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Originally Posted by trueviking
why would it matter what rank a city is in its country if one country is 10 times bigger than the other?
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Because if one country is 10 times larger, then the playing field is not level. A city's rank in its country, or even region, not simply its population number, is a pretty good indicator of its influence in that country/region, and as a result, its level of commerce, etc... and thus, its skyline. It's the proverbial apples to oranges comparison when cities in different nations serve different purposes.
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Originally Posted by trueviking
....what matters is the population it serves....a city like winnipeg may be a hub for a much larger geographical area than allentown or jacksonville, but most of that area is arctic tundra.....you would have to draw a 250 mile radius around winnipeg borrowing people from saskatchewan and ontario, to get the 1.3 million people that the jacksonville metro has....just to put that in perspective, a 250 mile radius around jacksonville would include 3/4 of florida and georgia, 1/2 of south carolina and a chunk of alabama.
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Exactly. That just shows that a city like Winnipeg is the sole hub for an entire large region. Within that radius from Jacksonville you have Atlanta, Orlando, Tampa-St. Petersburg, Savannah, Charleston, numerous mid-sized Florida cities, and even it stretches down to the northern part of the South Florida metro area. Each of these serves as hubs for commerce in the same sized region which a place like Winnipeg serves.
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Originally Posted by trueviking
yes, winnipeg is a larger city in canada than jacksonville is in the US, but why would that create any difference in commerce?...it takes total population to create commerce, not percent of regional population.....last time i checked 70% of 1.2 million isnt as many people as 100% of 1.3 million.
the 1.3 million people liviing in jacksonville still go to work there every day...there are more than 100 000 university students there....it might not serve a big area but it serves at least as many people as comparable canadian cities do and thats all that matters....
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how would it not create a difference in commerce when one city (Winnipeg in this case) is the only game in town? Everything is more dispersed among numerous other cities in the region Jacksonville occupies. Also, I believe you are way off in your estimation that there are "more than 100 000 university students there"... no way. It may serve the same amount of people, but a city like Jacksonville definitely does not serve them in the same way. A city like Winnipeg functions as a larger city than a city like Jacksonville does. Jacksonville is only one example of this in the US. It just happens to be the one that the original comparison was made... and it was made with Calgary, by the way... which serves as an even more major city in Canada than Jacksonville does in the US.
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Originally Posted by trueviking
jacksonville's GDP is $50 billion.
winnipeg's GDP is $30 billion
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Well, if those are the numbers, they are actually surprising considering Jacksonville's metro size being almost two times larger... there should actually be a greater difference in Jax favor if proportional levels of commerce were the same... but they are not.
GDP figures just go to show that Winnipeg's standing nationally is higher, at over 2% of Canada's total GDP. Jacksonville accounts for just over
.3%. That's point 3 %. Also, Winnipeg accounts for nearly 70% of Manitoba's GDP!!... not even close for Jacksonville in Florida, much less for its standing the SE region of the US (Atlanta - $270B, Tampa - $112B, Orlando - $105B).
Winnipeg is simply a greater center of commerce for Canada than Jacksonville is for the US... that's gonna bestow a bigger skyline.
But the original comparison was with Calgary... well, let's not even get into that because if Winnipeg ranks as it does, it can be understood how Calgary will rank considering that it is among the top 3 economies in Canada now.
It's an interesting topic, to be sure... and one that does not go unnoticed in market research.