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Old Posted Jun 3, 2021, 6:30 PM
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[Halifax] The Nook (2487-97 Maynard) | 14 M | 2X5 FL | Completed/Proposed


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Document says construction will begin in July so this must be as-of-right under the old zoning. Centre Plan zoning would of required a site plan approval.
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Old Posted Jun 4, 2021, 6:33 PM
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This is definitely big enough to have to go through the full site plan approval process.
There is an application listed for site plan approval on the latest Site Plan Approval Tracking List put out for the DAC agenda this month that has a project listed just as Maynard St. It is likely this one.

https://www.halifax.ca/sites/default...09dac913_1.pdf
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^I thought that too but it doesn't line up with the document I just got yesterday. The information sheet is a construction mitigation plan with specific timelines for when the building will be built with the start date as July 2021 for excavation and occupancy in November 2022. Also would a CMP be made for a project that is still only proposed?

This site has been vacant for a few years. It's been used seasonally as a snowplow depot and is used by police as a meeting spot but never actually occupied by a real tenant. Also the 'For Lease' sign that was there was removed sometime last year IIRC. Put all of this together and I think it is an as-of-right project under the old zoning. Just like East West Street down the street I think they got a development permit before Centre Plan came into effect and they are just now getting to the construction stage. The Marco Group has been busy the last few years and just finished up The Berkeley on Pepperell so maybe this has been planned for awhile.
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At least it's a breath of fresh air - doesn't look just like a dozen other buildings that have gone up around here in the past few years...oh...wait...
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^I thought that too but it doesn't line up with the document I just got yesterday. The information sheet is a construction mitigation plan with specific timelines for when the building will be built with the start date as July 2021 for excavation and occupancy in November 2022. Also would a CMP be made for a project that is still only proposed?

This site has been vacant for a few years. It's been used seasonally as a snowplow depot and is used by police as a meeting spot but never actually occupied by a real tenant. Also the 'For Lease' sign that was there was removed sometime last year IIRC. Put all of this together and I think it is an as-of-right project under the old zoning. Just like East West Street down the street I think they got a development permit before Centre Plan came into effect and they are just now getting to the construction stage. The Marco Group has been busy the last few years and just finished up The Berkeley on Pepperell so maybe this has been planned for awhile.
Buildings without full approval can proceed with excavation and subgrade construction without full approval. That is what we saw with Richmond Yards as well as what we are seeing with the development at Cogswell and Gottingen which is also on that list but has yet to get full approvals.
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This is definitely big enough to have to go through the full site plan approval process.
There is an application listed for site plan approval on the latest Site Plan Approval Tracking List put out for the DAC agenda this month that has a project listed just as Maynard St. It is likely this one.

https://www.halifax.ca/sites/default...09dac913_1.pdf
The July update confirms that you are correct and this still requires a Level II Site Plan approval. It's listed as "Awaiting Pre-Application Completion. Awaiting comments on second set of revisions. Abuts Heritage property, requires revision."

https://www.halifax.ca/sites/default...0714dac912.pdf

The heritage property it abuts is The Morris House which is the oldest wooden residence in Nova Scotia and was moved to this site in 2013 from Hollis Street to make way for Vic Suites.
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... The Morris House which is the oldest wooden residence in Nova Scotia and was moved to this site in 2013...
... and which is still vacant!

If the Heritage Trust (which moved the house) wanted to demonstrate that the reuse of heritage buildings was economical, I suspect this is a spectacular failure.
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... and which is still vacant!

If the Heritage Trust (which moved the house) wanted to demonstrate that the reuse of heritage buildings was economical, I suspect this is a spectacular failure.
The Heritage Trust saved the oldest wooden residence in Halifax and it looks great. Even if it is currently empty the fact it was saved is a great thing.
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The Heritage Trust saved the oldest wooden residence in Halifax and it looks great. Even if it is currently empty the fact it was saved is a great thing.
The benefit of the house is mostly that it looks good and is an example of important preserved heritage of the city. Maybe it should be a small museum or community space; the use doesn't necessarily have to pay for the structure to be worth it because the benefit is not just the internal space.
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The benefit of the house is mostly that it looks good and is an example of important preserved heritage of the city. Maybe it should be a small museum or community space; the use doesn't necessarily have to pay for the structure to be worth it because the benefit is not just the internal space.
Agreed.
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The benefit of the house is mostly that it looks good and is an example of important preserved heritage of the city. Maybe it should be a small museum or community space; the use doesn't necessarily have to pay for the structure to be worth it because the benefit is not just the internal space.
The benefit, if there is any, came at great cost. Not all benefits are worth the price.
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The benefit, if there is any, came at great cost. Not all benefits are worth the price.
Keith, who paid the great cost?
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It should be noted The Morris House is occupied now. I'm not sure if its a program, shelter, or just a private rental but there are people living there.
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It should be noted The Morris House is occupied now. I'm not sure if its a program, shelter, or just a private rental but there are people living there.
https://unravelhalifax.ca/morris-houses-rebirth/

This blog post from last month states that Phoenix Youth Programs runs the house now.
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Sounds like money well spent
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Sounds like money well spent
Yup!
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Sounds like money well spent
How much did it all end up costing?
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How much did it all end up costing?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...s-1m-1.1309325

"The cost of moving, renovating and adding an addition to the centuries-old Morris House has been released - and it's not cheap.

The restoration and move of the 80 tonne building is expected to cost $400,000, while the new addition comes with a $600,000 price tag. Combined, it's costing nearly $1 million to bring new life into the 249-year-old home."

I'd be very surprised if it didn't go over the cost stated in the article.
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