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[GaylordWilshire]

620 S Ardmore, between Wilshire and 6th.... Built in 1924 according to the assessor.

The movie... Welcome to LA? (1976)

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I'm looking for some help in identifying this apartment building and the name of this movie.
I took the following screen-grabs over four years ago. I've never posted them because of the lack of information.

The biggest clue I have, is the actor Harvey Keitel.

ethereal_reality

PS--Can I tell you how much I hate the new Google Maps? The option to use the "Classic" version now seems to be gone.

[ethereal_reality]

That's the apartment building all right GW! I was afraid it had been torn down.
I don't think the film was 'Welcome To L.A.' Alan Rudolph films are languid and slow, this Keitel film didn't feel that way at all.

I had the soundtrack to 'Welcome To L.A.' when I was in college.....I played that sucker over and over again.


http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/t...Welcome+To+L.A.

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[ethereal_reality]

I couldn't resist. I had to go and check out the skylight.


google_earth

I'm surprised that one side of the apartment has a peaked roof. It isn't noticeable from the street or in my screengrab.


Here's the skylight again.

mystery Harvey Keitel movie

It's the same dimensions alright, but I didn't realize there would be peaked glass above the leaded glass squares.

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I was also surprised by how beautiful the front entrance is. In the movie, the place was a bit run down.


gsv / detail

[GaylordWilshire]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I don't think the film was 'Welcome To L.A.' Alan Rudolph films are languid and slow, this Keitel film didn't feel that way at all.

Hmmm... 'Mother, Juggs & Speed' was filmed around LA... can't get it to come up on youtube to look for the the Ardmore building though...

[GaylordWilshire]

Walker & Eisen were top-flight architects; 620 S Ardmore was something more than just a builder's ordinary apartment building, not really surprising considering the "uptown" neighborhood.



Times Sept 9, 1923


On Dec 13, 1923, the Times reported on a project of "Screen Scintillator" Ruth Roland...also by Walker & Eisen--could she have also developed 620? This much larger co-op apartment project just south of it at the NE corner of Wilshire & Ardmore was never built--although in June there was a news item saying that excavations would begin soon, it looks like Mr. O'Melveny succeeded in putting a stop to it (see the bottommost article).... (I think some of her Wilshire district real-estate deals have come up on NLA before.)




Times Dec 30, 1923:



Times Jan 4, 1924:




Times Jan 11, 1924

[Beaudry]

Greetings NLAer's,

Thought I'd throw another thing onto the Noirish bulletin board: there's an exhibition about Bunker Hill at LA Public Library Central, using images and objects culled from their vast and stellar collection. As y'all know, the LAPL online images aren't scanned in high-res à la USC or the Huntington, so it's especially nice to see some old favorites in large format.



Click here for more info: http://www.lapl.org/whats-on/exhibits/bunker-hill-rear-view-mirror

There's also a celebration of the official opening on Wednesday, May 13th, at 6:00pm. I didn't find a link to that on the LAPL site but did find a Facebook invite, for those of you so Facebook'd. https://www.facebook.com/events/947727811944468/

At this opening party you can purchase copies of the accompanying book—which I've seen and consider to be the best book yet on the subject, so, you Hill fans, or those of you who fill your shelves with Old LA in general, make certain to pick up this forthcoming slender, but indispensable volume.

[tovangar2]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I don't think the film was 'Welcome To L.A.' Alan Rudolph films are languid and slow, this Keitel film didn't feel that way at all.

City of Industry (1997)

trailer


Orion/IMDB

[ethereal_reality]

That's it tovanger2!!
Whoa, I just noticed it says 1997. I was waaaay off. No wonder I couldn't find it.




Thanks for the back-story on 620 Ardmore Avenue GW.
I had to laugh at the headline 'Screen Scintillator To Build Spacious Hostelry'.

Here's the scintillator herself, Ms. Ruth Roland

https://books.google.com/books?id=W8...0estate&f=true

She also invested here:

"Later she put her fortune to work in real estate, buying a tract of land between Universal City and Hollywood
that she subdivided and sold to her fellow workers in the movie industry."
https://books.google.com/books?id=W8...0estate&f=true

It would be fun to figure out the location of Ms. Roland's early subdivision. It must be somewhere on the east side of Cahuenga Pass.

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If anyone is interested in listening to one of the song from 'Welcome To L.A.' here is the link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZkEImzsOHY

It begins with a way too brief shot of Lauren Hutton.
The song ends around the 2:00 minute mark.
After that, there's a long scene between Keith Carradine and a sickly Geraldine Chaplin
who thinks she's dying of tuberculosis like Greta Garbo in Camille.


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[GaylordWilshire]

A few more grabs from City of Industry... I see that the 1955 building to the right of 620 still stands.... Where's my chainsaw?

[ethereal_reality]

I see a sliver of the peaked roof in your second to last screen-grab GW.


I was surprised that the entire movie 'City of Industry' is on YouTube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMAOPHuzQJo
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[tovangar2]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

The entire movie 'City of Industry' is on YouTube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMAOPHuzQJo
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A person could kill a lot of time finding all the locations in City of Industry.

