informed Silverstein Properties that it will not meet its December 31, 2008 deadline for the final site turnover obligations, which include tracts of land for Towers 2 and 3 that abut the Number 1 subway box and temporary World Trade Center PATH Station. We will work jointly to resolve the issues that will cause this last deadline to be missed."

ARBITRATION DECISION SUMMARY AND CONCLUSION

With respect to Site 4, by changing its plan for excavation under and support of the subway box, and by erecting the soldier pile wall, the PA has neither completed the East Bathtub Preparatory Work nor delivered Site 4 in Construction-Ready Condition.

With respect to Site 2:

-Caissons. Lack of MTA approval for installation of the caissons prevents Site 2 from being in Construction-Ready Condition.

-Access. SPI's claim of being denied uninterrupted access is rejected under the conditions now prevailing at the site.

-Void. SPI's claim with respect to the void is sustained; the PA is obligated to remove the bracing materials and other construction remnants and to backfill the void.

-Rock bolts. The PA is required to "burn off' the rock-bolt projections in the North Slurry Wall of the East Bathtub.

-Tie backs. The work having been completed, this problem is moot.

-Rock Ledge. For lack of sufficient evidence, the panel does not rule, but instead assumes that if there is a problem the parties will work it out without further assistance from the panel.

-Demobilization. Since that process has now been completed, the issue is moot at this time.



The panel finds and concludes that due to the conditions on the sites as discussed above,

The PA's October 5, 2008 Certification of Final Site Completion for Site 4 did not effectively constitute a final turnover of Site 4.

The PA's October 5, 2008 Certification of Partial Site Completion for Site 2 did not effectively constitute a partial turnover of Site 2.

A certificate of partial completion of Site 2 or of final completion of Site 4 may not properly be issued until the conditions identified in this decision have been cured or otherwise agreed to by the parties.

Liquidated damages owed by the PA to SPI have continued to run since October 5, 2008, and must be paid promptly by the PA, with applicable interest to the date of payment.

As noted above, the PA is charged with paying the fees and expenses of the arbitrators.



Final note.

The panel notes that in developing the design for the redevelopment of the World Trade Center, and in preparing the MDA and its related agreements, the parties have admirably cooperated in facing and resolving many of the conflicts and problems that arose. We commend them in this effort. Now that they are into actual construction, that level of cooperation must not only continue but increase, particularly in communicating with respect to problems as soon as they arise, so that efficient and practical adjustments and solutions can be developed with minimal difficulty.

Through a continued and applied spirit of cooperation throughout the construction process, the PA and SPI should be able to complete as quickly as reasonably possible the entire redevelopment project, not only as a revitalized commercial center for New York City, but also as a symbol for the entire nation of the indomitable American spirit and its determination to rise above and overcome the tragedy of 9/11.
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TARDY PA TO PAY $49M ON WTC

By HENRY GOLDMAN and DAVID LEVITT, Bloomberg
December 13, 2008


The Port Authority must pay about $49.5 million in penalties to developer Larry Silverstein for failing to meet an Oct. 5 deadline on work at the World Trade Center site, an arbitration panel ruled.

The authority, which owns the 16-acre tract, will also miss a Dec. 31 deadline for final site preparation for Towers 2 and 3, the agency and Silverstein said in a joint statement. The authority's contract with Silverstein calls for penalties of $300,000 a day for missed deadlines.

"It might sound as if the Port Authority is being forced to pay a lot of money, but Silverstein Properties pays $215,000 a day in ground rent," Silverstein spokesman Bud Perrone said. "The penalty was always intended to make up for the loss of rent plus the cost of delay," as well as an incentive to get work done on time.

Silverstein plans to build three towers comprising 6.2 million square feet. The skyscrapers are part of a more than $12 billion plan to construct a new World Trade Center, with offices, stores and a transit hub sharing space with a shrine to the 9/11 victims and a memorial museum.

Although the Port Authority contended that it had completed site preparation Oct. 5 for Towers 2 and 4, Silverstein disagreed, and the arbitration panel agreed with him, ordering the agency to pay the penalties, which total $49.5 million dating back to July 1.

