Winnipeg Roads & Infrastructure - Page 8

steveosnyder · #**141** Posted **Nov 26, 2013, 3:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by Cyrodill

City seeks input on plan to ease Polo Park traffic
Open house tonight to discuss project

The city plans to hold an open house at Canad Inns Polo Park tonight from 4 p.m. to 8 p.m. to hear what Winnipeggers have to say about its infrastructure-improvement plan for the busy shopping district.

The plan, which would involve two summers of construction, calls for extending St. Matthews Avenue from Empress Street to Route 90, widening existing portions of St. Matthews in the area, improving St. James Street from Maroons Road to Ellice Avenue and improving the Ellice-St. James intersection

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Rypinion and I had a good "discussion" about this with Councillor Fielding on Twitter... We told him it's a large sum of money and should have a referendum to decide. Unfortunately, he never replied.

esquire · #**142** Posted **Nov 26, 2013, 3:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by steveosnyder

Rypinion and I had a good "discussion" about this with Councillor Fielding on Twitter... We told him it's a large sum of money and should have a referendum to decide. Unfortunately, he never replied.

LOL

What happened to letting the voters decide? Democracy! People power!

Bdog · #**143** Posted **Nov 26, 2013, 4:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by esquire

LOL

What happened to letting the voters decide? Democracy! People power!

No, no, no Esquire, you have it all wrong. Referendums are only for projects that are not in YOUR ward - not for pet projects within your fiefdom. Haven't we learned anything from councillor Wyatt's "Cancel all these wasteful infrastructure projects (except Plessis-Dugald Underpass)" campaign?

steveosnyder · #**144** Posted **Nov 26, 2013, 4:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by Bdog

No, no, no Esquire, you have it all wrong. Referendums are only for projects that are not in YOUR ward - not for pet projects within your fiefdom. Haven't we learned anything from councillor Wyatt's "Cancel all these wasteful infrastructure projects (except Plessis-Dugald Underpass)" campaign?

On that note -- here is an article from the Freep today about the Plessis underpass (kinda).

I find 2 problems with this article though... First, just because 16000 cars travel along a road when it is open doesn't mean that 16000 will move to different routes when it closes.

The other thing is the last paragraph; the author must not know our local government:

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City councils are better placed to make local infrastructure decisions than the Prime Minister's Office or the premier's office. It's time to trust our local politicians more, and federal and provincial politicians a little less.

Sorry, but I trust our local politicians about as much as I trust my dog will cook me dinner when I get home from work.

Edit: forgot link -- http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/opi...233421031.html

Cyro · #**145** Posted **Nov 26, 2013, 5:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by steveosnyder

Rypinion and I had a good "discussion" about this with Councillor Fielding on Twitter... We told him it's a large sum of money and should have a referendum to decide. Unfortunately, he never replied.

Nice job guys, make him sweat publicly, well at least on social media..no reply?? No surprise...

bomberjet · #**146** Posted **Nov 27, 2013, 8:37 PM**

http://www.winnipeg.ca/publicworks/M...structImprove/

Boards from the Polo Park Traffic thing open house are posted. Sure a lot of businesses being bought up for that St. Matthew's extension. Guessing that's where half that $30M is going. Maybe not that much, but a pretty penny anyways.

esquire · #**147** Posted **Nov 27, 2013, 8:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by bomberjet

http://www.winnipeg.ca/publicworks/M...structImprove/

Boards from the Polo Park Traffic thing open house are posted. Sure a lot of businesses being bought up for that St. Matthew's extension. Guessing that's where half that $30M is going. Maybe not that much, but a pretty penny anyways.

Again, very strange that the City installed all those bumpouts on St. Matthews, effectively reducing it to 1 lane in each direction between Polo Park and downtown given that this plan calls for St. Matthews and Silver to be used more heavily.

Why purposely add choke points when you're spending a fortune on increasing capacity of the same street just 1 km west?

Riverman · #**148** Posted **Nov 28, 2013, 12:11 AM**

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Originally Posted by esquire

Why purposely add choke points when you're spending a fortune on increasing capacity of the same street just 1 km west?

Because that's what the cycling lobby wanted.

