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Aye, absolutely -- I'm interested to see how CA6 turns out. Belgravia, so we'll see (though, 360 W Erie is lovely, IMO).
Belgravia has stepped it up the last few years. The original CA buildings on Aberdeen are pretty nice and I love CA5 on Washington. Great urban infill, plus they are mostly 3-bed units so they help keep families in the West Loop.

They've also got Triangle Square going up on Elston which is dope, and Renelle turned out really nice.

They kind of hit rock bottom with Via Como, though:
https://belgraviagroup.com/developments/via-como
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Belgravia has stepped it up the last few years. The original CA buildings on Aberdeen are pretty nice and I love CA5 on Washington. Great urban infill, plus they are mostly 3-bed units so they help keep families in the West Loop.

They've also got Triangle Square going up on Elston which is dope, and Renelle turned out really nice.

They kind of hit rock bottom with Via Como, though:
https://belgraviagroup.com/developments/via-como
OK, so I've seen that Via Como and have never known who was behind it! I could never decide if it was a sincere attempt or an ironic statement a la Tigerman or FAT. It's almost so bad it's good.
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Yeah, that's just awful. But it was built in 2001, so....
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Who at Belgravia is making the decision to keep that on their website?
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I don't really mind the façade on the right side of Via Como. Would fit in nicely in Pilsen.

CA6 is stunning. Hope it comes to fruition!
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I don't think that would fit anywhere, even in Pilsen.

I find it very strange whenever a developer pushes a design as being 'inspired by'. To me, that's a red flag that they don't know or care about the end product, it's just about ROI. And that's fine, but they shouldn't push shit out and say it's a diamond.
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Who at Belgravia is making the decision to keep that on their website?
It's not featured on their website anymore, I had to google the Via Como name to get to the project page.

I talked to one of the Belgravia guys once, even they kinda roll their eyes at Via Como nowadays... but I think it was very successful at the time. Not sure why yuppies in the late 90s wanted to live with busy expressways on TWO sides, but who knows... it's a great location otherwise. The Grand Blue Line stop was actually shuttered through the 90s but it reopened around the time that Via Como was built.

This is only a suspicion, but it's possible that the Marchetti family that owned Como Inn had some input on the design. Sometimes projects are structured as a partnership between a skilled developer and a legacy landowner. Or the landowner wants to weigh in on the plans before they agree to sell.

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OK, so I've seen that Via Como and have never known who was behind it! I could never decide if it was a sincere attempt or an ironic statement a la Tigerman or FAT. It's almost so bad it's good.
It's no Piazza D'Italia...
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It's no Piazza D'Italia...
Walking into that when I was first in New Orleans was so bizarre. I still can’t make up my mind about it.
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Google Maps has updated to include 2019 streetview images. Good way to kill some time on a Friday afternoon. West Loop's transformation continues to amaze...
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Walking into that when I was first in New Orleans was so bizarre. I still can’t make up my mind about it.
I dunno if I like it either but Moore certainly put a lot of thought and theory behind it.

I may never appreciate the more exuberant versions of PoMo but they are valuable in their own way as part of history - and PoMo is back in style now. But Via Como is just... ugh.
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Google Maps has updated to include 2019 streetview images. Good way to kill some time on a Friday afternoon. West Loop's transformation continues to amaze...
That update was posted literally earlier this year. Right? Certain cities (like downtown Dallas) already have 2020 images.
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That update was posted literally earlier this year. Right? Certain cities (like downtown Dallas) already have 2020 images.
I use Google aerial 3D maps a lot for work and I can guarantee that there was a big difference between August and October of this year, in terms of how Chicago looked on the website. Earlier this year, the update was through 2018 developments, but the October update now includes built projects through summer/fall of 2019.

I also noticed that Google streetview has been updated through Feb/March 2020 for cities like Dallas, Atlanta and Houston. Cities like Chicago, NYC, Boston are updated through August-November 2019, probably because there are larger CBDs to cover.
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Anybody have thoughts about this? Really neat idea:

https://www.chicagobusiness.com/comm...ear-south-side
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Anybody have thoughts about this? Really neat idea:

https://www.chicagobusiness.com/comm...ear-south-side
Pretty cool idea for the old Kozy spot (bought a bike there!). Esports have been big for a while (and even more so with COVID). DOTA 2's International has like a $40M prize pool. Even here the Chicago Theatre sold out like 4 nights for LOL semi-finals. Other games like CS:GO, COD, Overwatch, Starcraft, and even Fortnite, expand the audience widely. Perhaps they can make money off betting too now that it's legal?

It's all going to be about the execution. I can imagine lots of university students taking advantage, we will see.
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Considering this venue has a Sci-Fi theme, do you guys think Friends of the Park will swoop in and try to kill it, like they did the Lucas Museum? That's the only logical explanation I can deduce for FOTP; that they just hate Sci-Fi.
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Old Posted Nov 25, 2020, 3:54 PM
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As much as FOTP is a severely flawed organization with positions that are antithetical to their supposed mission, I doubt it since this is well far enough away from the lakefront (although, I couldn't tell if you were joking or not).

E-sports is so HUGE, I'm glad there will a dedicated 'arena' for it here in Chicago:




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