The agency earlier missed a Jan. 1 deadline on other work that wasn't completed until Feb. 17, incurring another $14.5 million in penalties, Perrone said.

The authority wouldn't estimate when the work would be completed, spokeswoman Candace McAdams said.

"We're working with them, and we'll continue to work with them to get the remaining issues resolved so we can move forward," she said.
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Panel rules Port owes Silverstein millions



The concrete core of Tower 4 is rising, but Silverstein Properties will not be able to install several structural columns until the Port Authority demolishes a wall, visible at the back of this photo.



By Julie Shapiro
December 19-25, 2008

The Port Authority had to pay Silverstein Properties more than $20 million in penalties after failing to deliver pieces of the World Trade Center site....

....While the Port contends with the Tower 4 wall, the agency also has to finish up some smaller jobs on the Tower 2 site, the arbitrators ruled. Those include filling a void along Church St., burning off rock-bolt projections and getting the Metropolitan Transportation Authority to approve the installation of caissons.

Even once all those jobs are done, the Port will likely still be paying Silverstein $300,000 a day, because the agency is about to miss another deadline. As of Dec. 31, they are supposed to turn over additional pieces of the Tower 2 and Tower 3 sites near the future Greenwich St., where the building lobbies will be, but those sites will not be ready. Coleman would not estimate how long it would take the Port to finish that work.
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On Wednesday, the authority released an update of the nine milestones it had hoped to achieve during the last three months of 2008.

In the update, Christopher O. Ward, the executive director of the authority, told Gov. David A. Paterson that eight milestones had been achieved. What has not yet happened, Mr. Ward said, is the scheduled turning over of the sites for Tower 2 and Tower 3 to Larry A. Silverstein, who would develop commercial skyscrapers on those lots. The authority and the developer have not yet settled issues over a retaining wall that impinges on an area Mr. Silverstein needs for construction and access to the E train subway station through the Tower 2 site.
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Port: Recession could change W.T.C. timeline


The Port Authority, which is building the World Trade Center memorial, has done a good deal of the steel work for the reflecting pool that will be built where the north Twin Tower stood. Chris Ward, the Port’s executive director, below, promised continued construction activity. “The last thing that’s good economically and the last thing for the community is to…have it feel like some pit,” he said.




By Julie Shapiro and Josh Rogers
January 16-22, 2009

The Port Authority may try to delay the opening of some World Trade Center offices if the economy takes too long to bounce back, the agency’s leader said this week.

The best way to ensure that Towers 2 and 3 are successful may be to phase them in over time, said Chris Ward, the Port’s executive director.

“It would be naïve to think real estate can respond in the same way it was expected to respond in 2006,” Ward said in an hour-long interview with Downtown Express Tuesday. “It’s a different, different world.”

If Towers 2 and 3 do not rise over the next several years, as was expected, Ward promised that something temporary would go in their place. One possibility is to build a retail-filled podium of several stories, then add the skyscrapers when the economy improves. Another possibility is to build a platform at grade. No matter what, the sites will not remain fenced off behind barriers indefinitely.

“This will not be left a construction site,” said Ward, who took over the Port last May. “The last thing that’s good economically and the last thing for the community is to…have it feel like some pit.”

The two towers are being developed by Silverstein Properties, which signed a 99-year lease with the Port for the World Trade Center two months before 9/11. Larry Silverstein, the firm’s head, has maintained that tough economic times are the ideal time to build offices.

“By building now, even if demand for offices either Downtown or anywhere else in the city softens temporarily, we will be ready when the New York and U.S. economies rebound,” Silverstein wrote in a Downtown Express column two months ago. “And have no doubt — they will. They always do.”

Silverstein Properties declined to comment Wednesday on Ward’s remarks.

Ward said Tower 4 will be the easiest for Silverstein to build on time (2012) because it is the most economically viable — the city and the Port have already agreed to lease two-thirds of the office space from Silverstein.


