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I wouldn't have placed it if you hadn't enlarged the photograph.
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I've never heard of this college before.

The seller says this is the administration building at Los Angeles Pacific College.
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Located in Hermon. I've never heard of Hermon either.

Here's Hermon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermon,_Los_Angeles
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Old Posted Jan 30, 2014, 11:56 PM
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2014, 12:36 AM
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this looks familiar but...
I searched several different ways and nothing came up for Pacific Auto Works.

Schilling & Schilling, 1928

http://theoldmotor.com/?p=2762


1982 -I was quite surprised to find this at a different site.

http://friendsofsdarch.photoshelter....000trIp2HVAJFw




-four service bays

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages...tml?1325696017

After several more searches, it turns out the address is 1910 American Way, Long Beach....and the garage is nowhere to be found.

If all this has been posted before on NLA save me the embarrassment. (I'm looking at you Tourmaline with your smiling wavy guy)

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this looks familiar but...
I searched several different ways and nothing came up for Pacific Auto Works.

Schilling & Schilling, 1928

http://theoldmotor.com/?p=2762

If all this has been posted before on NLA save me the embarrassment. (I'm looking at you Tourmaline with your smiling wavy guy)

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Old Posted Jan 31, 2014, 1:21 AM
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The neighboring Washington Park has also had a few passing mentions, but I didn't find any pictures. The Chutes Theater and waterslide are clearly visible in the background of the second picture below.


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Thanks for the ballpark photos, HossC! I've always been confused about Chutes Park vs. Washington Park. I’m still confused, but not as much.
Looking back now at contemporary news articles, it seems as though there was Chutes Park (1901-10), Washington Park I (1911-20; built on basically
the same spot), and Washington Park II (in use 1921-25; built a little to the southeast, at least partially constructed of stands moved from Washington Park I).


January 15, 1911, Los Angeles Times (partial article):




ProQuest via LAPL


This sounds like almost an entirely new structure, if indeed not completely new, although it's possible some of the bleachers may have been left standing:




March 2, 1911, Los Angeles Times @ ProQuest via LAPL


The next mention I found of new ballpark construction was 1921; it sounds like the stands were physically moved to the new site ("UP BY ROOTS"):





February 2, 1921, Los Angeles Times@ ProQuest via LAPL


The new ballpark was built because Hill Street was being extended south from Washington:



December 19, 1920, Los Angeles Times @ ProQuest via LAPL


The top photo above ("Los Angeles's Historic Ballparks") has to be Chutes Park. USC has a copy of the same photo: http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...id/23777/rec/9

There's a short, detached bleacher section down the left field line, and a longer, detached bleacher section down the right field line, as in the 1907 Sanborn Map below.
The covered area of the grandstand in the photo matches the 1907 Sanborn Map.


Here’s a slightly larger version of the second photo (from behind home plate): http://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource/pan.6a29679/

My guess is the second photo is Washington Park I. It doesn’t look like Chutes Park (compare with USC photo; different roof, different stands), but it couldn’t be Washington Park II,
because the Chutes Theater and ride are visible beyond right field. Also, the second photo is dated 1911, which was when Washington Park I was built.


1907 Sanborn Map, Chutes Park:




ProQuest via LAPL


1922 Sanborn Map, Washington Park (II):




ProQuest via LAPL


Washington Park (II), 1924, with Hill Street along 1st Base (seen here before I think). This photo shows a bleacher section beyond the right field wall not
shown in the 1911 photo of Washington Park I (in HossC's post at top and also linked above), so that might be new (1921) construction:



LAPL -- http://jpg1.lapl.org/00081/00081852.jpg


As pointed out here http://silentlocations.wordpress.com...-keatons-cops/ you can briefly see Washington Park I in Buster Keaton's Neighbors, released in December 1920. In the
screen cap below, we see what is likely the "middle or main part of the grandstand" referred to in the last paragraph of the main section of the Feb 2 1921 article above, which looks
a lot like the same area of the park in the 1924 photo:



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Old Posted Jan 31, 2014, 1:49 AM
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Chutes Park / Washington Park

So, what do we have in this area now?

A giant chair, compliments of the L.A. Furniture Mart


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I never noticed this makeshift 'barrier/brace' along the Union Station wall before. Anyone know why it's there-
http://www.pacificelectric.org/wp-co.../FINN00196.jpg





Does not appear to look like a brace or barrier. Nor does it/they appear to be rubberized abutments often found at loading docks. They strike me as being more like boxes on the ground. Not all symmetrical. Certainly not traditional benches.


Missing cases of Brew 102?

Makeshift group seating? (for anticipated RR calamity?)


http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...05#post5994505


http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=6093


New use for abandoned zanja?
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2014, 2:13 AM
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http://www.pacificelectric.org/wp-co.../FINN00196.jpg

Does not appear to look like a brace or barrier. Nor does it/they appear to be rubberized abutments often found at loading docks. They strike me as being more like boxes on the ground. Not all symmetrical. Certainly not traditional benches.

