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Old Posted Oct 1, 2021, 2:27 AM
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Skyscrapers, is it time to stop building them?

https://www.theguardian.com/artandde...tall-buildings

Wasteful? Damaging? What are your thoughts? Let's discuss.
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Old Posted Oct 1, 2021, 2:38 AM
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Chicago offers up a very hard "FUCK NO!!!"

along with NYC, we taught the whole damn planet how to do this shit.

Like it or lump it, the sky is the limit, silly earthlings!
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Old Posted Oct 1, 2021, 2:45 AM
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One should expect such nonsense articles like this from The Guardian.
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Old Posted Oct 1, 2021, 2:47 AM
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Chicago utters a very hard "FUCK NO!!!"

along with NYC, we taught the whole damn planet how to do this shit.

Like it or lump it, the sky is the limit, silly earthlings!
Lol! Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Chicago the birth place of the skyscraper?
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One should expect such nonsense articles like this from The Guardian.
Lol, I didn't know. I thought it'd be a great conversation piece. Are they known for not so great journalism?
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Old Posted Oct 1, 2021, 3:41 AM
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wasn't Chicago the birth place of the skyscraper?
It's a clever little catch phrase that the local CTB likes to promote, but no one city can take full credit for birthing the skyscraper building type into existence. It was a very evolutionary process.

However, any honest reading of architectural history would certainly place the lion's share of the structural, functional, & aesthetic innovations that gave birth to the skyscraper as springing forth from two main cities: NYC & Chicago.

Together, they are the planet's two greatest skyscraper museums.

And if anyone disagrees with that, they are straight-up wrong.
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One should expect such nonsense articles like this from The Guardian.
But it's also London, which has its fair share of a lot of really bad unnecessary dick-measuring skyscrapers marring their skies.
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But it's also London, which has its fair share of a lot of really bad unnecessary dick-measuring skyscrapers marring their skies.
Unnecessary to who? And when hasn't building tall been a dick measuring contest? Before skyscrapers, it was cathedrals outdoing one another.
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Old Posted Oct 1, 2021, 7:32 AM
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Suburbs = bad! We need density! The planet is dying!

Skyscrapers = bad! We need less density! The planet is dying!

What is wrong with people today?
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Old Posted Oct 1, 2021, 8:41 AM
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Oh look, clickbait.
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Well, in Montreal, it has become a “values” type of political issue in the debate between the present mayor Valérie Plante and her main opponent, former mayor Denis Coderre. The Coderre wants to break the height limit downtown whereas Plante wants to keep a low profile but favor density.
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Give me skyscrapers or give me death lol
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I think hack mainstream media writers need to get better clickbait material.
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Give me dense urban fabric (not necessarily tall buildings) over skyscrapers. Give me Brooklyn over Dubai. Give me the Left

I love skyscrapers, but what I love most is wandering these dense neighborhoods, full of eclecticism and dynamism. Sure beats sterile, windswept towers in a park
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https://www.theguardian.com/artandde...tall-buildings

Wasteful? Damaging? What are your thoughts? Let's discuss.
Suburbs, should we stop building them since they are so wasteful? Almost everything in our society is wasteful.
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Old Posted Oct 1, 2021, 2:59 PM
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Some cities should probably stop. Maybe a lot of cities. Skyscrapers do make sense in certain places, though.
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*Looks out my hotel window at the Hudson Yards tower cranes*

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It seems natural that once we had the technological means to do so (steel frame construction, elevators, etc.), that skyscrapers would have been built.

Beyond dick bragging, skyscrapers maximize land value over a midrise building and they also provide the economies of scale of a much larger building on a relatively compact footprint. They permit thousands of people, and therefore - in theory - a greater diversity of businesses to colocate with one another, and this might have an impact on anything from a reduced cost in doing business to greater innovation. They're very effective for commuting by public transit; just think of how many jobs are within a 5 minute walk of a subway station in a skyscraper district compared to a midrise office district. No surprise that the Loop and Lower Manhattan near the foot of the Brooklyn Bridge were the first places to see skyscrapers built.
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Old Posted Oct 1, 2021, 3:30 PM
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Lol, I didn't know. I thought it'd be a great conversation piece. Are they known for not so great journalism?
No, The Guardian is quality journalism. And people that are calling this click bait apparently don’t know what the term “click bait” means.

You just made the mistake of posting this on a forum for people that are obsessed with skyscrapers is all.
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Old Posted Oct 1, 2021, 3:33 PM
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That researcher makes some valid points but I’ll still take skyscrapers over suburban sprawl. Gimme ‘scrapers!
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