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Old Posted May 23, 2013, 2:56 PM
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Sesquicentennial in the Capital

New website: http://www.ottawa2017.ca/

key quote: "IT’S GOING TO BE SESQUI-SENSATIONAL!"

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https://twitter.com/JonathanWilling/...533056/photo/1
I like the deconstructed Centennial hexagon, but it looks a little busy to me.

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New website: http://www.ottawa2017.ca/

key quote: "IT’S GOING TO BE SESQUI-SENSATIONAL!"

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https://twitter.com/JonathanWilling/...533056/photo/1
I like the deconstructed Centennial hexagon, but it looks a little busy to me.
Of course it's the City who took initiative and not the NCC or the Feds.
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Something tells me that the celebrations for 2017 will pale compared to 1967. Of course, how can they not? Where is the vision for optimism at the federal level? None? There was a 'can do' attitude in the early and mid 1960s that no longer exists. Somehow, the Montreal Metro and the autoroutes got opened on time in preparation for Expo 67. Now, that was a celebration.
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Something tells me that the celebrations for 2017 will pale compared to 1967. Of course, how can they not? Where is the vision for optimism at the federal level? None? There was a 'can do' attitude in the early and mid 1960s that no longer exists. Somehow, the Montreal Metro and the autoroutes got opened on time in preparation for Expo 67. Now, that was a celebration.
Yes I concur, a lack of cooperation/leadership between the four active levels of government in play here in conjunction with the general lackadaisical sentiment and attitude towards 2017 and a great federalist nation appears to be really limiting the historic event and celebration.
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Here's a surprise; apparently Gatineau worked with Ottawa on this one. BTW, French report only.

http://www.radio-canada.ca/regions/o...gatineau.shtml
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Something tells me that the celebrations for 2017 will pale compared to 1967. Of course, how can they not? Where is the vision for optimism at the federal level? None? There was a 'can do' attitude in the early and mid 1960s that no longer exists. Somehow, the Montreal Metro and the autoroutes got opened on time in preparation for Expo 67. Now, that was a celebration.
There was also a "spend now and pay later" attitude. We're still paying. That mentality is thanks to BOTH Cons and Libs gov'ts.
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There was also a "spend now and pay later" attitude. We're still paying. That mentality is thanks to BOTH Cons and Libs gov'ts.
Deficit spending did not become a problem until the mid 1970s and later.
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Deficit spending did not become a problem until the mid 1970s and later.
Deficit spending started well into the 60's.....
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We're in deficit today and have nothing to show for it.

On a different note, how is it that the original Montreal Metro back in 1966/1967, with 26 elaborate stations on 3 lines for 25 kilometers, took less time to build than the Ottawa Confederation line with 13 stations on 12.5 kilometers, with most of the rights-of-way already built?

That rapid transit line would be pretty darn useful for Canada Day 2017.
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Deficit spending started well into the 60's.....
Deficits were occasional and small through the sixties, constant and growing from 1970 on.
http://fin.gc.ca/budget00/bp/bpch3_1-eng.asp
(Scroll down 2-3 pages to chart 3.1)
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We're in deficit today and have nothing to show for it.

On a different note, how is it that the original Montreal Metro back in 1966/1967, with 26 elaborate stations on 3 lines for 25 kilometers, took less time to build than the Ottawa Confederation line with 13 stations on 12.5 kilometers, with most of the rights-of-way already built?

That rapid transit line would be pretty darn useful for Canada Day 2017.
That's always bugged me about the construction schedule. According to the schedule all the underground stations downtown are to be completed by May 2017. (Cutting it close for Canada Day since system testing is required) So why are some above ground stations that already have the ROW there going to take longer? In cases where alignment isn't an issue can't they reuse parts of the existing Transitway stations? You'd think 4 years is enough time.

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That's always bugged me about the construction schedule. According to the schedule all the underground stations downtown are to be completed by May 2017. (Cutting it close for Canada Day since system testing is required) So why are some above ground stations that already have the ROW there going to take longer? In cases where alignment isn't an issue can't they reuse parts of the existing Transitway stations? You'd think 4 years is enough time.
Partly because we have to wait for the Queensway widening to be over. It's all about "minimum disruption", which isn't a bad thing, but I think there taking it a bit too far.
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Everything tends to get dragged out these days. The planning process takes so long. Somehow, I believe it has as much to do with delays in spending money. Always spend later rather than sooner. Why couldn't the Queensway widening been started earlier? We have known that it has had to be done for quite some time.

