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Old Posted Dec 10, 2017, 5:43 PM
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^^That IS an unfortunate view.
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I guess the bollards are to prevent truck bombs? Sadly we have to worry about such things in this age.
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Old Posted Dec 10, 2017, 7:28 PM
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Old Posted Dec 10, 2017, 7:37 PM
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^^That IS an unfortunate view.
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Old Posted Dec 10, 2017, 7:42 PM
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I guess the bollards are to prevent truck bombs? Sadly we have to worry about such things in this age.
In this age?! They’ve been around the Pyramid, Federal Reserve Bank, and other buildings in the City, across the nation, and around the world since at least 9/11, with some since the 4/95 Murrah Federal Building bombing. 22 years now...hello...!!
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In this age?! They’ve been around the Pyramid, Federal Reserve Bank, and other buildings in the City, across the nation, and around the world since at least 9/11, with some since the 4/95 Murrah Federal Building bombing. 22 years now...hello...!!
Yeah, they've been around but WAY more prevalent now than ever, all around the world.

I walked by AT&T park the other day (which NEVER had them) and they're installed all around the stadium and Wille Mays Plaza now, along with big bulky planter boxes as an additional (and somewhat decorative) barrier. It's a new world now.
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It can prevent any sort of errant or drunken behavior, not necessarily terrorism. Moving vehicles are always dangerous to people and barriers should exist all over the city to protect pedestrians, bikes, and public squares.
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Old Posted Dec 10, 2017, 11:06 PM
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Because of what he said--it looks like a giant bra.
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Old Posted Dec 10, 2017, 11:09 PM
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In this age?! They’ve been around the Pyramid, Federal Reserve Bank, and other buildings in the City, across the nation, and around the world since at least 9/11, with some since the 4/95 Murrah Federal Building bombing. 22 years now...hello...!!
In my life, "since 9/11" is "this age". I suppose for a Millennial it may be different. But I recall the age before metal detectors, bomb barriers and when just about all federal buildings including the Capitol were open to the public without search or any form of inhibition.

The Oklahoma City bombing was a major shock to most people in the US. It wasn't something either the establishment or the rest of us would have expected. Things may have started to change then, but it was gradual.

And you still don't find bollards on most sidewalks in San Francisco in front of commercial buildings--government, yes, but not commercial. I assume in this case it's recognition that this building is so prominent on the skyline and the city's tallest by far--that, along with that big glass lobby that makes it look like it's waiting for a truck to drive right into it, makes it a tempting target. I just wish the SFPD would wake up and start behaving more like the NYPD and taking the potential for terrorism seriously which I see little evidence they do.

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It can prevent any sort of errant or drunken behavior, not necessarily terrorism. Moving vehicles are always dangerous to people and barriers should exist all over the city to protect pedestrians, bikes, and public squares.
Perhaps. But they aren't though they ARE here. Which makes this something different, hence why I commented.

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Yeah, they've been around but WAY more prevalent now than ever, all around the world.

I walked by AT&T park the other day (which NEVER had them) and they're installed all around the stadium and Wille Mays Plaza now, along with big bulky planter boxes as an additional (and somewhat decorative) barrier. It's a new world now.
my take was that the new planters were to prevent drive-truck-along-crowded-sidewalk attacks, which *are* a new thing, not bombs. fimiak also makes good point
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Old Posted Dec 11, 2017, 6:09 AM
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my take was that the new planters were to prevent drive-truck-along-crowded-sidewalk attacks, which *are* a new thing, not bombs. fimiak also makes good point
Totally agree, I also assumed the AT&T installations were in response to the truck attacks which have unfortunately become commonplace.

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Because of what he said--it looks like a giant bra.
if only it weren't so white and lacy
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Because of what he said--it looks like a giant bra.
Sorry guys, I totally missed the first bra comment!
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It can prevent any sort of errant or drunken behavior, not necessarily terrorism. Moving vehicles are always dangerous to people and barriers should exist all over the city to protect pedestrians, bikes, and public squares.
So your saying they placed barriers there to protect the building from my wife's driving?
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So your saying they placed barriers there to protect the building from my wife's driving?
And Uber (or does your wife drive for them?)
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Old Posted Dec 12, 2017, 11:43 AM
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And Uber (or does your wife drive for them?)
Every time I change the oil on her truck I fear discovering a corpse under there somewhere.
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I get the feeling that the station could have a kind of under-a-bridge effect where it becomes a homeless/derelict hangout. This happens a lot with both train stations with and large covered streets. Kind of a double whammy.
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I get the feeling that the station could have a kind of under-a-bridge effect where it becomes a homeless/derelict hangout. This happens a lot with both train stations with and large covered streets. Kind of a double whammy.
That's exactly what it was before.
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