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Real Estate Highlights: Avalon’s Forthcoming 96th Street Tower Dubbed “Frightening”
March 2, 2017
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DNAinfo reports that some folks in East Harlem think the proposed Avalon tower for East 96th Street is too big. Worse yet, the units slated to be “affordable” are far from it. See an earlier story we did with some new images here. Check out the many comments here. But in a nutshell, here are the two sides of the discussion:

“Too high, too dense, they keep taking away our sun with these huge skystreets . Will all these people living in this 68 story building fit on the narrow streets of East Harlem…” - jotheodorou

“[Right] so not that much different than the rest of the upper east side. But I do think a few more high rises would help even more with the tax base. And if it's nicely planned out including schools, what's the issue? I don't think the height of the building is frightening. It's just another set of floors. I'd rather go up than sprawl out.” -christine-ford


More REAL ESTATE HIGHLIGHTS in the post here.
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“Too high, too dense, they keep taking away our sun with these huge skystreets . Will all these people living in this 68 story building fit on the narrow streets of East Harlem…” - jotheodorou
The only thing that will take the sun away is the sun itself. In 4 billion years, it will explode. These developers are not taking the sun away! Chemistry and Physics are responsible.

If they want some sun in a bottle, drink some capri sun.
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Community board OKs AvalonBay’s East Harlem rental project

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Manhattan Community Board 11 approved AvalonBay Communities’ proposed 1,100-unit rental tower in East Harlem this week.

The real estate investment trust wants to build a 68-story mixed use development at 321 East 96th Street. The 1.3 million-square-foot development will also house three schools. The developer is partnering with the city on the project, which will set aside 30 percent of its apartments for affordable housing.

Some residents said that, while they welcomed building new schools, they are concerned about the size of the development and that it’s not affordable for locals, according to the publication. Ten percent of the affordable housing units will be available to households earning 40 percent of the area median income or below. The rest will be set aside for people making 60 percent of AMI, according to Politico.


The vice chair of the community board’s housing committee Xavier Santiago abstained from voting, saying he has asked the developer to set aside 50 percent of the units for affordable housing.

The board wants half of the units to be affordable, for there to be senior housing included and for the height to be reduced. Ultimately, the project’s future is in the hands of City Council Speaker Melissa Mark-Viverito, as she represents the area.

“By the time it comes to me, a lot of time these projects have shifted based on the feedback from the community … all of which I take into account and deliberate whether I should support it.” Mark-Viverito told Politico.

The proposal still needs to clear several hurdles, including City Council approval, before it can move ahead.
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2) https://www.politicopro.com/states/n...e-tower-110581
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City Planning Holds Hearing on Skyscraper East Harlem Development

05/16/2017
By: Jonathon Sizemore


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The proposed rezoning would facilitate the construction of two new buildings for three high schools, up to 1,200 new apartments, over 300 affordable units, 1.5 acres of playground, and up to 25,000 square feet of new retail space.

On May 10, 2017, the City Planning Commission held a public hearing on an application for multiple land use actions to facilitate the development of a replacement facility for an on-site existing school, a new facility for the relocation of two existing local public high schools, a mixed-use building, and the relocation and rehabilitation of an existing jointly-operated playground. The applicants, the New York City Educational Construction Fund and AvalonBay Communities, proposed the redevelopment of a city block bounded by First Avenue to the east, East 96th Street on the south, Second Avenue to the west, and East 97th Street to the north in Manhattan’s East Harlem neighborhood.

Currently the western portion of the project site is occupied by the Marx Brothers Playground, a 1.49 acre playground with playground equipment, bathroom facilities and a turf field for soccer and softball. The eastern portion of the site contains COOP Tech, a citywide vocational program. The school operates in a four-story, 103,498 square foot building.

The proposed project would create a 63-story building containing 1,175,000 square feet on the western portion of the block, facing Second Avenue. The western building would contain over one million square feet of residential use, about 25,000 square feet of commercial use and about 135,000 square feet of public school use for COOP Tech. Thirty percent of the residential units would be marked as affordable permanently under the Mandatory Inclusionary Housing law. An eight-story building containing 135,000 square feet would be constructed on the eastern portion of the block. The eastern building would hold two additional public high that would be relocated from nearby locations. The Marx Brothers Playground would be shifted to the center of the block between the two new buildings.

At the May 10th hearing, Jennifer Maldonado, Executive Director of ECF presented the project to the Commission. According to Maldonado, ECF had been working with Manhattan Community Board 11 and Borough President Gale Brewer, and had received their conditional approval. As part of those negotiations, the taller structure would be reduced from 68 stories to 63 stories. Maldonaldo did warn that reducing the project any further would make it unlikely ECF could recoup the bonds for the project. The bonds would total over $300 million to fund the school portions of the project.