You notice how fast things took place when the infrastructure program was going. Now that it is finished, everything has returned to a crawl. A perfect example is the Hunt Club interchange. If there was a firm deadline, it would have been completed long ago. Meanwhile, we have a stretch of road built during the infrastructure program that nobody can use. Same with the Armstrong-Strandherd Bridge. If the opening of LRT was dependent on it, it would have been finished. The worst example is the Wakefield railway line. If that line was in freight service, it would have been fixed in days. Because it involves a tourist train and the government is paying for it, it is taking years.

I really expect the main reason for not completing the Confederation Line in time for 2017 is that they didn't want to test the capacity of the system early on. It probably could not handle the crowds for Canada Day 2017 which would have given the city one big black eye and the credibility of the Confederation Line would be put into question. They probably would have also had to purchase surplus trains that they didn't want to invest in early on. Just like not investing in a Confederation Square station, and building a minimal amount of track in Phase 1, everything was designed to keep Phase 1 costs to a minimum.

I still recall the pleas from the city of Edmonton, to spread out commuting times because they didn't buy enough trains when Phase 2 opened a few years ago. Something tells me we will see crush loads on the Confederation Line as well soon after opening.

Budgets are more important than sound planning.
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Everything tends to get dragged out these days. The planning process takes so long. Somehow, I believe it has as much to do with delays in spending money. Always spend later rather than sooner. Why couldn't the Queensway widening been started earlier? We have known that it has had to be done for quite some time.

You notice how fast things took place when the infrastructure program was going. Now that it is finished, everything has returned to a crawl. A perfect example is the Hunt Club interchange. If there was a firm deadline, it would have been completed long ago. Meanwhile, we have a stretch of road built during the infrastructure program that nobody can use. Same with the Armstrong-Strandherd Bridge. If the opening of LRT was dependent on it, it would have been finished. The worst example is the Wakefield railway line. If that line was in freight service, it would have been fixed in days. Because it involves a tourist train and the government is paying for it, it is taking years.

I really expect the main reason for not completing the Confederation Line in time for 2017 is that they didn't want to test the capacity of the system early on. It probably could not handle the crowds for Canada Day 2017 which would have given the city one big black eye and the credibility of the Confederation Line would be put into question. They probably would have also had to purchase surplus trains that they didn't want to invest in early on. Just like not investing in a Confederation Square station, and building a minimal amount of track in Phase 1, everything was designed to keep Phase 1 costs to a minimum.

I still recall the pleas from the city of Edmonton, to spread out commuting times because they didn't buy enough trains when Phase 2 opened a few years ago. Something tells me we will see crush loads on the Confederation Line as well soon after opening.

Budgets are more important than sound planning.
Sounds spot on.
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Something tells me that the celebrations for 2017 will pale compared to 1967. Of course, how can they not? Where is the vision for optimism at the federal level? None? There was a 'can do' attitude in the early and mid 1960s that no longer exists. Somehow, the Montreal Metro and the autoroutes got opened on time in preparation for Expo 67. Now, that was a celebration.
Mind you, some of those autoroutes now have a bad habit of falling down on you...
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There was some chatter in the Confederation Line thread relating to the 2017 celebrations, so I figured I'd cross-link that post on this thread - you can find it here.

Consequently, I checked out the Ottawa 2017 website, and they've placed a video on their homepage indicating that the Video Game Awards are coming to Ottawa in 2017, and they'll be projecting video games on buildings around the city - here's the video:



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The Canadian Videogame Awards will be coming to Ottawa in 2017 with a Gala Awards Ceremony and a week-long outdoor Videogame Championship. Just one of many exciting events to be here for Canada’s big year!
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It would be easy to look at Guy Laflamme’s official job title – head of Ottawa’s 2017 celebrations – and conclude he is simply a glorified party planner.

But the man who is charge of overseeing Canada’s 150th birthday bash in the capital doesn’t see it that way at all. In fact, he says, he’s far more of a businessman than a bureaucrat.

“This is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for Ottawa,” says Mr. Laflamme. “The city and the province can own 2017. My job is to create additional wealth for the city.”

The Ottawa native who spent years planning major events such as Winterlude and the city’s annual Canada Day celebrations for the NCC certainly appears to have no shortage of energy or enthusiasm for his latest task, which is arguably the most important of his career.

In six months on the job, Mr. Laflamme says, he and his team have received nearly 800 submissions from the public, and have incorporated about half of them into their 2017 plan. He’s met with hundreds of local business leaders, politicians and community groups to present his vision for the city’s celebrations.

So far, he says, they like what they see.

