City Murder Rates

[lextown]

Originally Posted by The North One

Good for you?

What I'm saying is since I don't think you got it is that detroits crime might also be down because the criminals from there are spending more time in other areas where the money is better Like Kentucky where they have been responsible for a rise in crime.

[The North One]

Originally Posted by lextown

What I'm saying is since I don't think you got it is that detroits crime might also be down because the criminals from there are spending more time in other areas where the money is better Like Kentucky where they have been responsible for a rise in crime.

Interesting theory, but no.

If criminals wanted to spend time in areas with better "money" and stir shit up they'd just drive up Woodward to Oakland County.

Keep blaming Detroiters for your state's crime if it makes you feel better I guess? Maybe they got a thing for Kentucky, they could be making field trips? Sounds like a conspiracy.

[Jonesy55]

Originally Posted by balletomane

I believe Canada's stats for urban areas over 500,000 are:
1. Edmonton 26 homicides (2.8/100,000) pop. 933,000
2. Winnipeg 12 homicides (1.7/100,000) pop. 705,000
3. Quebec City 9 homicides (1.7/100,000) pop. 532,000
4. Vancouver 10 homicides (1.6/100,000) pop. 631,000
5. Hamilton 5 homicides (0.9/100,000) pop. 537,000
6. Calgary 10 homicides (0.8/100,000) pop. 1,239,000
7. Toronto 22 homicides (0.8/100,000) pop. 2,732,000
8. Montreal 11 homicides (0.6/100,000) pop. 1,705,000
9. Ottawa 6 homicides (0.6/100,000) pop. 934,000

That's only for half the year though right? So you need to double those rates to get annual murder figures (or include the second half of 2016 for a rolling annual figure).

[balletomane]

Originally Posted by Jonesy55

That's only for half the year though right? So you need to double those rates to get annual murder figures (or include the second half of 2016 for a rolling annual figure).

Yes, those are the most recent statistics I could find for those cities, so assuming the trends continue for the second half of the year, the murder rates for 2017 in Canadian cities will be,
Edmonton 5.6/100,000
Winnipeg 3.4/100,000
Quebec City 3.4/100,000 (this is highly unlikely since Quebec City normally has 1 annually, the higher total for this year is due to the mosque shooting)
Vancouver 3.2/100,000
Hamilton 1.8/100,000
Calgary 1.6/100,000
Toronto 1.6/100,000
Montreal 1.2/100,000
Ottawa 1.2/100,000

[Darkoshvilli]

Originally Posted by balletomane

I believe Canada's stats for urban areas over 500,000 are:
1. Edmonton 26 homicides (2.8/100,000) pop. 933,000
2. Winnipeg 12 homicides (1.7/100,000) pop. 705,000
3. Quebec City 9 homicides (1.7/100,000) pop. 532,000
4. Vancouver 10 homicides (1.6/100,000) pop. 631,000
5. Hamilton 5 homicides (0.9/100,000) pop. 537,000
6. Calgary 10 homicides (0.8/100,000) pop. 1,239,000
7. Toronto 22 homicides (0.8/100,000) pop. 2,732,000
8. Montreal 11 homicides (0.6/100,000) pop. 1,705,000
9. Ottawa 6 homicides (0.6/100,000) pop. 934,000

Two corrections for montreal: The population served by the Montreal police is 2 million (the whole island of montreal) and not 1.7m which is just the demerged city.

We're at 9 and not 11 as two of those occurred last year but they opened the files this year. So the actual rate is even lower than that.

[balletomane]

Originally Posted by Darkoshvilli

Two corrections for montreal: The population served by the Montreal police is 2 million (the whole island of montreal) and not 1.7m which is just the demerged city.

We're at 9 and not 11 as two of those occurred last year but they opened the files this year. So the actual rate is even lower than that.

Thanks for the corrections.
So Montreal must be on track for a record low then?

[Darkoshvilli]

Originally Posted by balletomane

Thanks for the corrections.
So Montreal must be on track for a record low then?

Pretty much. The city's been setting new lows it seems almost every year this decade.

[LMich]

Okay, so the data portal for Detroit was very wrong, and I'm trying to figure out why. Either way, the Detroit News reported that there has been 133 homicides YTD as of July 3, which is only down 4% from the previous year as of that date. Still, combined homicides and non-fatal shootings are down 24% since 2012, and apparently Detroit's non-fatal shootings per capita is about 9% fewer than Chicago. The homicide rate is still much, much too high.

[The North One]

Damn, that's unfortunate.

But it's good to see a steady decline this year.

[lextown]

Originally Posted by The North One

Interesting theory, but no.

If criminals wanted to spend time in areas with better "money" and stir shit up they'd just drive up Woodward to Oakland County.

Keep blaming Detroiters for your state's crime if it makes you feel better I guess? Maybe they got a thing for Kentucky, they could be making field trips? Sounds like a conspiracy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvzQ1rasl5E

Watch this maybe this will help you understand.