Martin Piazzola, Senior Vice President of Development at AvalonBay Communities, spoke to the constraints of the development. Specifically, the western building would need to be constructed first to allow for one transition for Coop Tech from the eastern portion of the block to the new western building. Piazzola also explained that the smaller floor plates of the buildings was required because by law the park was required to remain the same size and configuration.

Commissioner Cheryl Cohen Effron questioned the height of the taller building, noting that the closest tall buildings were 35 stories. A representative for Perkins Eastman Architects also explained the logic behind the proposed design configuration. Specifically, that elevators, plumbing, fire staircases, a lobby, loading dock and electrical conduits would force the school to require more floors and limit auditorium and multipurpose room sizes because of columns. And residential units above the high schools would be subject to higher seismic response standards, the same as the public schools are subject to.


Commissioner Anna Hayes Levin wondered if ECF was asking the developer to force too many public goods into the development, still criticizing the height of the building being over 700 feet tall. Maldonado agreed that it was a large project but remarked that ECF has an opportunity to really build schools and ECF can only do so through bonds and no capital spent by the city.

A representative from Borough President Brewer’s office spoke in favor of the project. The representative did express ongoing concerns about school congestion and neighborhood character impact. The Borough President, however, was still in favor of the project because of the overall positive impact.

Andrea Shapiro-Davis, a local resident, testified against the project. She remarked that the western building would be the tallest than any building in the Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island. She further noted that the park would be in perpetual shadow, comparing playing into the park as if in an “elevator shaft.” Shapiro-Davis also noted that over 70 percent of the apartments would be market rate and unaffordable to the residents of East Harlem. She criticized an easement that would be granted on the parkland and the portion’s alienation to ECF, thereby reducing park size.

A resident testified against the project, criticizing the additional public congestion which would be created with 5,000 new residents in the 63-story tower. Another resident described the building as “manifestly inappropriate,” and wondered why the Commission would disregard reasonable zoning regulations. Another resident discussed the safety of the children being placed in peril by adding three schools onto an already traffic congested street.

The president of New York City Park Advocates testified that for more than 60 years children have enjoyed a sunny play area in the playground because it was located on the corner lot. He remarked that the proposal would eliminate that use. Additionally, he argued that creating development rights out of a public park was a misuse of the public use doctrine. He noted that the park has been completely open to the public and that the change would limit public use of the playground to after school hours.

Caroline Harris, of GolmanHarris LLC, working with Carnegie Hill Neighbors, also testified in opposition. As a zoning attorney, she described the plan to transfer the park and the rest of the block to ECF as a circumvention of basic zoning principles, specifically the definition of a zoning lot and that parks do not have development rights. Harris argued that the Draft Environmental Impact Statement and project should not be approved with all the unmitigated impacts listed. She highlighted the already existing traffic congestion which will only increase. She also noted that the any decongestion impact the Second Avenue subway had would be washed away.

Commissioner Levin asked Harris to expand on her park land use argument. Harris explained that the park was a boundary of the zoning lot and not part of the zoning lot, and does not generate any development rights. Harris stated that she believed that by transferring the park land to ECF, the park was losing its status as a park thereby generating development rights which would then be harvested for the tower. The park would then be conveyed to the Department of Parks again.
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As part of those negotiations, the taller structure would be reduced from 68 stories to 63 stories. Maldonaldo did warn that reducing the project any further would make it unlikely ECF could recoup the bonds for the project.
Even if it happens, it's still not a loss. Public review process sucks.

Still the same old NIMBY arguments.
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Even if it happens, it's still not a loss. Public review process sucks.

Still the same old NIMBY arguments.
Yea I agree, it's always nice to see a building of this height where there aren't many in the city. But 5 stories is hardly a difference, not sure why they care...
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even though its a real tower this time, i wish avalon would just go away. their product is cheap and junky. architecture by the numbers. people boxes. post collegiate dorm rooms. yadda.
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AvalonBay's architecture does usually suck, but thats usually the fault of the most powerful person in charge, not necessarily the culture of the entire company.
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City Council committee OKs AvalonBay’s 673-foot East Harlem tower
Under terms of the deal, a third of the roughly 1000 apartments will be affordable


August 10, 2017


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AvalonBay Communities can move forward with the 60-story tower it planned for East Harlem after a City Council Committee approved the project on Thursday. The approved development will allow Mayor Bill de Blasio to add more than 300 of the tower’s approximately 1,000 apartments to his affordable housing tally.

City Council Speaker Melissa Mark-Viverito also supported the project, saying Thursday that “the public benefits helped mitigate concerns” from area residents about the building’s proposed colossal height.