Missing cases of Brew 102?
Bee Hives?
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So, what do we have in this area now?

A giant chair, compliments of the L.A. Furniture Mart


Google Maps


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Big seating abounds.

Pacific Design Center
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2014, 3:01 AM
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Here's a great graphic from 1934.





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Does not appear to look like a brace or barrier. Nor does it/they appear to be rubberized abutments often found at loading docks. They strike me as being more like boxes on the ground. Not all symmetrical. Certainly not traditional benches.

They look like they could be cross ties. Maybe they stored them there for future street car track repair.
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Hi all! These are from a Life article June 20, 1960. the photographer was Ralph Crane. Great stuff!










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Appropriately enough, noirishly screaming headlines at the death of N.T.G.:


Los Angeles Times April 22, 1957
His Body was claimed by yvonne De Carlo of Munster fame
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LAPL seems to have given their City Directory resource a makeover. Normally I don't like change, and a few sites I use have taken several backward steps in so-called upgrades in the past year or so, but my first impressions of this upgrade are positive. Check out the new look at:

http://rescarta.lapl.org/ResCarta-We...cWebBrowse.jsp

I think they've added a few earlier directories, but still nothing between 1942 and 1956.
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I wouldn't have placed it if you hadn't enlarged the photograph.
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I've never heard of this college before.

The seller says this is the administration building at Los Angeles Pacific College.
ebay

Located in Hermon. I've never heard of Hermon either.

Here's Hermon


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermon,_Los_Angeles
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Los Angeles Pacific College was founded in 1903 according to Wikipedia and then later merged to become Azusa Pacific College ( located obviously in Azusa)
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Thanks for the great follow-up about Chutes Park/Washington Park, Flyingwedge.

Before we leave St. Vincent's College too far behind, here are three views presumably taken from its tower. They show how downtown Los Angeles looked from just north of Washington Boulevard in 1905. The captions are taken directly from the USC site.

"Panoramic view of downtown Los Angeles from St. Vincent's College, looking northwest showing Washington Street and Grand Avenue, ca.1905"


USC Digital Library

"Panoramic view of downtown Los Angeles from St. Vincent's College at Washington Street and Grand Street, ca.1905"


USC Digital Library

"Panoramic view of downtown Los Angeles including St. Vincent's College, ca.1905"


USC Digital Library

I was trying to work out the identity of the larger building in the center of the last picture. Here's an enlargement:


Detail of picture above.

Looking at the 1910 Baist map, I think it's the 16th Street Public School. Does anyone have better pictures of the school or the neighboring Engine House No. 10 on Hill (I thought it said No. 11 until I zoomed in)?


www.historicmapworks.com

The school is named in the caption of this picture. The full caption says "Chutes Park (later Horsley Park) looking north, showing the Sixteenth Street School, ca.1905". The school can be seen in the background, just to the left of the flag. NB. I've lightened USC's picture a fair bit.


USC Digital Library

Looking at the ball park side, it looks like there might have been a game on. As well as the "Shooting Gallery" and "Hall of Illusions" visible below, other attractions/facilities in the picture above include a "Bowling Alley", "Cigars & Tobaccos" and a "Restaurant".


Detail of picture above.
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I've never heard of this college before.

The seller says this is the administration building at Los Angeles Pacific College.
ebay

Located in Hermon. I've never heard of Hermon either.

Here's Hermon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermon,_Los_Angeles
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The college was listed at 5732 Ebey Street in the 1936 CD; the shape of a structure corresponding to the building in the picture is on the 1921 Baist map with its original name, the Los Angeles Free Methodist Seminary. While it's gone now, other school buildings at a similar angle are there today:


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From today's L.A. Times:


L.A. Times


Hill Street tunnels in the fog
Posted By: Scott Harrison
Posted On: 12:14 a.m. | January 31, 2014
Oct. 11, 1954: Hill Street tunnels seen from Temple Street on a fogbound night. The tunnels connected Temple with 1st Street.

The next morning the Los Angeles Times reported:

Thick fog blanketed Southland coastal areas yesterday from Point Conception to San Diego and held visibility in Los Angeles to less than a mile most of the day…

Traffic moved at a fogbound snail’s pace early yesterday and a score of minor accidents snarled traffic movement on freeways and major thoroughfares…

The fog was accompanied in many areas of the Los Angeles basin with eye-stinging smog. So bad was the smog in the foothill areas that Pasadena Mayor Clarence A. Winder suggested that citizens march in a mass demonstration to the Board of Supervisors to demand action in the fight to control smog…

This photo, by former staff photographer Howard Maxwell, was published on Page 1 of the Oct. 12, 1954 Los Angeles Times.

Within two months, construction work to enlarge the Los Angeles Civic Center began. By June, 1955, the two Hill Street tunnels were gone.
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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire:
Appropriately enough, noirishly screaming headlines at the death of N.T.G.:




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His Body was claimed by Yvonne De Carlo of Munster fame

...and, that great film noir Criss Cross (1949):


Criss Cross (1949) - Universal International
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