NEW YORK | Tower Fifth | 1,556 FT | 96 FLOORS

[JMKeynes]

Originally Posted by Duck From NY

I didn't even mention Chicago. I can understand deleting my post so as to save Crawford some embarrassment, though.



Is this built on top of an existing building?

No. The building on the lower right hand corner is a landmarked structure on Madison. It just appears to be on top of that.

[Duck From NY]

Originally Posted by NYguy

It will... serve as an observation tower, which explains the top.

Speaking of observation decks: I have a friend visiting from overseas and I want to take him to the Top of the Rock at a time when there's enough sunlight to see the details of the buildings, but late enough in the day for the lights in the buildings to be turned on. My weather app says the sun sets around 8:15. Any help would be appreciated. I'm mostly wanting to know generally when the lights are turned on.

[BXFrank]

I don’t care how it looks, is a tall building that’s all I care about. It will get lost in the mix and add to the overall skyline

[Skyguy_7]

Originally Posted by Duck From NY

Speaking of observation decks: I have a friend visiting from overseas and I want to take him to the Top of the Rock at a time when there's enough sunlight to see the details of the buildings, but late enough in the day for the lights in the buildings to be turned on. My weather app says the sun sets around 8:15. Any help would be appreciated. I'm mostly wanting to know generally when the lights are turned on.

Be up there at 7:45 and stay for an hour. It’ll be a treat.

[chris08876]

^^^^

This. You'll get some of the best views, and also reflections from the towers. Really brings the facades to life of many towers based on the current lighting that occurs at dusk or near-dusk.

Also, bring some binoculars as well. They have ones that are coin operated, but I'd recommend a small pair.

Currently, the best deck IMO. Although 30 Hudson's Edge might be able to rival it once it opens.

[JMKeynes]

Originally Posted by NYguy

I think this tower is fine, though like I must have repeated a thousand times, I wish the top had more of a "tallest in New York" vibe going.

I'm not sure why I've seen so many posts about the residential towers though. This isn't and won't be among them. This is an office tower on an irregularly shaped lot that will "float" above it's neighbors. It will also serve as an observation tower, which explains the top.

I really hope (though I sincerely doubt) that the north and west facades have setbacks, and that it's not just a square shaft like the south and east facades. That would save this tower from being utterly absurd.

[Duck From NY]

Originally Posted by Skyguy_7

Be up there at 7:45 and stay for an hour. It’ll be a treat.

Originally Posted by chris08876

^^^^

This. You'll get some of the best views, and also reflections from the towers. Really brings the facades to life of many towers based on the current lighting that occurs at dusk or near-dusk.

Also, bring some binoculars as well. They have ones that are coin operated, but I'd recommend a small pair.

Currently, the best deck IMO. Although 30 Hudson's Edge might be able to rival it once it opens.

Roughly what time of day do the buildings turn their lights on this time of year?

[urbanview]

The tower has character, enough said. Plenty of dull boxes going up, you can keep them. I'd rather this than another 50 HY or Manhattan West.

[rgarri4]

No. This looks like 50 HY got punched in the teeth.

[chris08876]

Originally Posted by Duck From NY

Roughly what time of day do the buildings turn their lights on this time of year?

7 pm you will start to see some depending on the building. But this can be influenced by lighting and facade. 7:30 to 7:40 pm is when it will be start to increase in magnitude.

I'd recommend 8 pm on the dot for that perfect balance of light that will start to bring the street lights and window lights to life. From 8 pm to around 8:30, the change will come quickly, but you'll really see the city transition in a short period.

Hopefully its a clear, visible day when you go.

[Hudson11]

Citigroup Center on steroids. This will be another engineering marvel for NYC.

[Duck From NY]

Originally Posted by chris08876

7 pm you will start to see some depending on the building. But this can be influenced by lighting and facade. 7:30 to 7:40 pm is when it will be start to increase in magnitude.

I'd recommend 8 pm on the dot for that perfect balance of light that will start to bring the street lights and window lights to life. From 8 pm to around 8:30, the change will come quickly, but you'll really see the city transition in a short period.

Hopefully its a clear, visible day when you go.

Thanks man, much appreciated. TBH I'll probably get there at 6:30 before the prices go up and we'll just hang out there for two hours.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by rgarri4

No. This looks like 50 HY got punched in the teeth.