IAMNOTASTALKER details the Cliff House here

Timothy Hutton, Wade Dominguez and Harvey Keitel even find time to stop by the Ambassador Hotel:

orion

I couldn't find Ruth Roland's development, but she did build the house below for a cousin. It's one of only seven Burbank buildings on the California Register of Historic Resources still in private hands. Her family hung on to it for 87 years, selling last year. The MLS photos are here


www.burbankca.gov


silenceisplatinum

[ethereal_reality]

I think this 'before and after' is pretty amazing.





http://www.viewfromaloft.org/before_and_after_la/

"Figueroa and Temple, then and now. 1939 via Caltrans. Current image via googlemaps."

Notice how the curved bridge has pretty much stayed the same, while everything around it has evolved (or shall I say devolved)

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[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by Martin Pal

'Crosby, Stills & Nash' album cover. 812 Palm Avenue, West Hollywood. (1969)



The small bungalow was originally housing for the railway workers, employed at the Pacific Electric terminus across Santa Monica Blvd.

Ever since Martin_Pal's post, I've been thinking about this trio of small bungalows on Marcia Drive in Silver Lake (or is it Echo Park? I'm not sure)


gsv

I wonder who built them...and for whom?
As you can see, their basic design is identical (the middle one has added a garage....can you imagine how small that one is inside!!)
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[GaylordWilshire]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Thanks for the back-story on 620 Ardmore Avenue GW.
I had to laugh at the headline 'Screen Scintillator To Build Spacious Hostelry'.

Here's the scintillator herself, Ms. Ruth Roland

https://books.google.com/books?id=W8...0estate&f=true

She also invested here:

"Later she put her fortune to work in real estate, buying a tract of land between Universal City and Hollywood
that she subdivided and sold to her fellow workers in the movie industry."
https://books.google.com/books?id=W8...0estate&f=true

It would be fun to figure out the location of Ms. Roland's early subdivision. It must be somewhere on the east side of Cahuenga Pass.

From what I can tell, there was Roland Square and an apparent extension, New Roland Square, to the southeast of the Wilshire/Fairfax intersection; another Roland Square, presumably but not definitely connected to the Scintillator, was, according to this ad from the Times of April 9, 1922, in Glendale:

[ethereal_reality]

Ms. Roland was investing in every direction! Good for her.


I just came across this 1929 photograph on eBay.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1929-AUTO-Cl...item25a53f6b04

A few inches to the left, and we would have been able to read the name of the APTS. (otherwise, there's not much to go on with this mystery location)


here's the information on the reverse

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1929-AUTO-Cl...item25a53f6b04

[ethereal_reality]

This is also very interesting.

Earl Carroll Vanities sign, 1950.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1950...item4ae7a37c9f

Pinky Lee?
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[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

This is also very interesting.

Earl Carroll Vanities sign, 1950.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1950...item4ae7a37c9f

Pinky Lee?
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Pinky Lee was a well known burlesque and comedy act. He went from his days in vaudeville to a children's TV show in the 1950s.
He always claimed that his act was squeaky clean.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinky_Lee

Pee Wee Herman took a lot of his shtick directly from Pinky.

Here he is on TV:
https://youtu.be/OXDO_n_4qw4

[HossC]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I think this 'before and after' is pretty amazing.




http://www.viewfromaloft.org/before_and_after_la/

"Figueroa and Temple, then and now. 1939 via Caltrans. Current image via googlemaps."

Notice how the curved bridge has pretty much stayed the same, while everything around it has evolved (or shall I say devolved)

Nice before and after, e_r. As a reminder, the image below showing the construction of the overpass is from post #801 by sopas ej. I also posted some pictures of the intersection before the overpass, and some recent images, in post #23533.

Originally Posted by sopas ej

1939, construction of the Temple St. overpass

[HossC]

I found this matchbook on eBay a few nights ago.


eBay

The Burl Room on Hollywood Boulevard and Burls Restaurant No 2 on W Pico Boulevard both appear in the 1956 CD (below). The 1960 CD has The Burl Room and Burls Restaurant on Hollywood Boulevard (I couldn't see the W Pico location, but the later CDs don't seem to list that area). Burls Restaurant continues to appear at 4483 Hollywood Boulevard throughout the 1960s, but is listed as Burls Coffee Shop in 1973. The 1987 CD lists the Chinese Garden Cafe at 4483 Hollywood Boulevard.


LAPL

Despite the Hollywood Boulevard restaurant existing for at least 17 years, I haven't managed to find a picture of it.

[oldstuff]

Originally Posted by HossC

I found this matchbook on eBay a few nights ago.


eBay

The Burl Room on Hollywood Boulevard and Burls Restaurant No 2 on W Pico Boulevard both appear in the 1956 CD (below). The 1960 CD has The Burl Room and Burls Restaurant on Hollywood Boulevard (I couldn't see the W Pico location, but the later CDs don't seem to list that area). Burls Restaurant continues to appear at 4483 Hollywood Boulevard throughout the 1960s, but is listed as Burls Coffee Shop in 1973. The 1987 CD lists the Chinese Garden Cafe at 4483 Hollywood Boulevard.


LAPL

Despite the Hollywood Boulevard restaurant existing for at least 17 years, I haven't managed to find a picture of it.

Here's some Noir for you ....Rosemary LaBianca, prior to her marriage, was a waitress at the Burl Room. Yes, THAT Rosemary LaBianca. This tidbit is mentioned in the LAPD Homicide report.