Authentic_City · #**149** Posted **Nov 28, 2013, 2:01 AM**

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Because that's what the cycling lobby wanted.

No, you can't blame "the cycling lobby" for this and other poorly planned cycling / AT infrastructure projects (e.g Berry St. Bikeway). No, these projects were rushed to completion so the city could take advantage of Federal stimulus dollars (the AT Infrastructure Stimulus Project, 2010). Rushed, poorly planned (or not planned at all), badly executed. I don't think anyone is happy with the result.

thebasketballgeek · #**150** Posted **Nov 29, 2013, 2:24 AM**

amazing news on the highways on winnipeg
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/loc...233724391.html

bomberjet · #**151** Posted **Nov 29, 2013, 3:29 AM**

Welcome to SSP! That is some interesting news. I've noticed cameras going up at various locations in wonjipeg. Some for traffic lights, some just cameras. I wonder if they'll be included.

thebasketballgeek · #**152** Posted **Nov 29, 2013, 3:46 AM**

Thank you bomberjet I appreciate the feedback!!

Biff · #**153** Posted **Nov 29, 2013, 2:29 PM**

Headingley Bypass is essentially a go.

rypinion · #**154** Posted **Nov 29, 2013, 2:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by Biff

Headingley Bypass is essentially a go.

I've always thought about a 'south' Headingley Bypass - Hwy 2 to 424 to the Trans-Canada. It meets the Trans-Canada around where some have suggested the Headingley Bypass will meet.

I wonder if in their really long term planning MIT haa an alignment like that considered as almost an extension to the perimeter.

bomberjet · #**155** Posted **Nov 29, 2013, 3:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by rypinion

I've always thought about a 'south' Headingley Bypass - Hwy 2 to 424 to the Trans-Canada. It meets the Trans-Canada around where some have suggested the Headingley Bypass will meet.

I wonder if in their really long term planning MIT haa an alignment like that considered as almost an extension to the perimeter.

I was thinking the same thing. For trucks and vehicles not going to CentrePort, the north Headingley bypass is out of the way. Kind of. It will probably be a shorter length of time then going through Headingley. So that's acceptable, IMO.

Reignman · #**156** Posted **Nov 29, 2013, 6:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by Biff

Headingley Bypass is essentially a go.

Good news! I really hope that along with the extension of CCW past Headingley that the NE and SE loops will be constructed on the CCW/101 interchange...anyone have any confirmation that is the plan?

bomberjet · #**157** Posted **Nov 29, 2013, 6:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by Reignman

Good news! I really hope that along with the extension of CCW past Headingley that the NE and SE loops will be constructed on the CCW/101 interchange...anyone have any confirmation that is the plan?

It's pretty much 99.999%

northern_hoser · #**158** Posted **Nov 29, 2013, 8:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by rypinion

I've always thought about a 'south' Headingley Bypass - Hwy 2 to 424 to the Trans-Canada. It meets the Trans-Canada around where some have suggested the Headingley Bypass will meet.

I wonder if in their really long term planning MIT haa an alignment like that considered as almost an extension to the perimeter.

Looking at Google Maps that idea could work. I'd guess that it would probably reach the TCH on the west side of the Assiniboine to cut down costs. You could have PTH2 freeway-ish up to PR334, put up an interchange, and then work its way up to PR 427 and 424.

If the Headingly By-Pass is to really meet up with the TCH at St. FX, could there be a larger interchange that would include PTH26?

Yes I know...♪♪Dreamer, you're nothing but a dreamer♪♪

bomberjet · #**159** Posted **Nov 29, 2013, 9:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by northern_hoser

If the Headingly By-Pass is to really meet up with the TCH at St. FX, could there be a larger interchange that would include PTH26?

Only makes sense!

bomberjet · #**160** Posted **Nov 29, 2013, 9:15 PM**

Had a quick look through the prelim 2014 budget for the City and there is some cash budgeted for the Chief and Bill Clement Extensions. $1.5M for the Chief Peguis - Main St to Route 90 extension and $800k for the Bill Clement - Grant to Wilkes extension. Engineering works I'm thinking. Haven't heard much about these recently since the big announcement a year or so ago that they were being pushed ahead.