Originally Posted by Hudson11

Citigroup Center on steroids. This will be another engineering marvel for NYC.

At this point, I'm just interested in getting up there to that observation level and experiencing everything that would be up there. Won't get to do that at CPT.

Anyway, it's worth noting that they did give this a 2022 completion date though. That would place it ahead of 270 Park. I put the whole approvals process roughly a year behind 270, so I can't really see 2022 being a completion date, unless they are plan to begin work immediately following approvals.


https://www.adamson-associates.com/project/tower-fifth

Completion: 2022

Originally Posted by Duck From NY

Speaking of observation decks: I have a friend visiting from overseas and I want to take him to the Top of the Rock at a time when there's enough sunlight to see the details of the buildings, but late enough in the day for the lights in the buildings to be turned on. My weather app says the sun sets around 8:15. Any help would be appreciated. I'm mostly wanting to know generally when the lights are turned on.

If you have time, just get up there early enough to enjoy both the day and night views. I've done it a few times.

Originally Posted by Hudson11

Citigroup Center on steroids. This will be another engineering marvel for NYC.

That's what I always thought.

[jsbrook]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

* posts deleted *


i cleared out all of the chicago vs. new york stupidity.

carry on.

And some my sales stat links that were not chicago v. new york...but it doesn't matter. I kind like the base of this tower from the renders. The transition is a bit awkward. But the base is pretty interesting and cool.

[Duck From NY]

Originally Posted by NYguy

Thankfully, the plan to include a design approval in the midtown east rezoning was scrapped.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by Duck From NY

And your point would be?

[citybooster]

Originally Posted by NYguy

And your point would be?

They have a right to build it, but it still will be hideous. You can't hide 1,550ft of uninspired crap. Can't stop it, but save for the observation deck it's never going to resonate with most New Yorkers. Just because people criticize something doesn't make them automatically right.. but in this case they wouldn't be wrong either even if the floor plans are all the rage with the tech companies now. I'm generally pro development. I loathe the NIMBYism of groups that want to not build large towers on the Lower East Side for instance who think they can get that done while maximizing affordable housing and minimizing the market housing that would make having sizable affordable components, well...actually affordable to developers. And I'm actually with you on 270 Park questioning the advisability of 10,000 square ft outdoor plaza when public access might well work better even if partially or mainly indoors, and not as large overall. It's just there never seems to be any question that sometimes, corporate decision making doesn't get things right. What is built is out of our hands, but it doesn't mean we have to love it, even admire it. Maybe I'm wrong, but if built I just don't see New Yorkers bursting with love and pride for that building.

[Crawford]

Originally Posted by citybooster

They have a right to build it, but it still will be hideous. You can't hide 1,550ft of uninspired crap. Can't stop it, but save for the observation deck it's never going to resonate with most New Yorkers.

Your subjective opinion. I believe, given the developer and architect, it will be stunning, and a landmark.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by Crawford

Your subjective opinion. I believe, given the developer and architect, it will be stunning, and a landmark.

Which is why we can't have a panel of "people" deciding what's good and bad for the skyline of the city. Some seem to think that a panel would equate to bold and beautiful designs, when it would ironically be just the opposite. Any design panel would for sure stick to the conservative guidelines of the city, made up of the likes of Amanda Burden. Remember when she decided that the Tower Verre just didn't cut it at a greater height? Well, it was her decision to make. Developers have enough hoops to jump through just surviving the approvals process. We don't need nitpickers trying to put their hands in the design process as well. Whether we get good buildings or bad, it needs to be left in the hands of the architects and developers who are designing and building these towers. Not people who may be pushing to meet their own agendas.

[mrnyc]

Originally Posted by NYguy

Which is why we can't have a panel of "people" deciding what's good and bad for the skyline of the city. Some seem to think that a panel would equate to bold and beautiful designs, when it would ironically be just the opposite. Any design panel would for sure stick to the conservative guidelines of the city, made up of the likes of Amanda Burden. Remember when she decided that the Tower Verre just didn't cut it at a greater height? Well, it was her decision to make. Developers have enough hoops to jump through just surviving the approvals process. We don't need nitpickers trying to put their hands in the design process as well. Whether we get good buildings or bad, it needs to be left in the hands of the architects and developers who are designing and building these towers. Not people who may be pushing to meet their own agendas.