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HossC · #**19841** Posted **Feb 28, 2014, 2:45 PM**

A few days ago, I came across the picture below while I was looking for something else. The location wasn't named (other than the description "unidentified building within the Central Manufacturing District"), and I didn't instantly recognize it, but I thought that there were enough clues to work with.

USC Digital Library

I've flipped this close-up of the flags to show the text the right way around. It also shows the corner detailing.

Detail of picture above.

Zooming in on the background buildings in the center, we can see a cafeteria next to the parked cars, and a familiar domed beuilding behind.

Detail of picture above.

Here's a different view of the domed building in a picture originally posted by Flyingwedge in post #11058. The location is the Los Angeles Union Stock Yards at 4500 Downey Road, which means that the foreground building in the first picture is the Produce Terminal of the Central Manufacturing District (which explains the "CMD Termi..." on the flags). Flyingwedge's post also includes pictures of a couple of other Stock Yard buildings and e_r's original picture of the domed building during construction.

LAPL/Flyingwedge

On this 1948 aerial, the Stock Yards can be seen above Exchange Avenue, while the Produce Terminal and assorted box cars can be seen below it.

Historic Aerials

Another USC shot shows the view looking back towards where the first was taken from.

USC Digital Library

The picture below is one of a set of three showing the road side of the Produce Terminal in 1929. USC also has a similar set taken at the same location in 1932. The name on the building is the Blue Diamond Produce Co. The address on the trucks is 4219 No. Produce Plaza, Produce Terminal, Central Mfg. Dist.

USC Digital Library

After a bit of searching, I found some pictures taken around the time the buildings were demolished in the mid-80s. This must be the eastern end of the main building as the roofline is different.

Flickr user emd

Not long to go ...

Flickr user emd

... and gone.

Flickr user emd

Here's a current Google aerial view. I've overlaid the outlines of some of the Stock Yard and Produce Terminal buildings.

Google Maps

When I applied the overlay, I noticed that the building I've marked "X" lines up perfectly with the outline. Switching to Streetview, it looks like we've got a survivor.

GSV

A close-up of some of the details which prove that it was part of the original complex.

GSV

GaylordWilshire · #**19842** Posted **Feb 28, 2014, 8:06 PM**

The other Rochester house

Not this one...

USCDL

...but rather this one:

Wikimedia

I could find no vintage shots of the house.... While widely attributed to the great Paul R. Williams, the building permit doesn't have his name on it. It still stands on West 37 Street east of Cimarron, a cul-de-sac now called Rochester Place.

GSV

It's now some sort of hotel.

Rochester driving the gang in the recently discussed Mad Mad Mad Mad World....

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HossC · #**19843** Posted **Feb 28, 2014, 8:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

GSV

It's now some sort of hotel.

From homes.mitula.com:

Description from the owner

We offer you a rich history, an intoxicating experience of the decadence of 'Old Hollywood' and the extravagant luxury of Louis XVI furnishings along with superlative hospitality. We invite you into Eddie 'Rochester' Anderson's colossal legacy.

Our majestic Victorian, Southern mansion was originally owned by the late Eddie "Rochester" Anderson, an American comedian and actor who appeared in over sixty motion pictures. His most famous role was Rochester van Jones, known simply as "Rochester" the valet of Jack Benny on his T.V. show The Jack Benny Program. His career earned him a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

Anderson was a great connoisseur. From training his winning race horses to creating lucrative real estate investments, he had the Midas touch for transforming business ventures into unprecedented successes.

Today, the Rochester is owned and managed by his son Eddie "Rochester" Anderson Jr., who continues to follow in his father's monumental footsteps and to welcome people from all over the world with true hospitality.

The Rochester will stop you in your tracks with its classical façade. Its seven elegantly furnished well-lit bedrooms and master suites will glow even in the wee hours of the night. Antique chandeliers, an indoor fireplace and a bar decorate the newly refurbished living room with a Rococo charm.

Whether you're looking for a vacation for you while you tour our beautiful city or for corporate lodgings, or perhaps even for the perfect place to celebrate the holidays or your special occasions, the Rochester's unique facilities can accommodate you. We boast an excellent location for photo shoots, music videos and also for bringing your films to life.