“The response has been unanimously positive,” he says. “People’s reaction was, ‘Oh my God, this is an amazing program.’ It’s clear that we’re heading on the right path. Rest assured this is not a face-painting, arts and craft program.”

Mr. Laflamme’s vision involves a slate of events that will run from January to December, with a special emphasis on the big day – July 1, 2017. Mayor Jim Watson has already publicly declared his intent to lure a “hat trick” of major events to the city, including the Juno Awards, the Grey Cup and an outdoor NHL game between the Senators and Montreal Canadiens.

Mr. Laflamme says those plans are on track, but they are far from the only “blockbuster elements” of his proposal. He’s still cagey about details, but insists they will be well worth the wait when they are revealed.

“We have events that will get people to definitely change their perception about Ottawa,” he says. “When I say bold, I mean bold.”

One of Mr. Laflamme’s first tasks was putting together a comprehensive 120-page business plan for the 2017 celebrations. The economic impact of the year-long program of events will be immense, he says before offering a raft of numbers to prove it.

The mayor’s objective of drawing 1.75 million more visitors than average to Ottawa in 2017, for a target of nearly nine million, is more than achievable, he says. With that many tourists in town, he expects a bump in the city’s average nightly hotel occupancy rate from the current 67 per cent to 75 per cent.

Other figures are just as eye-popping. He forecasts the events will create 4,000 jobs in Ottawa and generate consumer spending of more than $350 million, for an overall impact on the city’s GDP in excess of $300 million.

“Those are not pie-in-the-sky numbers,” he says flatly, adding he’s paying special attention to creating events that leave an economic legacy that continues well past 2017.

“It’s really based on best practices in the business world. They are, I think, very conservative numbers. What I’m proposing will be a huge catalyst for our tourism industry.”

In addition to his past roles as a marketing and communications co-ordinator at the NCC and the Casino du Lac-Leamy, Mr. Laflamme, 54, has taught at the University of Ottawa’s Telfer School of Management since the early ’90s.

He says that experience proved invaluable when crafting the business plan for 2017.

“I’m basically applying what I’ve been teaching for the last 25 years and (we’ll) see if this all works out,” he says. “It’s basically like starting a new business.”

He praises Mr. Watson’s foresight in creating a task force two years ago that includes the likes of Senators president Cyril Leeder and Shaw Centre CEO Pat Kelly. The committee has already laid the groundwork for the celebrations, putting Ottawa “way ahead of any other city in the country,” he says. “This is not about spending money. This is about investing money.”

He’s also partnering with organizations such as Invest Ottawa to ensure local enterprises are on board and putting their ideas to work to help create unique events.

“We want to engage all levels of the business community,” he says. “This is not just about creating fireworks and having big splashy arts and culture events. It’s also an opportunity to showcase the best of Ottawa technology.”

Mr. Laflamme, who says he’s read every major report on the country’s previous major celebrations, including Canada’s Centennial in 1967 and Quebec City’s 400th birthday in 2008, says such events can have a profoundly positive effect on the way a community sees itself.

“Ottawa 2017 can also be a transformative year in terms of the identity of the city, the personality of the city, the perception of the city of Ottawa,” he says.

He knows the city has been careful to keep its plans under wraps so far, but he says that will change in the next couple of months.

“I’m pushing the machine to accelerate the process,” says Mr. Laflamme, adding he regularly puts in 12-hour days. “Rest assured that we’re not dragging our feet.”

After living most of his life in the capital, Mr. Laflamme will say his goodbyes when the party is over. Once 2017 is in the books, he is retiring to the Magdalen Islands in the Gulf of St. Lawrence.

But until then, it’s full speed ahead.

“I want to leave with a bang,” he says. “This is not a job for me. This is a mission.”
http://www.obj.ca/Local/Tourism/2014...s-2017%0D%0A/1
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There was some chatter in the Confederation Line thread relating to the 2017 celebrations, so I figured I'd cross-link that post on this thread - you can find it here.

Consequently, I checked out the Ottawa 2017 website, and they've placed a video on their homepage indicating that the Video Game Awards are coming to Ottawa in 2017, and they'll be projecting video games on buildings around the city - here's the video:

Wow! We might actually have a use for our blank walls!

That said, my biggest fear for Canada's 150th is Ottawa's lack of hotel rooms. People had enough trouble finding rooms when William and Kate visited a few year's back, and since then, if you weigh downtown hotels u/c or proposed (ALT, Germain, Hyatt, maybe Re) with downtown hotels taking off the market (Quality Inn, Holiday Inn, Minto, National is in limbo and I think I`m missing a few), our stock has gone down significantly.

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