Will the US see an uptick in European/Caucasian Immigration?

[Camelback]

Originally Posted by Crawford

Eastpointe is a declining, high-crime near-slum, drained by white flight. It's basically an extension of Northeast Detroit, which is the worst part of Detroit. Immigrants aren't headed to Eastpointe.

And immigrants aren't gonna go to the Deep South, Appalachia, rural areas, etc. They came here to work and start businesses. The fact that you can buy a home in rural West Virginia (or rural Sicily for that matter) for $1 is irrelevant.

I'm sure you're right about Detroit, that was a 2 minute Zillow filter search in Michigan. However, that doesn't mean America doesn't have affordable places for immigrants to settle in. Also, that was Zillow, there are even cheaper options for immigrants to find homes, shared rooms on Craigslist. They could probably find a room for a couple hundred bucks in many cities across America.

Also, re-read my post. I was specifically talking about refugee immigrants (almost always poor). Not a highly educated person from London or Paris.

Large refugee immigrant communities don't pop up in wealthy areas, they settled in slums, poor areas or the most affordable parts of town and then build it up from there.

[Stan31]

it would if the green card quotas were increased

[202_Cyclist]

I have been in suburban New York for the past year. Anecdotally, there are a surprisingly large number of European immigrants in the area, including people from the Balkans and Eastern Europe.

[Stan31]

Originally Posted by 202_Cyclist

I have been in suburban New York for the past year. Anecdotally, there are a surprisingly large number of European immigrants in the area, including people from the Balkans and Eastern Europe.

I even saw a Ukrainian one in long island city today

[Docere]

My numbers were off for the number of immigrants from the former Yugoslavia. 61,000 in the Toronto-Hamilton area, by far the largest in NA.

[Stan31]

Has anyone compiled a total number of European immigrants in the last 10-20 years?

[Crawford]

At least in the U.S., it has to be relatively small numbers. The creation of the EU open trans-national work permits, and the addition of Eastern European countries into the EU, greatly reduced demand for immigration outside of Europe.

Though maybe Canada still has substantial intra-Commonwealth immigration?

As an aside, we've used a handyman who is a German national with Albanian birth/background, and in the U.S. undocumented, and arrived in the last decade. I'm really curious what motivated him to be off the books in North America, assuming he really has German citizenship.

[RST500]

Ironically the MAGA Right is so against the diversity lotto but the White share is actually higher than for overall immigration.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divers...isa#Statistics

[RST500]

Originally Posted by Stan31

Has anyone compiled a total number of European immigrants in the last 10-20 years?

3,915,557 from Europe applied for the diversity lotto this year but only 1.15% were accepted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divers...isa#Statistics

[Stan31]

Originally Posted by Crawford

At least in the U.S., it has to be relatively small numbers. The creation of the EU open trans-national work permits, and the addition of Eastern European countries into the EU, greatly reduced demand for immigration outside of Europe.

Though maybe Canada still has substantial intra-Commonwealth immigration?

As an aside, we've used a handyman who is a German national with Albanian birth/background, and in the U.S. undocumented, and arrived in the last decade. I'm really curious what motivated him to be off the books in North America, assuming he really has German citizenship.

There are still probably well over 60 million people outside of the EU in Europe and that's excluding Russia.

[Stan31]

Originally Posted by RST500

3,915,557 from Europe applied for the diversity lotto this year but only 1.15% were accepted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divers...isa#Statistics

So it's a matter of choosing not to admit Europeans, not a lack of will on behalf of the Europeans.

[10023]

I think this depends mostly on US government policy.

The situation has changed since this thread was created. Between Brexit (which means a visa application is required to move to London as well) and Covid (where the US is open, and was mostly open during the pandemic while Europe had and continues to have repeated lockdowns), there would be a lot of interest among young Europeans.

[RST500]

"These South African farmworkers were hired under the H-2A visa program, that enable farmers to hire foreign workers for up to 10 months at wages that are set by the Labor Department. There is an increasing demand for niche high-skilled labor in the agricultural sector. Also the overall demand for farm labor has increased due to immigration from Mexico declining, with many Mexican immigrant farmworkers abandoning farm work in favor of construction. South Africa, which has an unemployment rate exceeding 30%, is now second only to Mexico, in H-2A visa holders and the NYT article reports that the number of South African visa holders has “soared 441 percent between 2011 and 2020.”

https://robertstark.substack.com/p/x...ia-is-woke-now

[RST500]

Originally Posted by bnk

Any explanation why across the board Asian immigration, and non Asian, percentage declined in 2020?


I'm curious if the Ukraine and Russia has issues if some Ukrainians will seek asylum in the USA? Anyone have a perdition on that if it happens?

What are South African's numbers if anyone has any?

"South Africa, which has an unemployment rate exceeding 30%, is now second only to Mexico, in H-2A visa holders and the NYT article reports that the number of South African visa holders has “soared 441 percent between 2011 and 2020.”

https://robertstark.substack.com/p/x...ia-is-woke-now



Ukrainians are now one of the top groups resettled as refugees in the U.S. under Trump administration:


"The 4,451 Ukrainians who arrived in the United States during fiscal 2019 made up 15 percent of the 30,000 total refugees who resettled in the country. In 2016, Ukrainians accounted for just 3 percent."


https://www.washingtonpost.com/immig...92f_story.html