And it can all be yours from only $1500 (or $1000 depending where you look) per night - plus a damage deposit of $2,000!

GaylordWilshire · #**19844** Posted **Feb 28, 2014, 8:54 PM**

Thanks for the extra info, Hoss--Victorian? Southern? Well, maybe on the inside? Interesting that the house is still in the family.

Flyingwedge · #**19845** Posted **Feb 28, 2014, 9:22 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC

Here's a current Google aerial view. I've overlaid the outlines of some of the Stock Yard and Produce Terminal buildings.

Google Maps

When I applied the overlay, I noticed that the building I've marked "X" lines up perfectly with the outline. Switching to Streetview, it looks like we've got a survivor.

GSV

Great post! I like the overlay a lot, and good eye spotting that surviving CMD building.

Here's an aerial of a special event at the stock yards dated November 11, 1930, that shows the surviving CMD across from the hexagon building:

USC Digital Library -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si.../91467/rec/121

A closer view of the hexagon building from a December 1929 photo:

USC Digital Library -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...5/id/996/rec/1

The Union Stock Yards was also the site of a monument to the 1847 Battle of La Mesa as seen in this 1927 photo:

USC Digital Library -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/73927/rec/4

Right boulder; Robert Field Stockton was a gaping a**hole:

Do these plaques survive somewhere today?

P.S. Thanks Joe Gillis for the Mercury statue ID!

CityBoyDoug · #**19846** Posted **Mar 1, 2014, 12:11 AM**

Philip Lovetti suicide...1953..age 28, who committed suicide after shooting father-in-law...rather awkward to say the least.

More information on this scene at link. 16 more photos of the murder suicide. A complicated case of in-laws feudin' and fussin'.

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...ll44/id/113820

Examiner collection

Albany NY · #**19847** Posted **Mar 1, 2014, 12:58 AM**

[QUOTE=CityBoyDoug;6474032]Philip Lovetti suicide...1953..age 28, who committed suicide after shooting father-in-law...rather awkward to say the least.

More information on this scene at link. 16 more photos of the murder suicide. A complicated case of in-laws feuding and fussin'.

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...ll44/id/113820

OK, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry!

Seriously, though, the link takes you to some very powerful images. The killer's wife was a beautiful bride....in happier times. Amazing that the police let her trample through the crime scene. Sad, but fascinating. Thanks for posting, CityBoyDoug.

CityBoyDoug · #**19848** Posted **Mar 1, 2014, 2:14 AM**

Albany NY;6474103....CityBoyDoug;6474032

That's a nice imported handmade carpet...ruined. Lovely nick-nacks around the room and even sitting on the TV. Crochet Armchair Doilies ....what more could you want?

Here is the scene just outside the living room with the broken glass door. That's the father in-law under the blanket.

Examiner

Martin Pal · #**19849** Posted **Mar 1, 2014, 4:57 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Gillis

Theres a similar statue on the roof of a massive Greenhouse where I grew up

You grew up in a greenhouse?

Martin Pal · #**19850** Posted **Mar 1, 2014, 5:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I found this on ebay

Thanks, e_r! Love your additions, especially the one above because the globe tower's usually a photo focal point, so it's seen here in a different light! Almost hiding, in fact.

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

note the 'Barber of Seville'.

Reminds me of an Our Gang short with Alfalfa!

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Originally Posted by Seventh & Spring

I believe these are glass blocks. In this case, they appear to be glass block "banks", possibly given out for people to collect donations for the war effort. The chevron design on the labels (which I first thought might be a company logo) may be there to indicate "this side down", or the direction to insert the coins/cash. Similar glass block was used as a facade for the outside of the counter she is posing on. It's visible in other photos of the event.

lower left: icircular.wordpress.com / lower right: ebay

Interesting, Seventh & Spring, and welcome to the thread!