[lextown]

Charlotte NC is at 49. http://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/man...2017/549181185

San Jose CA is at 15.

Rochester NY is at 11. http://13wham.com/news/local/weyl-st...s-for-neighbor

Chattanooga TN is at 18. Up from 16 last year.

Toledo OH is at 23. Doubling last years number at this time http://www.toledoblade.com/local/201...st-Toledo.html

Jersey City NJ is at 13. http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2...cial_says.html

Memphis TN is at 103. http://www.fox13memphis.com/top-stor...lled/549361348

Baltimore MD is at 176. http://data.baltimoresun.com/news/po...ll&article=all

[The North One]

Originally Posted by lextown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvzQ1rasl5E

Watch this maybe this will help you understand.

Gangs have connections all across the country, this doesn't mean shit.

[lextown]

Originally Posted by The North One

Gangs have connections all across the country, this doesn't mean shit.

Definitely not at such of a high rate of Detroit's connection in Kentucky. Detroit 3 years ago was responsible for 1/6 of the arrests of heroin dealing arrests in lexington and that rate has increased since. People from Detroit have a high presence in the whole state. Even getting arrested for plenty of crimes in the 98% white region of eastern Kentucky. They also have a high presence in West Virginia and many more drug markets now that bring more money to them. The video I shared earlier even had Detroit police officers saying that a lot of the criminals from Detroit are coming down here because there is more money here. Well Here it is again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvzQ1rasl5E
http://motorcitymuckraker.com/2014/0...a-communities/




Baltimore MD is at 180. http://data.baltimoresun.com/news/po...ll&article=all

[The North One]

Money? no, there is a strong market for them to sell their drugs that white middle-class Kentucky folks are obviously eating up, there's plenty if not much more "money" in the Detroit region. Have drug dealers have turf? color me shocked.

It's got nothing to do with the steady decade-long decline of crime in Detroit city proper.

[lextown]

Originally Posted by The North One

Money? no, there is a strong market for them to sell their drugs that white middle-class Kentucky folks are obviously eating up, there's plenty if not much more "money" in the Detroit region. Have drug dealers have turf? color me shocked.

It's got nothing to do with the steady decade-long decline of crime in Detroit city proper.

The video literally had a Detroit police officer saying they make triple what they would make in Kentucky than they would in Detroit. Plus if the criminals from Detroit are spending all there time in West Virginia and Kentucky doing lots of crimes and getting arrested than yes that does play a part in the decline in Detroit's crime rate.

Lansing MI is at 9.

Louisville KY is at 66.

Baltimore MD is at 183. http://data.baltimoresun.com/news/po...ll&article=all

[tech12]

San Francisco murders as of July 8th, plus totals, going back to 2005:

2017 - 34
2016 - 28 (59)
2015 - 27 (53)
2014 - 19 (45)
2013 - 23 (48)
2012 - 40 (69)
2011 - 30 (50)
2010 - 29 (50)
2009 - 26 (47)
2008 - 59 (98)
2007 - 61 (100)
2006 - 45 (86)
2005 - 41 (96)

[KevinFromTexas]

1 dead - Man found shot, dead in wrecked pickup in Southeast Austin - 7/9

Pending

1 dead - Official:Body found in Pedernales River - 7/9

2017 Austin Metro Murders

| Austin 12 | Travis Co. 19 | Bastrop Co. 0 | Caldwell Co. 0 | Hays Co. 4 | Williamson Co. 1 | Metro 24 |

Metro totals:
Shooting - 18
Stabbing - 4
Strangled - 0
Suffocation - 0
Throwing (of child) - 0
Beating - 0
Vehicular - 1
Blunt force trauma - 0
Unlisted cause - 1

Austin totals:
Downtown - 0
Central Austin - 1
East Austin - 3
North Austin - 3
Northeast Austin - 1
Northwest Austin - 0
South Austin - 3
Southeast Austin - 1
Southwest Austin - 0
West Austin - 0

Victims
Male - 17
Female - 5
Unlisted - 2

| Jan 1 | Feb 6 | Mar 7 | Apr 1 | May 5 | Jun 3 | Jul 1 | Aug 0 | Sep 0 | Oct 0 | Nov 0 | Dec 0 |

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| Mon 2 | Tue 1 | Wed 7 | Thur 5 | Fri 3 | Sat 1 | Sun 5 |

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Austin Metro Murder cases

1 dead - Sheriff: Woman killed daughter, 5, in one of Hays County’s ‘worst’ cases - 1/5

1 dead - Police: Alcohol possibly involved in South Austin fatal shooting Saturday - 2/4

1 dead - Man accused of hitting woman twice with car in North Austin charged with murder - 2/5

1 dead - Victim in fatal Round Rock shooting was veteran, loving dad, neighbor says - 2/8

1 dead - Woman found dead in Hays County after apparent disturbance with husband, deputies say - 2/9

1 dead - 2 Hays County shooting deaths in 5 hours; 1 case still unsolved - 2/9

1 dead - Authorities: Bastrop kidnapping ends in fatal shooting of woman; shooter turns gun on self - 2/15

