TCH east of Nipigon (La route transcanadienne à l'est de Nipigon)

[saffronleaf]

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

Does any such party exist in the present time? Also how is it gonna get vote in Toronto then??

not sure but I don't think it needs to win the province overall, just the Northern Ontario seats.

[Dengler Avenue]

By the way, whenever you guys have the time, go on twitter (you don't need to register for an account to view contents) and check out OPPCommunicationsNER and OPPCommunicationsNWR. See for yourselves how many weather- and accident- related closures there have been on both trans-Canada routes.

[F. Lionel]

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

By the way, whenever you guys have the time, go on twitter (you don't need to register for an account to view contents) and check out OPPCommunicationsNER and OPPCommunicationsNWR. See for yourselves how many weather- and accident- related closures there have been on both trans-Canada routes.

I've passed so many transports in the ditch, blocking the highway, or sitting in the median this year alone that I subscribe to their NWR twitter feed because I spend so much time on 11 & 17. That feed alone is a great argument for choosing the route and just getting on with the twinning already!

[Dengler Avenue]

Originally Posted by F. Lionel

I've passed so many transports in the ditch, blocking the highway, or sitting in the median this year alone that I subscribe to their NWR twitter feed because I spend so much time on 11 & 17. That feed alone is a great argument for choosing the route and just getting on with the twinning already!

Back in summer 2017, when I had so much free time on hand, if I had known how bad things have been, I really would have spent some time compiling closure data...

A very hypothetical question for y'all though: If, out of the blue, MTO starts a go-fund-me compaign asking people to chip in to build the highway, will you guys do it? LoL.

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

Back in summer 2017, when I had so much free time on hand, if I had known how bad things have been, I really would have spent some time compiling closure data...

A very hypothetical question for y'all though: If, out of the blue, MTO starts a go-fund-me compaign asking people to chip in to build the highway, will you guys do it? LoL.

They would need $9 BILLION

[Dengler Avenue]

Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

They would need $9 BILLION

GG... Why is Canada always at the short end of the stick when it comes to infrastructure...

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

GG... Why is Canada always at the short end of the stick when it comes to infrastructure...

Second largest country,, but less population than New York City.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

Second largest country,, but less population than New York City.

Well, we do have a bit more population than New York City.

Less than California though.

[Dengler Avenue]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Well, we do have a bit more population than New York City.

Less than California though.

Compared to our neighbour in the south, we’re always behind.

[Loco101]

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

Compared to our neighbour in the south, we’re always behind.

Ontario doesn't get much federal funding for highways unlike the states and some provinces. Ontario (the MTO) does an amazing job considering the size of the province and that it does things on its own.

Ontario is interesting because it has the busiest highway in North America (Hwy 401) and some others that are very busy yet it has a number of communities in the far-North that are not connected by road, are isolated and fly-in only. And the only major population that its Trans-Canada highways go through is Ottawa.

[Dengler Avenue]

Originally Posted by Loco101

Ontario doesn't get much federal funding for highways unlike the states and some provinces. Ontario (the MTO) does an amazing job considering the size of the province and that it does things on its own.

Ontario is interesting because it has the busiest highway in North America (Hwy 401) and some others that are very busy yet it has a number of communities in the far-North that are not connected by road, are isolated and fly-in only. And the only major population that its Trans-Canada highways go through is Ottawa.

I know right...
BC’s finally got federal money for 4 km of TCH around Kicking Horse Canyon.
The feds twinned TCH through Banff National Park but did little in Mount Revelstoke and the other one in BC.
For SK and MB, I think the feds footed quite a bit to help them twin TCH too.
For Québec, the feds helped in twinning Rte 175.
I don’t know about NB and NS.

Then Ontario, feds only contributed $83M for twinning between T Bay and Nipigon while having no money for extending 417. I heard that Upper Ottawa Valley is politically blue but I’m surprised that even Harper did nothing...

I suspect that politics is at play. In that case, I do hope that more electoral districts are created in the north. :p

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

I know right...
BC’s finally got federal money for 4 km of TCH around Kicking Horse Canyon.
The feds twinned TCH through Banff National Park but did little in Mount Revelstoke and the other one in BC.
For SK and MB, I think the feds footed quite a bit to help them twin TCH too.
For Québec, the feds helped in twinning Rte 175.
I don’t know about NB and NS.

Then Ontario, feds only contributed $83M for twinning between T Bay and Nipigon while having no money for extending 417. I heard that Upper Ottawa Valley is politically blue but I’m surprised that even Harper did nothing...

I suspect that politics is at play. In that case, I do hope that more electoral districts are created in the north. :p

I am impressed that they gave any money to Ontario.

Since Banff is a national park, and therefore under federal jurisdiction. That makes sense they spent thee money there.

[Dengler Avenue]

Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

I am impressed that they gave any money to Ontario.

Since Banff is a national park, and therefore under federal jurisdiction. That makes sense they spent thee money there.

For the first sentence, do you think politics was at play (specifically, vote-buying)?

For the second sentence, that I understand, but what about Mt Revelstoke and glacier national parks?? Also more has to be done within Yoho too.

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

For the first sentence, do you think politics was at play (specifically, vote-buying)?

For the second sentence, that I understand, but what about Mt Revelstoke and glacier national parks?? Also more has to be done within Yoho too.

Every time any project is done it is about vote buying.

As far as the other NPs, I don't know.

[craigbear]

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

Does any such party exist in the present time?

http://northernontarioparty.org/

[Dengler Avenue]

Originally Posted by craigbear

http://northernontarioparty.org/

IMO it might be too late for the party to do anything right now though, with so little time toward provincial election.

[Dengler Avenue]

Originally Posted by saffronleaf

not sure but I don't think it needs to win the province overall, just the Northern Ontario seats.

For practical purposes, it should win seats in Renfrew too.

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by craigbear

http://northernontarioparty.org/

If you want discuss about them... You don't want me to. I had some horrible experience with them.

Do you want me to start?

[swimmer_spe]

http://www.nugget.ca/2018/01/14/106m...ntil-late-2018

Repairs to a bridge in northwestern Ontario will take nearly three years and delays have pushed the total cost well over the initial $8 million to $12 million estimate

[Dengler Avenue]

Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

Every time any project is done it is about vote buying.

As far as the other NPs, I don't know.

That means the federal liberals will fund twinning 17 from Manitoba to Kenora 6 months before the federal election then.