Ward said he was optimistic the incoming Obama administration, which is emphasizing economic stimulus, will back extending the deadline for the tax-free Liberty Bonds beyond the end of the year. Silverstein plans to use the bonds for three W.T.C. office towers and the Port will use them for the Freedom Tower, which is under construction. The bonds will be difficult to sell if they are put on the market long before the buildings’ openings.

Ward also spoke Tuesday about the newly released quarterly milestones for the W.T.C. site. The Port met eight of its nine goals for the fourth quarter of 2008 and set nine more goals for this quarter.

The one goal the Port did not meet was to turn over the excavated sites for Towers 2, 3 and 4 to Silverstein so he can build the towers. The Port initially said in October that the sites for Towers 2 and 4 were ready, but Silverstein disputed that, and an arbitration panel ruled last month that the Port had more work to do. The largest problem was a 200-foot wall the Port left standing right where a column for Tower 4 needed to go.

Ward told Downtown Express that he knew the wall needed to come down, but he thought Silverstein had enough space to work around it and build other parts of the tower’s foundation first. He acknowledged Tuesday that the Port may have overstated its case.


“If we were overly aggressive in that assertion, it was in the sense that we were paying a lot of money in the failure to deliver [the site],” Ward said.

The Port is paying Silverstein $300,000 a day until the sites are cleared and ready for construction under an agreement renegotiated in 2006. The Port also missed another deadline at the end of the year for work on the sites for Towers 2 and 3 and has racked up $60 million worth of fines to date for missing the June and December 2008 deadlines. As a result of the arbitration, the Port and Silverstein have agreed on more detailed guidelines to determine when the sites are done.

Ward said the No. 1 lesson he learned from the arbitration was that communication is essential.

“If we’d been there earlier, better and more often, I don’t think we’d have come to this problem,” Ward said.

It’s the same lesson he’s learned with the community and the public as a whole, whether it’s about street closures or the site’s schedule and budget: The more upfront the Port can be, the better.

But no matter how candid Ward is, many New Yorkers won’t believe in progress at the site until they see it with their own eyes.

“There’s such a cynicism that’s in society right now about building,” Ward said, referring to other major construction projects as well. “That’s just bad for the city, to have the feeling we’re not really building.”


Ward expects the perception to change between the middle and end of the year, as steel for the memorial rises above street level and the Freedom Tower continues to grow. This is a critical year for the project, as work shifts from excavating behind construction barriers to pushing steel skyward, Ward said.

The quarterly milestones are part of Ward’s effort to gain the public’s trust that he will meet the revised schedule for the site, announced last fall. He hopes to add more detail to the milestones and release the goals further in advance, providing a detailed map the public can trace toward completion.

Looking ahead, Ward does not foresee any engineering or planning crises, but he said meeting the deadlines will come down to teamwork and timing — along with good weather.

“There’s no leisure to it,” Ward said. “You can’t take a week off. You can’t think about, ‘I’ll make that up later….’ Those days for this project are literally over.”

One potential source of delay is 130 Liberty St., the contaminated former Deutsche Bank building that stands right where the Vehicle Security Center will go. The Lower Manhattan Development Corp. recently announced another delay of six weeks to three months on the building’s demolition, and that in turn will delay the Vehicle Security Center by the same amount of time.

“Unfortunately, there’s not a lot that can be done without having it completely down,” Ward said.

As construction of the Trade Center progresses, the many projects crammed onto the 16-acre site will continue coming into conflict over the limited space and resources. Ward described his priorities for the site whenever those conflicts arise, and for him, it all goes back to getting the memorial plaza open by the 10-year anniversary of 9/11.

Opening the memorial leads to the priority of finishing the PATH Hub and Vehicle Security Center, which will both open after the 10-year anniversary but will be important to getting people on the site. The 10-year anniversary also made the Port prioritize Greenwich St., the site’s north-south spine, which people will use to access the memorial.

After that comes the office towers: the Port’s Freedom Tower and Silverstein’s Towers 2, 3 and 4. Finally, Ward listed the site’s other projects, like Liberty Park and the performing arts center, which are not as integral to the plan.

