Kellogg Plant redevelopment - Page 2

ssiguy · #21 Posted **Jan 16, 2021, 3:09 AM**

That's actually pretty exciting stuff.

Personally I would never stay at one but it's location at Kelloggs is ideal as it helps reinforce the idea that it is an entertainment destination.

For Old East it's impact will be huge. Not only will it obviously bring tourists {mostly younger} to the area but far more importantly, name recognition. It reinforces the idea that Old East is becoming London's new place to be area. The fat that it go a big development by an internationally well known company will help change the mentalities of many Londoners who still the the area as a no-go zone and spur more development of the area and get more attention from larger companies.

This is a big development physically but the impact will be far more significant psychologically as people begin to change their views about Old East

haljackey · #22 Posted **Jan 16, 2021, 4:20 PM**

I was totally caught off gaurd by this announcement.

To quote Palpatine: "A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one".

I would assume that a Hard Rock Hotel will also include a Hard Rock Cafe?

Who thought an abandoned cereal plant would generate this much economic activity? London has really lucked out vs other cities with all kinds of abandoned industrial sites and warehouses.

MolsonExport · #23 Posted **Jan 17, 2021, 4:58 PM**

I never understood the appeal of Hard Rock cafe. If you've seen one, you've seen 'em all.
Who cares about Madonna's underwear or some guitar once played for 30 minutes by Lenny Davidson (of the DC5)? Not enough to compensate for overpriced, subpar quality cheeseburgers.

jammer139 · #24 Posted **Sep 20, 2021, 8:41 PM**

Any signs of activity with this proposal for a Hard Rock Hotel. Phase 1 is supposed to open in 2022. There doesn't appear to have been any activity since they finished up the new atrium entrance near the NW corner.

https://www.hospitalitynet.org/annou...n-ontario.html

Djeffery · #25 Posted **Sep 20, 2021, 11:00 PM**

Things are progressing. My wife is friends with a few people in management over there. I'm not sure that the first phase of the hotel is going to be the big wow factor that some might be hoping for, but it sounds like when it's all finished, whenever that is, it will be quite something. There is a ton of work going on the south side of the Dundas St wing, which is where phase 1 is going. Then at the east end of that, where they demolished a section of the old building, is where phase 2 is going to be built, as far as I know.

ssiguy · #26 Posted **Sep 21, 2021, 6:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by MolsonExport

I never understood the appeal of Hard Rock cafe. If you've seen one, you've seen 'em all.
Who cares about Madonna's underwear or some guitar once played for 30 minutes by Lenny Davidson (of the DC5)? Not enough to compensate for overpriced, subpar quality cheeseburgers.

I agree, you would never catch me in one of those places but that's not really the point.

This is a large international business and could have set up anywhere in the city but choice Old East. They do a LOT of research when deciding where to locate and they choice Old East because they see it thru it's long term potential.

It is a clear indication that all the money the City has spent on revitalizing the neighbourhood is starting to see real dividends.

Djeffery · #27 Posted **Sep 22, 2021, 12:56 AM**

The city paved Dundas St a few years ago, other than that, they haven't really done much. I think it's more the money the Leach and McLaughlin families have spent on 100 Kellogg that is bringing Hard Rock there.

Another business setting up in there is called Farmia Agritech. They are a "Hydroponic Vertical Farm". No idea how big a space they are taking up, or how many employees, but we delivered a tractor trailer load of equipment to them a few weeks ago. Smarter people than me can probably figure out their business from their website at www.farmia.ca but the owner was very excited to be able to sell food that will be grown in their business in a few months. .

jammer139 · #28 Posted **Jan 8, 2022, 7:03 PM**

Zoning change application for outdoor patios showing the 3rd and 4th floors. Hard Rock Hotel rooms and Carfax office space layouts are shown in detail.

https://london.ca/sites/default/file...ng%20Plans.pdf

Djeffery · #29 Posted **Jan 8, 2022, 9:16 PM**

I think the central part of that application is the event space, which is where the Van Gogh exhibit they have been promoting for the last month will be. I wonder if that event centre is going to get a rocky reception from the city, given how it competes directly with the city-owned facilities like the Western Fair and convention centre. Especially with the (hopefully) eventual relocation of the casino opening up a bunch more space at the fair.

It's pretty impressive the scale of this place when you look at those drawings, and then look at a Google Earth image of the place and realize what a small part of the property those floor plans really show.

jammer139 · #30 Posted **Aug 21, 2022, 8:19 PM**

Apparently the move of the Children's Museum is somewhat delayed until early 2023 now. Also the Hard Rock Hotel renovations has also been delayed.

jammer139 · #31 Posted **Apr 3, 2023, 9:24 PM**

Just checked to see when the move of the Children's Museum was happening and their website now says late 2024. What happened? They originally were targeting end of 2022 but that was delayed by pandemic understandably and planned for spring 2023. Now the delay is for more then another year.

https://www.londonchildrensmuseum.ca/our-future-home

CharlesSaticoy · #32 Posted **Apr 3, 2023, 9:56 PM**

Any updates on Hard Rock Hotel?

Djeffery · #33 Posted **Jun 19, 2023, 10:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by CharlesSaticoy

Any updates on Hard Rock Hotel?

News story on tonight actually with a small update. Basically staffing issues with construction workers and unseen issues with the age of the building. Also know from someone on site, not reported on the news story, was a flood they had earlier in the year when they tapped a well that no one knew existed, not shown on any paperwork or anything. Which isn't a real surprise given the age of the place. Will post a link to the news story when it's posted on the website, if someone else doesn't first.

Djeffery · #34 Posted **Jun 19, 2023, 11:12 PM**

https://london.ctvnews.ca/london-ont...year-1.6447592

jammer139 · #35 Posted **Aug 17, 2023, 10:25 PM**

Feds adding $2M in funding to the relocation of the Childrens Museum at Kelloggs. Still unlikely to open until Fall 2024 which is years behind the original planned reopening.

https://london.ctvnews.ca/london-chi...pace-1.6523294

jammer139 · #36 Posted **Sep 27, 2023, 2:40 AM**

CTV news had a inside peak on the progress of the new museum and they are still $5M behind their fund raising goal for the build. Still looking at opening the end of 2024. They are also still working on the Hard Rock Hotel build.

CBC article on same:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/londo...site-1.6979291

jammer139 · #37 Posted **Dec 12, 2023, 7:31 PM**

First phase of the Hard Rock Hotel set to open Dec 2024 with 164 rooms. Phase 2 has no date as of now but is expect to have 189 rooms.

https://westerngazette.ca/culture/st...6a311f4b6.html

ssiguy · #38 Posted **Dec 13, 2023, 9:49 PM**

Not that I would be caught dead at a Hard Rock BUT it is a good vote of confidence in Old East. They do a LOT of research before they spend this kind of money on a new hotel/complex and that means they see the long-term potential of Old East and the entire fairgrounds area.

Djeffery · #39 Posted **Dec 13, 2023, 11:37 PM**

I'm sure Hard Rock does a lot of due diligence on who they partner with, but it's the 2 local families that own 100 Kellogg that are spending the money on the hotel.

MolsonExport · #40 Posted **Dec 14, 2023, 3:58 PM**

It is interesting, but I have never really understood the appeal of HRC. I don't need to see Madonna's underwear, Taylor Swift's toenail clippers, or Geddy Lee's jean jacket. Overpriced food that really isn't all that good. And will it actually bring tourists to London? Maybe those big spenders from Exeter, Fingal, and Strathroy.

But anyhow, it is a net good for East London. Better than the vampiric casino, in any event.