Marina Ortiz, founder of the East Harlem Preservation group, previously called the plans “frightening” and criticized the affordability restrictions, which range between 40 and 60 percent of the area median income, as inadequate for the community.

AvalonBay’s tower will fill up an entire block between 96th and 97th streets between First and Second Avenue. Plans include a public park and two new school buildings. The city’s Educational Construction Fund is a partner on the project, and an existing playground will be relocated to make way for the high-rise.

The developers qualified for the rezoning in exchange for affordable apartments, under a de Blasio-championed policy called Mandatory Inclusionary Housing. But neighborhood groups have resisted many of these projects and a handful have been scrapped altogether. Last year, Queens councilman Jimmy Van Bramer succeeded in stamping out plans for an entirely affordable project proposed by Phipps Houses in Sunnyside.

And in East New York, which was rezoned last year, no private developer has attempted a project that requires a rezoning.
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So they chopped off 8 stories? So life now in that community will be better because the building is 8 stories shorter?
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Hopefully the height is still the same...
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Is 760 feet the same as 673 feet?
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Nevertheless massive for the area. The height might be reduced a tab bit (nothing major) but the bulk remains which is the defining attribute of this tower.

Compared to its surroundings (older rendering, but imagine it a few floors shorter)



A 1000 apartments is a big thing!
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The stone treatment on the facade and overall massing of the building fits in well with the area.
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Drove through West and East Harlem earlier in the day, and the gentrification train is well and running. Almost doesn't feel like Harlem. This will only accelerate btw. I kinda see East Harlem becoming a continuation of the UES. I'd imagine in the years to come, many more towers will rise, and the average height will see an increase.
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The Cuomo/de Blasio feud now threatens our skyscrapers...


http://nypost.com/2017/10/24/cuomo-c...ayground-plan/

Cuomo calls for investigation on de Blasio’s playground plan


By Rich Calder and Kirstan
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Governor Cuomo on Monday night threw a monkey wrench into Mayor de Blasio’s controversial plan to relocate an East Harlem children’s playground to accommodate a $1 billion high-rise development project.

He ordered a state investigation to first determine whether the site is actually parkland before the city can proceed.


Cuomo signed into law legislation that initially called for discontinuing the use of the Marx Brothers Playground on Second Avenue and East 96th as parkland, so it could accommodate a high-rise housing project that would also bring at least two new public schools.

However, in an 11th-hour approval message, he noted there’s been longtime confusion as to whether the site is actually parkland or just a mere playground under the jurisdiction of the city’s Department of Education.

“These unusual facts warrant a unique solution,” he wrote.

He amended the legislation so that before the city can shut the playground down, the state Parks Department must first “investigate all of the property’s historical records, uses, and any other factor relevant” to 1.5-acre playground’s designation.

Cuomo said that while parkland “should not provide zoning bonuses to private industry,” playgrounds “are a different classification and may be eligible for zoning incentives, and no state approval of alienation is necessary.”

Park advocates and community activists contend the project – a partnership of the mayoral-controlled NYC Educational Construction Fund and developer Avalon Bay –would set a bad precedent for City Hall circumventing its owns zoning laws to assist powerful developers.

“We are grateful that the governor has raised serious questions regarding the legality of the playground being used by a private real estate developer,” said Geoffrey Croft of the government watchdog group NYC Park Advocates.

He said he believes the state will ultimately determine the site is parkland protected by law.

State Sen. Jose Serrano (D-Bronx) and Assemblyman Michael Benedetto (D-Bronx) had drafted the original legislation at the request de Blasio and the City Council.

The project calls for a 1,100-unit, mixed-income residential tower complex than would rise more than 720 feet high and have space at least two new schools.

Although Marx Brothers Playground would be lost, a replacement playground would be built in another part of the square-block development that would include Manhattan’s largest tower north of 60th Street.

Adding to the drama, Avalon Bay has spent more than $467,000 lobbying the city since de Blasio took office in 2014, records shows. This includes $185,247 paid to mega-lobbyist James Capalino, the mayor’s longtime pal and political fundraiser, to steer the project through the system.
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What a colossal a-hole.

The last day he is governor should be a holiday.
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He ordered a state investigation to first determine whether the site is actually parkland before the city can proceed.
Tax dollars at waste.

Why things are expensive, because of stupid crap like this. All their studies (speaking in general here) that are all expensive, take way too much time, and give a reason for some people to exist in the 1st place. To justify there 9-5 jobs where incompetent people rarely get fired due to it being a "state" job.

Bureaucracy is a giant c-block to the progress of the city. Imagine how much better it could be, how much cheaper it could be, and how much more COULD of been done if we just cut the regulatory bs, shorten it, and make the whole process easier.
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