1 dead - Man found stabbed at East Austin bus stop - 3/10

1 dead - NEW DETAILS: Man accused of murder after shooting in North Austin on Sunday, police say - 3/12

1 dead - Gang, homicide investigators seeking shooter after man killed in East Austin  - 3/15

2 dead - NEW DETAILS: Authorities ID suspect in double homicide near Lake Travis  - 3/15

1 dead - Shooter on the run after homicide near Wells Branch, North Austin, officials say - 3/16

1 dead - NEW DETAILS: Police: Man fatally shot in North Austin, suspect still on the loose - 3/26

1 dead - Travis Co sheriff releases person of interest photo in Friday homicide - 4/7

1 dead - EMS: 1 dead, 3 injured in stabbing at UT campus; suspect in custody - 5/1

1 dead - Two bodies found at South Austin home ruled murder/suicide - 5/3

1 dead - Man charged with murder in father’s death - 5/7

1 dead - HOMICIDE CASE: Gunshot victim found in Pflugerville parking lot by police - 5/10

1 dead - Man killed in shooting on South Congress Ave. identified - 5/19

1 dead - SHOOTING UPDATE: Man dies in NE Austin, 10 miles away from shooting, police say - 6/8

1 dead - SAN MARCOS: Man, 28, dies after being shot and run over with own car - 6/20

1 dead - NEW DETAILS: Police identify man, woman found dead in North Austin home - 6/20

1 dead - Man found shot, dead in wrecked pickup in Southeast Austin - 7/9

Pending cases

2 dead - Austin police investigating two deaths at South Austin La Quinta Inn - 3/2

1 dead - NEW DETAILS: Man in his 20s found dead in South Austin creek, police say - 4/7

1 dead - Police: SB I-35 frontage road at Parmer Ln. reopens after body found - 5/27

1 dead - Actress, beauty queen Margaret Ann Garza, 31, found dead in Round Rock - 6/1

1 dead - BREAKING: Body found in Spicewood field, Travis County authorities say - 6/21

1 dead - Official:Body found in Pedernales River - 7/9

Austin area population

City: 947,890 (July 1, 2016 estimate) - source: US Census Bureau
Travis County: 1,199,323 (July 1, 2016 estimate) - source: US Census Bureau
Metro: 2,056,405 (July 1, 2016 estimate) - source: US Census Bureau

Area - City: 297 square miles (2010) - US Census Bureau
Area - Metro: 4,285 square miles - Wikipedia
Area - Travis County: 1,023 square miles - Wikipedia

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Previous years

2016 - 39
2015 - 19
2014 - 31
2013 - 25
2012 - 32
2011 - 28
2010 - 31
2009 - 23
2008 - 24
2007 - 30
2006 - 20

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| Austin 13 | Travis Co. 13 | Bastrop Co. 1 | Caldwell Co. 0 | Hays Co. 3 | Williamson Co. 0 | Metro 17 | - 7/9/2016


| Austin 12 | Travis Co. 19 | Bastrop Co. 0 | Caldwell Co. 0 | Has Co. 4 | Williamson Co. 1 | Metro 24 | - 7/9/2017

[The North One]

Originally Posted by lextown

The video literally had a Detroit police officer saying they make triple what they would make in Kentucky than they would in Detroit. Plus if the criminals from Detroit are spending all there time in West Virginia and Kentucky doing lots of crimes and getting arrested than yes that does play a part in the decline in Detroit's crime rate.

This isn't in contradiction with anything I said. Inner cities obviously don't sell drugs to themselves they go to the suburbs, it's white middle-class Bettys buying that shit. And for some reason, Detroit's drug lords found a more exploitable market and established turf in Kentucky rather than the metro region. If it wasn't them it would be somebody else. Competition is also a factor.

[lextown]

Originally Posted by The North One

This isn't in contradiction with anything I said. Inner cities obviously don't sell drugs to themselves they go to the suburbs, it's white middle-class Bettys buying that shit. And for some reason, Detroit's drug lords found a more exploitable market and established turf in Kentucky rather than the metro region. If it wasn't them it would be somebody else. Competition is also a factor.

So now you agree that Detroit has been a factor for increase crime in Kentucky and West Virginia? that was all I was trying to get into your head because you obviously didn't believe it was possible earlier.
You also acted like people from Detroit literally had the same presents here as any other city with gangs when that is entirely bogus.
If you go back and read your comments everything you said was contradicting yourself to the belief you have now.

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Baltimore MD is at 183.

Prince George County MD is at 48 after 12 in the last 2 weeks.

[Darkoshvilli]

Montreal has 10. A man was stabbed in Pointe-Aux-Trembles, in the eastern end of the island.

Due to the mass murder in the Quebec City mosque bot cities are pretty much neck in neck which is unheard of this far into the year. My guess for when the last time Quebec City had more murders than Montreal would be sometime in the 19th century.