One conflict the Port has already resolved required the redesign of the Santiago Calatrava’s PATH hub. To open the memorial on time, the Port added some columns to Calatrava’s belowground mezzanine, enabling workers to build the roof of the mezzanine first, which gives the memorial a floor. Silverstein, the city and the memorial foundation all lobbied the Port to scale back the $3.2 billion station further, but Ward said that was much more difficult than it seemed because everything is interconnected.

“You couldn’t simply say, ‘Make it smaller,’” Ward said, “because then it would have an implication for how much mechanical equipment could you put below-grade, which affected whether or not you could pump the amount of water that you need to pump to make the fountains work…. Probably a fair number of people think we didn’t do enough, but I think we struck the right balance.”

Ward is also trying to balance the community’s concerns with his goal of keeping the project on schedule. Nowhere is that clearer than Vesey St., which the Port had said might have to close between Church St. and W. Broadway for utility work.

“At some point, for hopefully a limited amount of time, it will have to close, and that’s just a fact of life,” Ward said Tuesday. He expects the closure to last less than a year.

More than 15,000 pedestrians use Vesey St. during the morning rush hour, pouring out of the temporary PATH station at Greenwich St., and Ward said he would try to minimize the impact of the closure by keeping the Vesey St. pedestrian bridge open.

The community is particularly concerned about Vesey’s closure because the Port is definitely closing Liberty St. on the south side of the site at the end of this year. Liberty St. will be closed for much longer than Vesey St., but the two closures will likely overlap.
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ug, no temporary buildings please. I'd rather see a hole than a strip mall on the site.
It's an idea the Port Authority started floating around a few years ago, complete with renderings, and this is the second time it's come up in the past couple of months. But really, if it's not something that has been decided on, the PA should keep their mouths shut and get the sites completely turned over already.

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Silverstein Properties declined to comment Wednesday on Ward’s remarks.
Towers 2 and 3 were always going to be built as spec towers, and Silverstein has vowed to build (if the PA gets out of the way). It would be in his interests to build now, and get the jump on any future office construction in Midtown (where there is plenty planned). He has at least four years to worry about tenants.
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It just shows everyone how pathetic the Port Authority really is. Not only are they taking 10 years to build the Freedom Towers foundation, now the PA is slowing down progress on the WTC 4 site with a 20 foot wall and taking their sweet a** time to turn over the site of WTC 2. It's like a chess game between the private sector (Silverstein) and the public sector (PA) fighting for tenants and time.

Not to be political, but it really shows how the private sector is the obvious choice when building skyscrapers.
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That has proven to be the case, particularly with Silverstein at the WTC site.
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Towers 2 and 3 were always going to be built as spec towers, and Silverstein has vowed to build (if the PA gets out of the way). It would be in his interests to build now, and get the jump on any future office construction in Midtown (where there is plenty planned). He has at least four years to worry about tenants.
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It just shows everyone how pathetic the Port Authority really is. Not only are they taking 10 years to build the Freedom Towers foundation, now the PA is slowing down progress on the WTC 4 site with a 20 foot wall and taking their sweet a** time to turn over the site of WTC 2. It's like a chess game between the private sector (Silverstein) and the public sector (PA) fighting for tenants and time.

Not to be political, but it really shows how the private sector is the obvious choice when building skyscrapers.
I thought I'd quote these to celebrate the presence of logic even when everyone else is going crazy with speculation.

Yay.

To make it seem like this post has more of a point, I'll blatantly state it: I agree with NYGuy and HyperPower 100%.
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I know this is beating a dead horse, but lets not forget it took the WTC and the ESB decade to become fully occupied. They were built to meet future demand.

As we all know the purpose of these buildings is to replace the office space that was lost as well as rebuilding the Lower Manhattan skyline. I'm confident, now that I take time to think, that those aspects will be seen by those who matter in this project (Larry) and towers 2 & 3 will be a reality as shown. Though I'm no expert in the development process of the WTC, nor do I have any say, my optimistic comments mirror the term realistic.
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