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Old Posted Oct 14, 2020, 2:57 AM
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diamondpark, thanks as always for putting these lists together. Question - do your numbers include walkers?
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diamondpark, thanks as always for putting these lists together. Question - do your numbers include walkers?
Youre welcome, no it doesnt include walking...here is that number for the larger MSAs.

MSAs, Workers that Walked, 2019
559,922 New York
162,101 Los Angeles
148,126 Boston
143,415 Chicago
114,287 San Francisco
111,145 Washington DC
106,344 Philadelphia
82,142 Seattle
51,928 Miami
49,593 San Diego
45,254 Minneapolis
44,900 Portland
44,279 Dallas
42,893 Houston
35,440 Phoenix
37,524 Atlanta
26,539 Detroit
24,488 Riverside
24,094 Tampa

5.89% New York
5.59% Boston
4.67% San Francisco
3.90% Seattle
3.54% Portland
3.51% Philadelphia
3.28% Washington DC
3.02% Chicago
2.93% San Diego
2.48% Los Angeles
2.29% Minneapolis
1.67% Miami
1.61% Tampa
1.27% Detroit
1.26% Dallas
1.24% Houston
1,20% Riverside
1.14% Atlanta
0.77% Phoenix
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Yeah, here's a map someone made on the many different routes for the jitneys. Many of these routes have less than 1-minute headways during rush hour. I wouldn't be surprised if each region on the map carries around 100,000 commuters or more (at least the Jersey side). I too wonder if these are even counted.


EDIT: According to this article just the two easternmost Brooklyn and Queens routes transport 120,000 commuter a day with about 850 vans. There is no corresponding passenger number for the Jersey routes, but there are whopping 6,500 registered vans there according to wiki.


Interesting note: the routes west of the Hudson river are usually called jitneys, and east of the Hudson are called dollar vans.

Oh, this is cool. And you see the jitney/dollar van routes roughly correspond with immigration patterns. The East Brooklyn routes are West Indian, the Queens routes are Chinese/SE Asian, and the Jersey routes are South American/Cuban. The SE Queens and NE Bronx routes are heavily Jamaican. The ridership, in 2020, is in many cases quite different, but these routes were originally established to serve specific immigrant communities.

The Orthodox/Hasidic community also has a large network of private buses running regular routes, that are open to the public, but gender segregated, with women in the back of the bus. In fact when you see Hasidics on public MTA buses, you see the women/children go to back of the bus, and men stay up front.

I wonder, too, how they count privatized transport not open to the public, like the Google buses in the Bay Area, or the Goldman Sachs ferries between Manhattan and Jersey.
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^ yeah, i have seen something similar in the past, but i always wondered if there was a modern map like that. and as you say, its probably well under-represented. i mean think of all those chinese buses, regular shopping trip busses and the like too. anyway, great find!
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Largest MSAs by % of Commuters That Drive Alone to Workplace
85.9% St Louis
84.6% Birmingham
84.5% Memphis
83.9% Oklahoma City
83.6% Kansas City
82.3% Detroit
82.2% Grand Rapids
82.0% Buffalo
82.0% Hartford
81.7% Cincinnati
81.5% Columbus
81.5% Indianapolis
81.4% Louisville
81.3% Virginia Beach
80.9% Rochester
80.7% Cleveland
80.7% Houston
80.6% Milwaukee
80.6% Providence
80.4% Richmond
80.3% Dallas
80.0% Jacksonville
79.5% Raleigh
79.5% Riverside
78.9% Charlotte
78.8% Nashville
78.4% San Antonio
78.1% Las Vegas
77.6% Tampa
77.4% Orlando
77.2% Minneapolis
77.1% Miami
77.0% Salt Lake City
76.8% New Orleans
76.7% Baltimore
76.4% Tucson
76.2% Atlanta
76.2% Sacramento
75.7% San Diego
75.3% Phoenix
74.8% Pittsburgh
74.7% Los Angeles
74.6% San Jose
74.5% Austin
74.0% Denver
71.4% Philadelphia
69.6% Portland
69.4% Chicago
66.7% Seattle
65.9% Boston
65.5% Washington DC
56.4% San Francisco
49.1% New York

Source: data.census.gov
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