Trucker · #**19851** Posted **Mar 1, 2014, 6:09 AM**

Kind of interesting that with many of these murder/suicides they list the address allowing a Google view...makes you wonder if the current owners are aware of the mayhem that occurred in their houses.
Cheers,Pat

GaylordWilshire · #**19852** Posted **Mar 1, 2014, 9:13 AM**

LAT Dec 19, 1953

GSV

3745 Temple City Blvd, Rosemead, today, at left, with a surviving bungalow.

HossC · #**19853** Posted **Mar 1, 2014, 6:19 PM**

Flyingwedge, that was a wonderful aerial of the stock yards that you posted yesterday. It really gives an idea of how isolated the area was in the '20s and '30s. USC seems to have a few unidentified pictures of small factories from this era that it attributes to the Central Manufacturing District, and none of them appear to have any close neighbors.

While we're in the area, here's a 1932 picture of the main stock yard building which I don't think we've seen before.

USC Digital Library

I also found a 1957 aerial which just catches part of the stock yards and the surviving Produce Terminal building at the far left. In the center of the picture is the Central Manufacturing District Terminal - Flyingwedge covered the CMDT very comprehensively just over a year ago in post #11234.

USC Digital Library

USC has the picture below tagged as "Unidentified building in the Central Manufacturing District". It's obviously the back of the CMDT, but there's no indication of the date. I'll email them with the identification.

USC Digital Library

The large white building in the lower left corner of the 1957 aerial is the Federal Cold Storage building. Its distinctive roof design can be seen in the background of the Produce Terminal demolition photos that I posted yesterday. Here it is in 1932.

USC Digital Library

And it's still there today.

GSV

Trucker · #**19854** Posted **Mar 1, 2014, 9:22 PM**

Wilmington Transfer and Storage in the early 20's

Personal col.

..and today

Google S.V.

Cheers,Pat

GaylordWilshire · #**19855** Posted **Mar 1, 2014, 9:32 PM**

LAT Aug 21, 1927

Wonder what the Eiffel-Towerish thing in the center might have been meant to be? Some sort of clocktower as there was at the Terminal Market? (See http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=14963.)

latimes.com Nov 28, 1927

LAT Nov 30, 1927

There are several LAT articles through the fall of 1927 about the Produce Terminal, several noting that construction was being rushed.

ethereal_reality · #**19856** Posted **Mar 1, 2014, 10:24 PM**

Excellent overlay of the Stockyards and Central Manufacturing District/Produce Market HossC.

I am in awe that you located this lone survivor.

GSV

posted by flyingwedge

I have to say I love love love this building. Has anyone come across a photograph of the interior?
What is it anyway...a show barn, like at state fairs?
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I came across this postcard a few weeks ago.

ebay

I located it just this afternoon.

GSV

This stretch of Oxford Avenue between Venice Blvd. and Washington Blvd. has some pretty impressive houses from the 1910s/1920s.

GSV

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ethereal_reality · #**19857** Posted **Mar 1, 2014, 10:27 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trucker

Wilmington Transfer and Storage in the early 20's

Personal col.

..and today

Google S.V.

Cheers,Pat

Good find Trucker! Where's the old storage building located? -in the Wilmington area?

...also that's another truck with non-pneumatic solid rubber wheels. (see what i learned this week.

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ethereal_reality · #**19858** Posted **Mar 1, 2014, 10:45 PM**

ebay

Ivar & Hollywood Blvd. today (same building)

GSV

GaylordWilshire · #**19859** Posted **Mar 1, 2014, 10:54 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC

The large white building in the lower left corner of the 1957 aerial is the Federal Cold Storage building. Its distinctive roof design can be seen in the background of the Produce Terminal demolition photos that I posted yesterday. Here it is in 1932.

USC Digital Library

And it's still there today.

GSV

Also looked into the Federal Cold Storage building, wondering if what appears to be a stylized "S" on the corners meant that it originally housed another firm. Seems it might stand for the Standard Ice Company, a predecessor that was absorbed by Federal...(?)

LAT Feb 28, 1926

LAT Aug 19, 1927

ethereal_reality · #**19860** Posted **Mar 1, 2014, 11:16 PM**

A great vintage matchbook with a classic 'girlie' motif from the 1940s.

ebay

I almost fell out of my chair when I discovered it's still there! -and looking like it just stepped out of the 1940s.

GSV

I'm going to try and dig up an interior photograph.
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